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Prime example of the EVE community right here. Thanks for validating everyone's generalizations.
You know the type of people who think it's funny to poop in a public restroom's urinal (or otherwise make a disgusting, unsanitary mess)? EVE is filled with them.
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How's it going.
I was a director in both Infinite Entropy and Error-404, the corporations I used as anecdotes for the "good" in EvE Online. I was the main push to work to be a wall between griefers and new players, and while my CEO--who is also a friend--was against it initially, he realized that it was probably the most fun he had had in high security space (especially when one of the griefer corporations decided to threaten to report me to the FBI for cyberterrorism because we found the greifers' alt corporation for making money and stopped that from happening). I have worked to foster a positive atmosphere in EvE Online, but to do that I have made people aware of the harsh realities of New Eden. As you have shown, you are one of the "ignorant masses" I mentioned in a previous post, where you don't do your own research and base everything off of MMO Champion et al., who make money by sensationalizing drama tenfold.
You are not the type of player we want, because you are ignorant, and happy in your ignorance. And were-as you make ad hominem attacks against the person rather than refuting the points, I will continue to espouse the truth of the game: we are not your typical MMO. We are a niche. If you don't like it ,feel free to stay in your theme park repeating the same old action day in and day out and think it's fun.
Again we'll done sir, sorry can't type more I'm at work.
This isn't Everquest, this is EVE and there are consequences. You can't name change you can't hide from other players in EVE you can be hunted down and you can be ganked repeatedly. Have you not heard of the stories of players who were griefed by corps making alt accounts and infiltrating and destroying them from the inside? The revenge stories are the best ones. You can't do that in Everquest, you have to hope that the GMs will ban someone for being a dick.
Just because we like to play a game where we arent stuck on rails being guided along to the end doesn't make us degenerates. Not everyone in EVE is a ganker, griefer or sociopath either. But I suppose it just makes it easier if you can lump us all into one category to justify your opinions.
Another thing to add is that just because someone has an illness. such as cancer, does not mean they automatically deserve some preferential treatment. If the guys who ganked the dude with cancer did it purely because he has cancer CCP has no way to prove that if it wasn't in the chat logs, so they can't really ban the guys for what appears to a normal ganking. They also did not continue to harass him in anyway after the incident so it's not like they were stalking him and constantly poking at him.
I am guessing you're the grumpy old man that chases kids away from his house's vicinity for doing something he dislikes regardless if right or wrong.
I started playing Eve Online in 2003 when it was not quite as sociopathic. Now it is a murderpit. The staff is altogether unhelpful - I have lost dozens of ships and even received emails from people after they have toasted my ship encouraging me to quit the game. I forwarded it to CCP-- the response - so what...
I would not suggest anyone to play Eve Online - its a greifing simulator. Literally thousands of players have beaten the game - so to speak- and there new quest is to inflict misery on others. It is an awful game and every time you find peace and quiet it is shattered by six assault frigates who have been waiting all day to kill you - no matter how deep you tuck yourself away in the a game - the sociopaths will seek you out.
So for what it is worth unless you also want to be a sociopath - a destroyer of things real and imagined - I would advise staying clear of this pit of despair - for while the music is pretty and the backdrops all false color images of the crab nebula are nice. The people will blow your ship up for no reason and laugh at you through the in game evemail system. They will haunt your corporations - they will war dec your pos. Just to watch it burn. I have never paid so much to be so upset with any game ever.
I don't care how many there are blindly defending a game, anything is better off without a toxic presence driving people off. That's exactly what EVE has. EVE has been able to enjoy a solitary existence, having no real competition for a long time now, all of that is about to change rather soon. There will be far more sandboxes on the market in the near future ( as well as online space sims), more than there have been in years. We'll see how well a company losing multiple millions does in such an environment, where they have actual competition.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Sez who? They are based out of Iceland, practically like having diplomatic immunity. There's actually nothing any government or court that can do anything to them outside of one in Iceland.
Sure, a government could ban their game from being played, but outside of that, not much else.
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"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
Apparently the OP played EVE online for TEN YEARS and didn't realise what the game is about.
Yes, there is something to consider here but I don't think it is what the OP is thinking about.
Link to the actual thread; https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4482341#post4482341
Gdemami -
Informing people about your thoughts and impressions is not a review, it's a blog.
SWG, Earth and Beyond, Anarchy Online, Entropia Universe (has space elements, had it for years, granted do not know how sim they are), etc,etc,etc... you are chanting to the same drum WoW-killer enthusiasts are but unlike WoW EVE hasn't sold its soul out and it is still growing despite your claims and despite all the blowhards who wash through the EVE-Online forums and on here demanding things which the game simply isn't. You want justice? Well this is the wild west and beyond the 6 months of training your character you can fight on par with anyone if you choose to but none of you do because heaven forbid freedom means the freedom for someone to be an asshole to someone else (like in real life) and you having the option of smacking some sense into them (unlike in real life) in return.
Chant all you want beyond this thread EVE-Online is like the only old guard MMO that will survive with a intact P2P system if it stays on this course which is a damn sight better than any of the other MMOs you gladly site as examples of better communities... which have a high turn-over and rarely get any of their veteran players back.
PS: I've stopped playing EVE more than 5 months ago and I do not foresee going back to it in the near future mostly because my love within the game (exploration) is set to get massively expanded in the coming years and I can wait it out because I am fully decked out as is and unlike your standard WoW, WoW/EQ-clone or themepark in denial my gear will never degrade in potency by just sitting in a hangar. Have fun in whatever games you will I'll be on teamspeak chatting with my old corp buddies... oh and don't let the warning sign on the door to EVE, the one with the 3 most important rules to playing the game embossed on it, hit you on the way out.
It takes a big man (or woman) to step back and admit something like that. Props to you
Everything creates huge amounts of negativity on the internet, that's what the internet is for: Negativity, porn and lolcats.
Except preventing them from selling their product.allowing people to use the produce with-in the borders of the nation. Oh, and if those people come to the United States--or many other countries that we have extradition treaties with--while warrants are out, they absolutely can act on that.
Which would be valid if the treatment was systemic and wasn't just within the confines of the game otherwise you'd have to work really hard to prove it was harassment and not just a one off remark or such (this talking in general not about this case in particular). I mean Christ actual cyberbullying in the US is still not seen as a crime in most states even with cases of suicides and you think they are gonna bother with harsh words said within a video game? As long as the behavior is limited to the game and the parties involved are not suffering anything other than pixel count degradation the sane developer wouldn't step in let alone a sovereign state which would be akin to bringing a nuclear recoilless rifle to a fist fight.
Holy crap, this thread is fucking diary of a whiner, if you guys can't handle a hardcore game. Don't play hardcore games. UO/EQ(pvp)/Darkfall, all of the fun hardcore type of pvp games that have come and gone have all had the same mentality with it's player base, it also depends who you surround yourself with.
If you can't handle being a hardcore gamer/real man, don't do it. Hardcore gamer as in difficulty of games played, not as in time alloted to playing games as some of the addicted gamer carebears like to throw out as a counter argument at times.
Beyond all of that toxic filth stated as above, if you buy tetris, play tetris, not pong. It seems like some of you expect a different game than you're buying, then flip out because you were mistaken of your own original thoughts probably based off of what other people said.
Why not try getting a game and having no expectations? I gurunnnnteee you will have a better time if you don't expect anything and experience things as if it was the first time you've seen the game.
Did you really just compare playing griefer style video games to being a "real man"? That's a bit scary. No offense, but I hope you are really young.
His profile says he is 14. Pretty much says it all doesn't it?
Ah ok, well then he's young so he deserves to be cut some slack. But it is still an amusing statement
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EVE doesn't really have anymore griefers or jackasses than any other game, and I really mean that.
I've made some of the most lasting and enjoyable gaming friendships in EVE Online, mostly because the game requires pilots to truly rely on each other much more so than other games. Especially if you PVP.
The reason that EVE seems to have more griefers and jackasses than other games, is that it's a sandbox, and CCP doesn't police what goes on inside of their sandbox unless it's a blatant exploit of the game mechanics. Otherwise, you're free to play or role play the capsuleer you want to be.
Other games will squash people like this in a heartbeat, but EVE lets people be people, and so the bad eggs like Shittani and Nerdrotica 1 stand out more.
It is pretty funny. Even some adults in the Eve community think this way unfortunately. Personally I find being socially acceptable to be manly.
Not really, There have been many instances in history with areas with little to non-existent laws and that stuff doesn't happen that often. Even the so called Wild West wasn't nearly as bad as movies and books make it out to be. In general areas that are more remote tend to have much nicer people in it. Part of that was because being a dick when people can and will do something about it tends to put a calming effect on things.
My dad's side of the family is from Elkins, WV in the US. Its a place where it is not uncommon for the nearest state troopers backup to be over an hour away. When Hurricane Sandy went through there were almost 150,000 people in that region with out power when the news was still flipping out on the 1000 in NY without power. You didn't hear about it because they made sure to take care of each other because frankly there isn't anyone else. It was not uncommon to see 20-30 miles worth of roads cleared and plowed not by the government but by the residents along that stretch.
Now compare that to a city, nobody needs anyone and there is normally far less kindness overall. A lot of that comes from the mob-mentality that in a large enough group someone else will take care of it so you don't have too, and better yet there is enough people that you won't be able to be blamed if no one does. The rest of it comes from the fact that laws and police give extra weight to its someone elses problem thinking.
It has been proven multiple times in psychological tests that if you put a barrier or limits up, people will be far more comfortable going right up to the limit of danger. If you take people to a high cliff overlook they will slowly move up and maybe gingerly peer over the edge, put a fence at the edge and in short time you will see someone do a near full run right up to the fence leaning over without a second thought to the potential danger from a week fence or the ground falling out below it. That is the problem a lot of people have with EVE, it does have rules but they are right at the edge of an unstable cliff. Too many, myself included once or twice, think that the fence protects against more then you running straight off the edge and it doesn't. There is a very large unsafe area before you get to the fence that you can still get hurt in.