Originally posted by BeansnBread You are not accurately comprehending what you are reading.
"in a Letter from the Producer at TGS, that the game had gained one million unique subscribers"
Am I reading this wrong?
"As of February 2014, 1.8 million players have created 6.7 million characters and logged over 400 million hours of play time."
1.8 million people logged more than 400 million hours as of February. 2 months ago. As of April they announced the have 2 million accounts created. I get that. But come on people. think for a minute. I'm sure in the past 2 months, people did not just up and leave. After the recent content they pushed out, more people are playing. So....yeah. Anything else?
Yes, you are not comprehending it. You aren't understanding that they aren't talking about current subscribers. They are talking about the total number that have subscribed since the game started. It is made clear in the last sentence what the are talking about when they announced 2 million registered users. They do it this way to purposefully make it sound like they are doing better than they are. Your quote even ends with the following:
On April 16, 2014, Square Enix announced that more than two million people have registered an account for the game.
If WoW were to use total registered users, it would likely have over 100 million. Your quote doesn't say anything about active subscribers. But you made the claim that they had 1.8 million subs. They don't and your wiki-quote supports that.
Originally posted by BeansnBreadYou are not accurately comprehending what you are reading.
"in a Letter from the Producer at TGS, that the game had gained one million unique subscribers" Am I reading this wrong?"As of February 2014, 1.8 million players have created 6.7 million characters and logged over 400 million hours of play time."1.8 million people logged more than 400 million hours as of February. 2 months ago. As of April they announced the have 2 million accounts created. I get that. But come on people. think for a minute. I'm sure in the past 2 months, people did not just up and leave. After the recent content they pushed out, more people are playing. So....yeah. Anything else?
Yes, you are not comprehending it. You aren't understanding that they aren't talking about current subscribers. They are talking about the total number that have subscribed since the game started. It is made clear in the last sentence what the are talking about when they announced 2 million registered users. They do it this way to purposefully make it sound like they are doing better than they are. Your quote even ends with the following:
On April 16, 2014, Square Enix announced that more than two million people have registered an account for the game.
If WoW were to use total registered users, it would likely have over 100 million. Your quote doesn't say anything about active subscribers. But you made the claim that they had 1.8 million subs. They don't and your wiki-quote supports that.
OH MY GOD. I'm not talking about registered users. Never once mentioned it in my statements above.
I was stating the game has 1.8 million subscribers due to the fact that 1.8 million people created 6.7 million characters and logged more than 400 million hours. AS OF FEBRUARY 2014 seems like I said, 1.8 million subscribers as of feb. 2014.
This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
That is what I was telling people. Your getting off track and you gotta check my other posts.
I don't care if they have 2 million regestered accounts. That's not what I have been talking about at all. Not even close.
Originally posted by BeansnBread You are not accurately comprehending what you are reading.
"in a Letter from the Producer at TGS, that the game had gained one million unique subscribers"
Am I reading this wrong?
"As of February 2014, 1.8 million players have created 6.7 million characters and logged over 400 million hours of play time."
1.8 million people logged more than 400 million hours as of February. 2 months ago. As of April they announced the have 2 million accounts created. I get that. But come on people. think for a minute. I'm sure in the past 2 months, people did not just up and leave. After the recent content they pushed out, more people are playing. So....yeah. Anything else?
I read the link you provided to me and its clear they are talking about total registered players.
Originally posted by BeansnBreadYou are not accurately comprehending what you are reading.
"in a Letter from the Producer at TGS, that the game had gained one million unique subscribers" Am I reading this wrong?"As of February 2014, 1.8 million players have created 6.7 million characters and logged over 400 million hours of play time."1.8 million people logged more than 400 million hours as of February. 2 months ago. As of April they announced the have 2 million accounts created. I get that. But come on people. think for a minute. I'm sure in the past 2 months, people did not just up and leave. After the recent content they pushed out, more people are playing. So....yeah. Anything else?
Yes, you are not comprehending it. You aren't understanding that they aren't talking about current subscribers. They are talking about the total number that have subscribed since the game started. It is made clear in the last sentence what the are talking about when they announced 2 million registered users. They do it this way to purposefully make it sound like they are doing better than they are. Your quote even ends with the following:
On April 16, 2014, Square Enix announced that more than two million people have registered an account for the game.
If WoW were to use total registered users, it would likely have over 100 million. Your quote doesn't say anything about active subscribers. But you made the claim that they had 1.8 million subs. They don't and your wiki-quote supports that.
OH MY GOD. I'm not talking about registered users. Never once mentioned it in my statements above.
I was stating the game has 1.8 million subscribers due to the fact that 1.8 million people created 6.7 million characters and logged more than 400 million hours.
This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
That is what I was telling people. Your getting off track and you gotta check my other posts.
I don't care if they have 2 million regestered accounts. That's not what I have been talking about at all. Not even close.
They don't have 1.8 million subscribers. That's what you continue to be wrong about. There is no mention of it anywhere that you linked. I'm not really sure why you want this to be true so badly. They never mentioned that they have 1.8 million subscribers. They said that 1.8 million players created 6.7 million characters. That's over the games lifetime and has nothing to do with active subscriptions. I'm going to let this one go though since you seem to be incapable of accepting this fact.
Originally posted by lifeordinary Originally posted by Allacore69Originally posted by BeansnBreadYou are not accurately comprehending what you are reading.
"in a Letter from the Producer at TGS, that the game had gained one million unique subscribers" Am I reading this wrong?"As of February 2014, 1.8 million players have created 6.7 million characters and logged over 400 million hours of play time."1.8 million people logged more than 400 million hours as of February. 2 months ago. As of April they announced the have 2 million accounts created. I get that. But come on people. think for a minute. I'm sure in the past 2 months, people did not just up and leave. After the recent content they pushed out, more people are playing. So....yeah. Anything else?I read the link you provided to me and its clear they are talking about total registered players.
And English isn't even my first language.
What the hell is wrong with you people. I'll quote it again and i'll explain what you guys are not getting. Ready? Here we go:
"OH MY GOD. I'm not talking about registered users. Never once mentioned it in my statements above. I was stating the game has 1.8 million subscribers due to the fact that 1.8 million people created 6.7 million characters and logged more than 400 million hours. AS OF FEBRUARY 2014 seems like I said, 1.8 million subscribers as of feb. 2014. This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ That is what I was telling people. Your getting off track and you gotta check my other posts. I don't care if they have 2 million regestered accounts. That's not what I have been talking about at all. Not even close."
Originally posted by BeansnBreadYou are not accurately comprehending what you are reading.
"in a Letter from the Producer at TGS, that the game had gained one million unique subscribers" Am I reading this wrong?"As of February 2014, 1.8 million players have created 6.7 million characters and logged over 400 million hours of play time."1.8 million people logged more than 400 million hours as of February. 2 months ago. As of April they announced the have 2 million accounts created. I get that. But come on people. think for a minute. I'm sure in the past 2 months, people did not just up and leave. After the recent content they pushed out, more people are playing. So....yeah. Anything else?
Yes, you are not comprehending it. You aren't understanding that they aren't talking about current subscribers. They are talking about the total number that have subscribed since the game started. It is made clear in the last sentence what the are talking about when they announced 2 million registered users. They do it this way to purposefully make it sound like they are doing better than they are. Your quote even ends with the following:On April 16, 2014, Square Enix announced that more than two million people have registered an account for the game.If WoW were to use total registered users, it would likely have over 100 million. Your quote doesn't say anything about active subscribers. But you made the claim that they had 1.8 million subs. They don't and your wiki-quote supports that.
OH MY GOD. I'm not talking about registered users. Never once mentioned it in my statements above. I was stating the game has 1.8 million subscribers due to the fact that 1.8 million people created 6.7 million characters and logged more than 400 million hours. This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^That is what I was telling people. Your getting off track and you gotta check my other posts. I don't care if they have 2 million regestered accounts. That's not what I have been talking about at all. Not even close.
They don't have 1.8 million subscribers. That's what you continue to be wrong about. There is no mention of it anywhere that you linked. I'm not really sure why you want this to be true so badly. They never mentioned that they have 1.8 million subscribers. They said that 1.8 million players created 6.7 million characters. That's over the games lifetime and has nothing to do with active subscriptions. I'm going to let this one go though since you seem to be incapable of accepting this fact.
"As of February 2014, 1.8 million players have created 6.7 million characters and logged over 400 million hours of play time."
My god people are dumb.
Are you sure you read it right? It says as of February 2014. So I am right and people here hate to be proven wrong. It seems like everybody is misreading besides me.
HMMM the game is not F2P so..... that means 1.8 million subscribers. I mean how am I wrong. If 1.8 million people created 6.7 million characters and logged 400 million hours then how am I wrong? Can nobody put 2 and 2 together? Is this just going right over your head or are you trolling me?
No comments? Nothing? Any way, ESO is a great game and the crafting is excellent but lock picking could be better. Most quests are soloable but others need at least 1 other person to help. Again join a guild. Join 5 guilds. You can do that you know. Plus people are really nice. Ask for help and like 100 people responds with, "I'll help". Just get in the chat and chat it up and you'll see that the social aspect of the game is there and very clear. I loined 2 guilds and we talk and group all the time. if you make no effort to be social, then the game will feel like a single player game.
Originally posted by mbd1968After playing a bit in beta and on live since the middle of last week I'd have to say the game is OK. It's nor really anything new that I haven't played before in my 10 years of MMO experience (maybe it's 11 years, I think I started in 2003). It's not a game I want to to log onto in my free time and can find other things to do, it's a filler, nothing more.If you are bored and have nothing much to do and are looking for a game to fill a bit of time pick it up and give it a go but if you are happy in your current game don't spend the money as you won't be getting anything you haven't seen before.
This sums the game imo. Nothing new or innovative when you compare the crafting system to Age Of Wulin its sub par in fact its a pretty bland game.
Agreed.Nothing 'great'.... just a filler. Just another game to add to the pile and list. Not the 'end all-be all' I was hoping for.I'll also be staying away from Archage for the same reason.
ArchAge looks decent. Who knows. We'll find out in beta.
As a former ArcheAge player, I have to said XL Game ruined the game completely since it goes free to play.The game itself was incomplete to begin with, lot of missing content.Oh the PVE questing system is the same old text base grind, so don't expect it to be on par with SWTOR,GW2 or ESO, i suspect most ppl will skip the text anyway.And since they go F2P, they streamline the content and basically turns AA into another boring themepark. VERY DISAPPOINTING but i guess that's the consquence for releasing unfinished product to the market (cough cough ESO)The pvp is quite awful and lack of attention from the dev (GW2 and ESO did it better for sure)and sadly i don't see Trion revamp the game to the point it would live up to its expectation.Honestly, Black Desert Online might be more worthy than AA at this point.
Wait a minute. Are we talking about the same game? The game is in alpha. Massively had a contest to win an alpha key a couple days ago. How did you play it? It was just released overseas 2 months ago and it is IP blocked. Check your facts dude. your WAY off with this one.
epic face palm for you moron.
Do you even know Archeage was released in Korea and even in Japan for a while already? as a matter of fact the game is somewhat dying/struggling big time now.
and I hope you are smart enough to realize MMORPG forum users are not exclusively MURICAN.
No disrespect, well maybe a little.
Epic face palm!
I just said exactly what you said. Here i'll quote:
"It was just released overseas 2 months ago and it is IP blocked."
Did you not read my post at all LMAO?
No disrespect, well maybe a little.
BTW I checked your profile and your not from Korea or Japan or Russia so try again. Again it was stated a thousand times that it is IP blocked.
Do I have to post a thousand sources for this too? I like how you all misinterperet everything I say. Like FF XIV has 1.8 million subs. You people are driving me crazy. All you do is troll to death and when I show proof, you guy's rage leave the forums or come back with, "I don't trust Square Enix, their always wrong" or you'll post some forum comment to prove your point when it was posted by some goober that just sits around playing games all day, who has nothing to do with any video game company or journalism. Please stop trolling guy's. I see nobody came back and fought me over the FF thing. THAT was rediculas. Just crazy I tell ya'.
EDIT forgive me the game was released in Korea on January 15, 2013 and has also had a closed beta in China. I thought it said January 2014 lol. And I checked again, yes it is IP blocked. See I can admit when i'm wrong, why can't anybody here admit that? It dosent hurt you know. People need to quit trolling.
Release date(s) Korea - 15 January 2013, Japan - 23 July 2013,[1] Russia - Open beta, Europe - 2014, North America - 2014
So unless you moved to any of these places, Korea, Japan, and Russia I mean, you have NOT played the game lmao.
BTW i'm not a moron. Please stop posting things like that. I reported you because people do not need to be treated like that. Have some respect please and lets keep this thread clean.
Originally posted by mbd1968After playing a bit in beta and on live since the middle of last week I'd have to say the game is OK. It's nor really anything new that I haven't played before in my 10 years of MMO experience (maybe it's 11 years, I think I started in 2003). It's not a game I want to to log onto in my free time and can find other things to do, it's a filler, nothing more.If you are bored and have nothing much to do and are looking for a game to fill a bit of time pick it up and give it a go but if you are happy in your current game don't spend the money as you won't be getting anything you haven't seen before.
This sums the game imo. Nothing new or innovative when you compare the crafting system to Age Of Wulin its sub par in fact its a pretty bland game.
Agreed.Nothing 'great'.... just a filler. Just another game to add to the pile and list. Not the 'end all-be all' I was hoping for.I'll also be staying away from Archage for the same reason.
ArchAge looks decent. Who knows. We'll find out in beta. ESO was pretty good in the beta. But lots of bugs though.
As a former ArcheAge player, I have to said XL Game ruined the game completely since it goes free to play.
The game itself was incomplete to begin with, lot of missing content.
Oh the PVE questing system is the same old text base grind, so don't expect it to be on par with SWTOR,GW2 or ESO, i suspect most ppl will skip the text anyway.
And since they go F2P, they streamline the content and basically turns AA into another boring themepark. VERY DISAPPOINTING but i guess that's the consquence for releasing unfinished product to the market (cough cough ESO)
The pvp is quite awful and lack of attention from the dev (GW2 and ESO did it better for sure)
and sadly i don't see Trion revamp the game to the point it would live up to its expectation.
Honestly, Black Desert Online might be more worthy than AA at this point.
Remind me, what MMO is actually hard? Almost 20 years of MMOs and I still haven't found one.
With enough time, you can achieve what anyone else does on the whole in MMOs. Thus they are the ultimate time sinks and the most dedicated are often the most rewarded. Read: not the most skilled. Even the toughest of raids are more just acts of repetition learned by, you guessed it, time investment.
I understand what you're looking for, I just don't think you'll ever find it in the MMO space.
Originally posted by SuperNick Remind me, what MMO is actually hard? Almost 20 years of MMOs and I still haven't found one.With enough time, you can achieve what anyone else does on the whole in MMOs. Thus they are the ultimate time sinks and the most dedicated are often the most rewarded. Read: not the most skilled. Even the toughest of raids are more just acts of repetition learned by, you guessed it, time investment.I understand what you're looking for, I just don't think you'll ever find it in the MMO space.
I'm a registered user for SWG and I haven't played it since 2004. Or whenever JTLS came out. I'm a registered WoW user and I haven't played it since 2004 or 05? Made it to low 50s. I registered accounts for LOTRO, Warhammer, DAoC. Games I haven't played in years. I'm also a registered user for GW2 which I haven't logged in 4 months. If they counted registered accounts in any of those games my account would be counted in the number of registered accounts since (insert date) and created characters (Insert number). In none of those games am I a subscriber.
After playing a bit in beta and on live since the middle of last week I'd have to say the game is OK. It's nor really anything new that I haven't played before in my 10 years of MMO experience (maybe it's 11 years, I think I started in 2003). It's not a game I want to to log onto in my free time and can find other things to do, it's a filler, nothing more.
If you are bored and have nothing much to do and are looking for a game to fill a bit of time pick it up and give it a go but if you are happy in your current game don't spend the money as you won't be getting anything you haven't seen before.
Haft to agree with this. I admit I was enjoying it at first, but the bland gameplay (zerg quests etc.) has ultimately bored me to death. Altogether i've got around 80+ hours of gameplay into it so far. Do I feel like I got my moneys worth? Yes and no. Time wise I guess I did, but I found myself playing a lot of those 80+ hours waiting for it to get really interesting and pick up (I will say dungeons were pretty fun). Unfortunately it never picked up enough to make me want to keep playing. Now I found no desire to log in and as of today have cancelled my subscription.
I will say I am glad I did make the purchase and would have bought it just like I buy every new so called AAA title. Like others i'm waiting for the mmo to call home. Something different. Unfortunately this isn't it. I believe it's worth the purchase without the subscription, but in my opinion the quality and depth of the game doesn't justify the subscription cost.
However the quests are fun and I still think it is a 1 or 2 month game at the most.
We'll see in two months, depends on their updates, I think they have their hands full with bugs at the moment that might hurt updates every 4-6 months, but it did not stop their second Adventure Zone from coming out so I think its going pretty good at the moment. Adventure zones are the size of an entire zone, which is treated like a small group dungeon, has 1 guaranteed skyshard and boss. I think this will keep us going pretty long in these places, since they also have quests and stuff in them.
I think you need to redo your math a little... if you basically have done all the combined zones in less than a month, how is getting 1 new zone every 4 to 6 months going to keep you busy for another 4 to 6 months.
Reality check, you're going to be standing around waiting for content... just like in every other MMO out there.
The content at release should keep you busy for 6 months at a minimum... meaning you can't attain max level before then... if it doesn't, it won't keep you occupied for a 4-6 month stretch. Proof is in the easy and speed at which content is consumed. Zenimax needs to release new content every 2 weeks at the rate the content is being consumed to meet the player demand. They can't.
Originally posted by mbd1968After playing a bit in beta and on live since the middle of last week I'd have to say the game is OK. It's nor really anything new that I haven't played before in my 10 years of MMO experience (maybe it's 11 years, I think I started in 2003). It's not a game I want to to log onto in my free time and can find other things to do, it's a filler, nothing more.If you are bored and have nothing much to do and are looking for a game to fill a bit of time pick it up and give it a go but if you are happy in your current game don't spend the money as you won't be getting anything you haven't seen before.
This sums the game imo. Nothing new or innovative when you compare the crafting system to Age Of Wulin its sub par in fact its a pretty bland game.
Agreed.Nothing 'great'.... just a filler. Just another game to add to the pile and list. Not the 'end all-be all' I was hoping for.I'll also be staying away from Archage for the same reason.
ArchAge looks decent. Who knows. We'll find out in beta.
As a former ArcheAge player, I have to said XL Game ruined the game completely since it goes free to play.The game itself was incomplete to begin with, lot of missing content.Oh the PVE questing system is the same old text base grind, so don't expect it to be on par with SWTOR,GW2 or ESO, i suspect most ppl will skip the text anyway.And since they go F2P, they streamline the content and basically turns AA into another boring themepark. VERY DISAPPOINTING but i guess that's the consquence for releasing unfinished product to the market (cough cough ESO)The pvp is quite awful and lack of attention from the dev (GW2 and ESO did it better for sure)and sadly i don't see Trion revamp the game to the point it would live up to its expectation.Honestly, Black Desert Online might be more worthy than AA at this point.
Wait a minute. Are we talking about the same game? The game is in alpha. Massively had a contest to win an alpha key a couple days ago. How did you play it? It was just released overseas 2 months ago and it is IP blocked. Check your facts dude. your WAY off with this one.
epic face palm for you moron.
Do you even know Archeage was released in Korea and even in Japan for a while already? as a matter of fact the game is somewhat dying/struggling big time now.
and I hope you are smart enough to realize MMORPG forum users are not exclusively MURICAN.
No disrespect, well maybe a little.
Epic face palm!
I just said exactly what you said. Here i'll quote:
"It was just released overseas 2 months ago and it is IP blocked."
Did you not read my post at all LMAO?
No disrespect, well maybe a little.
BTW I checked your profile and your not from Korea or Japan or Russia so try again. Again it was stated a thousand times that it is IP blocked.
Do I have to post a thousand sources for this too? I like how you all misinterperet everything I say. Like FF XIV has 1.8 million subs. You people are driving me crazy. All you do is troll to death and when I show proof, you guy's rage leave the forums or come back with, "I don't trust Square Enix, their always wrong" or you'll post some forum comment to prove your point when it was posted by some goober that just sits around playing games all day, who has nothing to do with any video game company or journalism. Please stop trolling guy's. I see nobody came back and fought me over the FF thing. THAT was rediculas. Just crazy I tell ya'.
EDIT forgive me the game was released in Korea on January 15, 2013 and has also had a closed beta in China. I thought it said January 2014 lol. And I checked again, yes it is IP blocked. See I can admit when i'm wrong, why can't anybody here admit that? It dosent hurt you know. People need to quit trolling.
Release date(s) Korea - 15 January 2013, Japan - 23 July 2013,[1] Russia - Open beta, Europe - 2014, North America - 2014
So unless you moved to any of these places, Korea, Japan, and Russia I mean, you have NOT played the game lmao.
BTW i'm not a moron. Please stop posting things like that. I reported you because people do not need to be treated like that. Have some respect please and lets keep this thread clean.
There were people playing Korean/Russian Archeage for ages now. Don't know how excactly but there were a lot of EU/US streams if u wanted to check the game out. Also I've been in Archeage alpha for 10 days now myself (and there was an invite wave earlier than that too). SO its possible he got an invite too, if he wasn't playing the foreign versions.
The game has no future, the company behind it has all the wrong priorities and the publisher is known for anti-consumer practices. This is just a recipe for failure. This game is no exception to those elsewhere in the industry who have met the same fate.
I am not sure who should more ashamed at this point... the publisher/developers or some of us who actually bought the game on faith. At very least I have a decent statue and soso art/lore book out of it.
So unless you moved to any of these places, Korea, Japan, and Russia I mean, you have NOT played the game lmao.
BTW i'm not a moron. Please stop posting things like that. I reported you because people do not need to be treated like that. Have some respect please and lets keep this thread clean.
Allacore69,
I hate to burst your bubble.. im not sure if you are new to playing MMO's outside of your region and/or just trolling but it is actually possible to play Archeage outside of Korea.
I have friends who played it before. Not sure if you ever heard of VPN's but here is a link
I also don't understand how you are going to report someone for disrespecting you and then do it right back.. but to each their own i guess. Anyways, hope this clears it up for you.
Also.. I think what people are trying to say about your 1.8 million subscribers that you keep insisting is true.
"As of February 2014, 1.8 million players have created 6.7 million characters and logged over 400 million hours of play time."
What they are stating is that as of that Feb date, 1.8 people had subscribed and made characters but that doesn't mean that they are necessarily subscribed to the game currently. Im going to assume... I may be wrong on this.. that they included my account which I have had since version 1.0. I also played ARR up until right before the new content release last year so they may still have me included in that number.
Sorry to derail the thread.
Concerning ESO, I enjoyed the game for a little bit but it is defintely a game I choose to play as a filler. There is no hook to this game for me. Im not enjoying the fact that there are one skill builds and the balance of builds are way off.... but that's really nothing new in games that offer a lot of skills to choose from. I can see ESO as being a game that I could come back to every once in a while and enjoy, just like TSW but there is nothing the game offers that makes me want to continue paying a sub. I can see why some people would enjoy the game. Its not bad for a medieval fantasy type setting and the voice acting is pretty cool. Im pretty sure im going to unsub after this free 30 days and wait for the bots to be removed and maybe come back to try the small raid content.
Originally posted by BeansnBreadYou are not accurately comprehending what you are reading.
"in a Letter from the Producer at TGS, that the game had gained one million unique subscribers" Am I reading this wrong?"As of February 2014, 1.8 million players have created 6.7 million characters and logged over 400 million hours of play time."1.8 million people logged more than 400 million hours as of February. 2 months ago. As of April they announced the have 2 million accounts created. I get that. But come on people. think for a minute. I'm sure in the past 2 months, people did not just up and leave. After the recent content they pushed out, more people are playing. So....yeah. Anything else?
Yes, you are not comprehending it. You aren't understanding that they aren't talking about current subscribers. They are talking about the total number that have subscribed since the game started. It is made clear in the last sentence what the are talking about when they announced 2 million registered users. They do it this way to purposefully make it sound like they are doing better than they are. Your quote even ends with the following:On April 16, 2014, Square Enix announced that more than two million people have registered an account for the game.If WoW were to use total registered users, it would likely have over 100 million. Your quote doesn't say anything about active subscribers. But you made the claim that they had 1.8 million subs. They don't and your wiki-quote supports that.
OH MY GOD. I'm not talking about registered users. Never once mentioned it in my statements above. I was stating the game has 1.8 million subscribers due to the fact that 1.8 million people created 6.7 million characters and logged more than 400 million hours. This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^That is what I was telling people. Your getting off track and you gotta check my other posts. I don't care if they have 2 million regestered accounts. That's not what I have been talking about at all. Not even close.
They don't have 1.8 million subscribers. That's what you continue to be wrong about. There is no mention of it anywhere that you linked. I'm not really sure why you want this to be true so badly. They never mentioned that they have 1.8 million subscribers. They said that 1.8 million players created 6.7 million characters. That's over the games lifetime and has nothing to do with active subscriptions. I'm going to let this one go though since you seem to be incapable of accepting this fact.
"As of February 2014, 1.8 million players have created 6.7 million characters and logged over 400 million hours of play time."
My god people are dumb.
Are you sure you read it right? It says as of February 2014. So I am right and people here hate to be proven wrong. It seems like everybody is misreading besides me.
HMMM the game is not F2P so..... that means 1.8 million subscribers. I mean how am I wrong. If 1.8 million people created 6.7 million characters and logged 400 million hours then how am I wrong? Can nobody put 2 and 2 together? Is this just going right over your head or are you trolling me?
To put it into WoW terminology:
If Blizzard were to say that 100M unique subscribers have created 670M characters and logged 20 billion hours would you say that WoW has 100M subscribers? No.
What it would mean is that over its life time there have been 100M subscribers some of whom still subscribe.
And that is what the FFXIV letters mean. It has had 1.8M subscribers over its life - some of whom still subscribe.
How many still subscribe?
Well the 400M hours played number suggests an average of about 220 hours per account. Now whilst some TESO folks have already logged that many hours in less than their 30 days included others will have logged a lot less. Even so super casual players will rack up 220 hours in fairly short order; so an average between "hardcore" and "casual" will be ... something between the included 30 days and 1 extra month say. On average of course - the reality we assume will be that some subscribe for longer and many will leave after the first 30 days.
However it does suggest that the answer is "not that many".
It is too easy and because of this it took the heart out of the game.
For example.
Lock picking can be done by anyone and it is super simple. It would have more heart if it was hard, had a skill with it, or maybe class based.
Crafting is also something that anyone can do. I mean so far I craft all my own stuff, armor, runes, bows, swords. Also racial books are easy to come by making it easy to craft other races armors sets.
Problems like these seem small to most people but I think they take alot away from the game. Something like being a armor crafter should make you feel unique at high level because someone else chose something else. There is none of that here because everyone can do anything. It would even be more uniqe if you could only craft your racial armor. But no that is not the case, they cheaply give everyone everything.
It is basically a single player game with a semi fun pvp zone with no real rewards for killing and no penalty for death.
However the quests are fun and I still think it is a 1 or 2 month game at the most.
Agree with the crafting part. They should not have made all crafting professions available, but have you choose one. Motifs is too common, they should have been really rare drops.
Originally posted by SmarnyPete I'm a registered user for SWG and I haven't played it since 2004. Or whenever JTLS came out. I'm a registered WoW user and I haven't played it since 2004 or 05? Made it to low 50s. I registered accounts for LOTRO, Warhammer, DAoC. Games I haven't played in years. I'm also a registered user for GW2 which I haven't logged in 4 months. If they counted registered accounts in any of those games my account would be counted in the number of registered accounts since (insert date) and created characters (Insert number). In none of those games am I a subscriber.
The point is in February 2014, 1.8 million people created 6.5 million characters and logged over 400 million hours.
So that means 1.8 million subs. Get it?
It was stated in APRIL 2014 that the fame had 2 million registered accounts.
NOBODY IS TALKING ABOUT REGISTERED ACCOUNTS. STOP WITH THAT.
I'm talking about subscribers. Not registered accounts.
These FACTS are 2 seperate thing's.
Look it up. I already posted sources in my other posts. Please read my posts all the way through.Don't read a little of the first post and comment on something that has NOTHING to do with what i'm talking about.
Originally posted by skoupidi Originally posted by Allacore69Originally posted by IneveraskforthisOriginally posted by Allacore69Originally posted by IneveraskforthisOriginally posted by Allacore69Originally posted by BlackWatchOriginally posted by SavageHorizonOriginally posted by mbd1968After playing a bit in beta and on live since the middle of last week I'd have to say the game is OK. It's nor really anything new that I haven't played before in my 10 years of MMO experience (maybe it's 11 years, I think I started in 2003). It's not a game I want to to log onto in my free time and can find other things to do, it's a filler, nothing more.If you are bored and have nothing much to do and are looking for a game to fill a bit of time pick it up and give it a go but if you are happy in your current game don't spend the money as you won't be getting anything you haven't seen before.
This sums the game imo. Nothing new or innovative when you compare the crafting system to Age Of Wulin its sub par in fact its a pretty bland game.Agreed.Nothing 'great'.... just a filler. Just another game to add to the pile and list. Not the 'end all-be all' I was hoping for.I'll also be staying away from Archage for the same reason. ArchAge looks decent. Who knows. We'll find out in beta.As a former ArcheAge player, I have to said XL Game ruined the game completely since it goes free to play.The game itself was incomplete to begin with, lot of missing content.Oh the PVE questing system is the same old text base grind, so don't expect it to be on par with SWTOR,GW2 or ESO, i suspect most ppl will skip the text anyway.And since they go F2P, they streamline the content and basically turns AA into another boring themepark. VERY DISAPPOINTING but i guess that's the consquence for releasing unfinished product to the market (cough cough ESO)The pvp is quite awful and lack of attention from the dev (GW2 and ESO did it better for sure)and sadly i don't see Trion revamp the game to the point it would live up to its expectation.Honestly, Black Desert Online might be more worthy than AA at this point.Wait a minute. Are we talking about the same game? The game is in alpha. Massively had a contest to win an alpha key a couple days ago. How did you play it? It was just released overseas 2 months ago and it is IP blocked. Check your facts dude. your WAY off with this one.epic face palm for you moron.Do you even know Archeage was released in Korea and even in Japan for a while already? as a matter of fact the game is somewhat dying/struggling big time now.and I hope you are smart enough to realize MMORPG forum users are not exclusively MURICAN.No disrespect, well maybe a little.Epic face palm!I just said exactly what you said. Here i'll quote:"It was just released overseas 2 months ago and it is IP blocked."Did you not read my post at all LMAO?No disrespect, well maybe a little.BTW I checked your profile and your not from Korea or Japan or Russia so try again. Again it was stated a thousand times that it is IP blocked. Do I have to post a thousand sources for this too? I like how you all misinterperet everything I say. Like FF XIV has 1.8 million subs. You people are driving me crazy. All you do is troll to death and when I show proof, you guy's rage leave the forums or come back with, "I don't trust Square Enix, their always wrong" or you'll post some forum comment to prove your point when it was posted by some goober that just sits around playing games all day, who has nothing to do with any video game company or journalism. Please stop trolling guy's. I see nobody came back and fought me over the FF thing. THAT was rediculas. Just crazy I tell ya'.EDIT forgive me the game was released in Korea on January 15, 2013 and has also had a closed beta in China. I thought it said January 2014 lol. And I checked again, yes it is IP blocked. See I can admit when i'm wrong, why can't anybody here admit that? It dosent hurt you know. People need to quit trolling. Release date(s) Korea - 15 January 2013, Japan - 23 July 2013,[1] Russia - Open beta, Europe - 2014, North America - 2014 So unless you moved to any of these places, Korea, Japan, and Russia I mean, you have NOT played the game lmao.BTW i'm not a moron. Please stop posting things like that. I reported you because people do not need to be treated like that. Have some respect please and lets keep this thread clean.There were people playing Korean/Russian Archeage for ages now. Don't know how excactly but there were a lot of EU/US streams if u wanted to check the game out. Also I've been in Archeage alpha for 10 days now myself (and there was an invite wave earlier than that too). SO its possible he got an invite too, if he wasn't playing the foreign versions.
I asked and no he's not in alpha. And nobody has been playing for "ages" the game came out a year ago overseas LMAO.
Originally posted by Ticonz Originally posted by Allacore69So unless you moved to any of these places, Korea, Japan, and Russia I mean, you have NOT played the game lmao.
BTW i'm not a moron. Please stop posting things like that. I reported you because people do not need to be treated like that. Have some respect please and lets keep this thread clean.Allacore69,
I hate to burst your bubble.. im not sure if you are new to playing MMO's outside of your region and/or just trolling but it is actually possible to play Archeage outside of Korea.
I have friends who played it before. Not sure if you ever heard of VPN's but here is a link
I also don't understand how you are going to report someone for disrespecting you and then do it right back.. but to each their own i guess. Anyways, hope this clears it up for you.
Also.. I think what people are trying to say about your 1.8 million subscribers that you keep insisting is true.
"As of February 2014, 1.8 million players have created 6.7 million characters and logged over 400 million hours of play time."
What they are stating is that as of that Feb date, 1.8 people had subscribed and made characters but that doesn't mean that they are necessarily subscribed to the game currently. Im going to assume... I may be wrong on this.. that they included my account which I have had since version 1.0. I also played ARR up until right before the new content release last year so they may still have me included in that number.
Sorry to derail the thread.
Concerning ESO, I enjoyed the game for a little bit but it is defintely a game I choose to play as a filler. There is no hook to this game for me. Im not enjoying the fact that there are one skill builds and the balance of builds are way off.... but that's really nothing new in games that offer a lot of skills to choose from. I can see ESO as being a game that I could come back to every once in a while and enjoy, just like TSW but there is nothing the game offers that makes me want to continue paying a sub. I can see why some people would enjoy the game. Its not bad for a medieval fantasy type setting and the voice acting is pretty cool. Im pretty sure im going to unsub after this free 30 days and wait for the bots to be removed and maybe come back to try the small raid content.
"Naoki Yoshida announced, in a Letter from the Producer at TGS, that the game had gained one million unique subscribers."
Originally posted by BeansnBreadYou are not accurately comprehending what you are reading.
"in a Letter from the Producer at TGS, that the game had gained one million unique subscribers" Am I reading this wrong?"As of February 2014, 1.8 million players have created 6.7 million characters and logged over 400 million hours of play time."1.8 million people logged more than 400 million hours as of February. 2 months ago. As of April they announced the have 2 million accounts created. I get that. But come on people. think for a minute. I'm sure in the past 2 months, people did not just up and leave. After the recent content they pushed out, more people are playing. So....yeah. Anything else?
Yes, you are not comprehending it. You aren't understanding that they aren't talking about current subscribers. They are talking about the total number that have subscribed since the game started. It is made clear in the last sentence what the are talking about when they announced 2 million registered users. They do it this way to purposefully make it sound like they are doing better than they are. Your quote even ends with the following:On April 16, 2014, Square Enix announced that more than two million people have registered an account for the game.If WoW were to use total registered users, it would likely have over 100 million. Your quote doesn't say anything about active subscribers. But you made the claim that they had 1.8 million subs. They don't and your wiki-quote supports that.
OH MY GOD. I'm not talking about registered users. Never once mentioned it in my statements above. I was stating the game has 1.8 million subscribers due to the fact that 1.8 million people created 6.7 million characters and logged more than 400 million hours. This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^That is what I was telling people. Your getting off track and you gotta check my other posts. I don't care if they have 2 million regestered accounts. That's not what I have been talking about at all. Not even close.
They don't have 1.8 million subscribers. That's what you continue to be wrong about. There is no mention of it anywhere that you linked. I'm not really sure why you want this to be true so badly. They never mentioned that they have 1.8 million subscribers. They said that 1.8 million players created 6.7 million characters. That's over the games lifetime and has nothing to do with active subscriptions. I'm going to let this one go though since you seem to be incapable of accepting this fact.
"As of February 2014, 1.8 million players have created 6.7 million characters and logged over 400 million hours of play time."My god people are dumb.Are you sure you read it right? It says as of February 2014. So I am right and people here hate to be proven wrong. It seems like everybody is misreading besides me.HMMM the game is not F2P so..... that means 1.8 million subscribers. I mean how am I wrong. If 1.8 million people created 6.7 million characters and logged 400 million hours then how am I wrong? Can nobody put 2 and 2 together? Is this just going right over your head or are you trolling me?
To put it into WoW terminology:
If Blizzard were to say that 100M unique subscribers have created 670M characters and logged 20 billion hours would you say that WoW has 100M subscribers? No.
What it would mean is that over its life time there have been 100M subscribers some of whom still subscribe.
And that is what the FFXIV letters mean. It has had 1.8M subscribers over its life - some of whom still subscribe.
How many still subscribe?
Well the 400M hours played number suggests an average of about 220 hours per account. Now whilst some TESO folks have already logged that many hours in less than their 30 days included others will have logged a lot less. Even so super casual players will rack up 220 hours in fairly short order; so an average between "hardcore" and "casual" will be ... something between the included 30 days and 1 extra month say. On average of course - the reality we assume will be that some subscribe for longer and many will leave after the first 30 days.
However it does suggest that the answer is "not that many".
Seems like everybody today can not read for crap.
"Sales and subscriptions[edit] By the end of the first week, the PS3 version of A Realm Reborn was placed second in Japan's sales charts, with 184,000 physical copies sold.[81] By the following day, after the promised maintenance period, the game reached a record of 325,000 concurrent connections, with an estimate of roughly 7,000 per server.[82] Naoki Yoshida announced, in a Letter from the Producer at TGS, that the game had gained one million unique subscribers.[83] As of February 2014, 1.8 million players have created 6.7 million characters and logged over 400 million hours of play time.[84] On April 16, 2014, Square Enix announced that more than two million people have registered an account for the game.[85]
Among the Famitsu 2013 Top 100, a listing of the top 100 Japanese retail software sales for the year of 2013 from data collected by Famitsu's parent company Enterbrain, the PS3 version of Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn ranked number 32, with 244,574 physical retail sales within Japan.[86]"
READ IT VERY CAREFULLY OKAY. GO VERY SLOE IF YOU HAVE TO.
See how subscribers and registered accounts are 2 very different thing's.
Also do your math and you'll see your numbers and calculations are over 5 million. So what your saying is 5 million subscribers? I don't know what you were trying to do here bet it did not work LMAO.
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Yes, you are not comprehending it. You aren't understanding that they aren't talking about current subscribers. They are talking about the total number that have subscribed since the game started. It is made clear in the last sentence what the are talking about when they announced 2 million registered users. They do it this way to purposefully make it sound like they are doing better than they are. Your quote even ends with the following:
On April 16, 2014, Square Enix announced that more than two million people have registered an account for the game.
If WoW were to use total registered users, it would likely have over 100 million. Your quote doesn't say anything about active subscribers. But you made the claim that they had 1.8 million subs. They don't and your wiki-quote supports that.
OH MY GOD. I'm not talking about registered users. Never once mentioned it in my statements above.
I was stating the game has 1.8 million subscribers due to the fact that 1.8 million people created 6.7 million characters and logged more than 400 million hours. AS OF FEBRUARY 2014 seems like I said, 1.8 million subscribers as of feb. 2014.
This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
That is what I was telling people. Your getting off track and you gotta check my other posts.
I don't care if they have 2 million regestered accounts. That's not what I have been talking about at all. Not even close.
I read the link you provided to me and its clear they are talking about total registered players.
And English isn't even my first language.
They don't have 1.8 million subscribers. That's what you continue to be wrong about. There is no mention of it anywhere that you linked. I'm not really sure why you want this to be true so badly. They never mentioned that they have 1.8 million subscribers. They said that 1.8 million players created 6.7 million characters. That's over the games lifetime and has nothing to do with active subscriptions. I'm going to let this one go though since you seem to be incapable of accepting this fact.
I read the link you provided to me and its clear they are talking about total registered players.
And English isn't even my first language.
What the hell is wrong with you people. I'll quote it again and i'll explain what you guys are not getting. Ready? Here we go:
"OH MY GOD. I'm not talking about registered users. Never once mentioned it in my statements above.
I was stating the game has 1.8 million subscribers due to the fact that 1.8 million people created 6.7 million characters and logged more than 400 million hours. AS OF FEBRUARY 2014 seems like I said, 1.8 million subscribers as of feb. 2014.
This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
That is what I was telling people. Your getting off track and you gotta check my other posts.
I don't care if they have 2 million regestered accounts. That's not what I have been talking about at all. Not even close."
"As of February 2014, 1.8 million players have created 6.7 million characters and logged over 400 million hours of play time."
My god people are dumb.
Are you sure you read it right? It says as of February 2014. So I am right and people here hate to be proven wrong. It seems like everybody is misreading besides me.
HMMM the game is not F2P so..... that means 1.8 million subscribers. I mean how am I wrong. If 1.8 million people created 6.7 million characters and logged 400 million hours then how am I wrong? Can nobody put 2 and 2 together? Is this just going right over your head or are you trolling me?
No comments? Nothing? Any way, ESO is a great game and the crafting is excellent but lock picking could be better. Most quests are soloable but others need at least 1 other person to help. Again join a guild. Join 5 guilds. You can do that you know. Plus people are really nice. Ask for help and like 100 people responds with, "I'll help". Just get in the chat and chat it up and you'll see that the social aspect of the game is there and very clear. I loined 2 guilds and we talk and group all the time. if you make no effort to be social, then the game will feel like a single player game.
Epic face palm!
I just said exactly what you said. Here i'll quote:
"It was just released overseas 2 months ago and it is IP blocked."
Did you not read my post at all LMAO?
No disrespect, well maybe a little.
BTW I checked your profile and your not from Korea or Japan or Russia so try again. Again it was stated a thousand times that it is IP blocked.
Do I have to post a thousand sources for this too? I like how you all misinterperet everything I say. Like FF XIV has 1.8 million subs. You people are driving me crazy. All you do is troll to death and when I show proof, you guy's rage leave the forums or come back with, "I don't trust Square Enix, their always wrong" or you'll post some forum comment to prove your point when it was posted by some goober that just sits around playing games all day, who has nothing to do with any video game company or journalism. Please stop trolling guy's. I see nobody came back and fought me over the FF thing. THAT was rediculas. Just crazy I tell ya'.
EDIT forgive me the game was released in Korea on January 15, 2013 and has also had a closed beta in China. I thought it said January 2014 lol. And I checked again, yes it is IP blocked. See I can admit when i'm wrong, why can't anybody here admit that? It dosent hurt you know. People need to quit trolling.
Release date(s) Korea - 15 January 2013, Japan - 23 July 2013,[1] Russia - Open beta,
Europe - 2014,
North America - 2014
So unless you moved to any of these places, Korea, Japan, and Russia I mean, you have NOT played the game lmao.
BTW i'm not a moron. Please stop posting things like that. I reported you because people do not need to be treated like that. Have some respect please and lets keep this thread clean.
Please stay on topic and stop trolling.
Remind me, what MMO is actually hard? Almost 20 years of MMOs and I still haven't found one.
With enough time, you can achieve what anyone else does on the whole in MMOs. Thus they are the ultimate time sinks and the most dedicated are often the most rewarded. Read: not the most skilled. Even the toughest of raids are more just acts of repetition learned by, you guessed it, time investment.
I understand what you're looking for, I just don't think you'll ever find it in the MMO space.
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Haft to agree with this. I admit I was enjoying it at first, but the bland gameplay (zerg quests etc.) has ultimately bored me to death. Altogether i've got around 80+ hours of gameplay into it so far. Do I feel like I got my moneys worth? Yes and no. Time wise I guess I did, but I found myself playing a lot of those 80+ hours waiting for it to get really interesting and pick up (I will say dungeons were pretty fun). Unfortunately it never picked up enough to make me want to keep playing. Now I found no desire to log in and as of today have cancelled my subscription.
I will say I am glad I did make the purchase and would have bought it just like I buy every new so called AAA title. Like others i'm waiting for the mmo to call home. Something different. Unfortunately this isn't it. I believe it's worth the purchase without the subscription, but in my opinion the quality and depth of the game doesn't justify the subscription cost.
I think you need to redo your math a little... if you basically have done all the combined zones in less than a month, how is getting 1 new zone every 4 to 6 months going to keep you busy for another 4 to 6 months.
Reality check, you're going to be standing around waiting for content... just like in every other MMO out there.
The content at release should keep you busy for 6 months at a minimum... meaning you can't attain max level before then... if it doesn't, it won't keep you occupied for a 4-6 month stretch. Proof is in the easy and speed at which content is consumed. Zenimax needs to release new content every 2 weeks at the rate the content is being consumed to meet the player demand. They can't.
There were people playing Korean/Russian Archeage for ages now. Don't know how excactly but there were a lot of EU/US streams if u wanted to check the game out. Also I've been in Archeage alpha for 10 days now myself (and there was an invite wave earlier than that too). SO its possible he got an invite too, if he wasn't playing the foreign versions.
The game has no future, the company behind it has all the wrong priorities and the publisher is known for anti-consumer practices. This is just a recipe for failure. This game is no exception to those elsewhere in the industry who have met the same fate.
I am not sure who should more ashamed at this point... the publisher/developers or some of us who actually bought the game on faith. At very least I have a decent statue and soso art/lore book out of it.
Allacore69,
I hate to burst your bubble.. im not sure if you are new to playing MMO's outside of your region and/or just trolling but it is actually possible to play Archeage outside of Korea.
I have friends who played it before. Not sure if you ever heard of VPN's but here is a link
http://onlinegamevpn.blogspot.com/2013/05/how-to-play-archeage-outside-korea.html#.U1aTRfldV1A
If you are unsure of what a VPN is.. here is another link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_Private_Network
I also don't understand how you are going to report someone for disrespecting you and then do it right back.. but to each their own i guess. Anyways, hope this clears it up for you.
Also.. I think what people are trying to say about your 1.8 million subscribers that you keep insisting is true.
"As of February 2014, 1.8 million players have created 6.7 million characters and logged over 400 million hours of play time."
What they are stating is that as of that Feb date, 1.8 people had subscribed and made characters but that doesn't mean that they are necessarily subscribed to the game currently. Im going to assume... I may be wrong on this.. that they included my account which I have had since version 1.0. I also played ARR up until right before the new content release last year so they may still have me included in that number.
Sorry to derail the thread.
Concerning ESO, I enjoyed the game for a little bit but it is defintely a game I choose to play as a filler. There is no hook to this game for me. Im not enjoying the fact that there are one skill builds and the balance of builds are way off.... but that's really nothing new in games that offer a lot of skills to choose from. I can see ESO as being a game that I could come back to every once in a while and enjoy, just like TSW but there is nothing the game offers that makes me want to continue paying a sub. I can see why some people would enjoy the game. Its not bad for a medieval fantasy type setting and the voice acting is pretty cool. Im pretty sure im going to unsub after this free 30 days and wait for the bots to be removed and maybe come back to try the small raid content.
To put it into WoW terminology:
If Blizzard were to say that 100M unique subscribers have created 670M characters and logged 20 billion hours would you say that WoW has 100M subscribers? No.
What it would mean is that over its life time there have been 100M subscribers some of whom still subscribe.
And that is what the FFXIV letters mean. It has had 1.8M subscribers over its life - some of whom still subscribe.
How many still subscribe?
Well the 400M hours played number suggests an average of about 220 hours per account. Now whilst some TESO folks have already logged that many hours in less than their 30 days included others will have logged a lot less. Even so super casual players will rack up 220 hours in fairly short order; so an average between "hardcore" and "casual" will be ... something between the included 30 days and 1 extra month say. On average of course - the reality we assume will be that some subscribe for longer and many will leave after the first 30 days.
However it does suggest that the answer is "not that many".
Agree with the crafting part. They should not have made all crafting professions available, but have you choose one. Motifs is too common, they should have been really rare drops.
The point is in February 2014, 1.8 million people created 6.5 million characters and logged over 400 million hours.
So that means 1.8 million subs. Get it?
It was stated in APRIL 2014 that the fame had 2 million registered accounts.
NOBODY IS TALKING ABOUT REGISTERED ACCOUNTS. STOP WITH THAT.
I'm talking about subscribers. Not registered accounts.
These FACTS are 2 seperate thing's.
Look it up. I already posted sources in my other posts. Please read my posts all the way through.Don't read a little of the first post and comment on something that has NOTHING to do with what i'm talking about.
Agreed. Nothing 'great'.... just a filler. Just another game to add to the pile and list. Not the 'end all-be all' I was hoping for. I'll also be staying away from Archage for the same reason.
ArchAge looks decent. Who knows. We'll find out in beta.
As a former ArcheAge player, I have to said XL Game ruined the game completely since it goes free to play. The game itself was incomplete to begin with, lot of missing content. Oh the PVE questing system is the same old text base grind, so don't expect it to be on par with SWTOR,GW2 or ESO, i suspect most ppl will skip the text anyway. And since they go F2P, they streamline the content and basically turns AA into another boring themepark. VERY DISAPPOINTING but i guess that's the consquence for releasing unfinished product to the market (cough cough ESO) The pvp is quite awful and lack of attention from the dev (GW2 and ESO did it better for sure) and sadly i don't see Trion revamp the game to the point it would live up to its expectation. Honestly, Black Desert Online might be more worthy than AA at this point.
Wait a minute. Are we talking about the same game? The game is in alpha. Massively had a contest to win an alpha key a couple days ago. How did you play it? It was just released overseas 2 months ago and it is IP blocked. Check your facts dude. your WAY off with this one.
epic face palm for you moron. Do you even know Archeage was released in Korea and even in Japan for a while already? as a matter of fact the game is somewhat dying/struggling big time now. and I hope you are smart enough to realize MMORPG forum users are not exclusively MURICAN. No disrespect, well maybe a little.
Epic face palm! I just said exactly what you said. Here i'll quote: "It was just released overseas 2 months ago and it is IP blocked." Did you not read my post at all LMAO? No disrespect, well maybe a little. BTW I checked your profile and your not from Korea or Japan or Russia so try again. Again it was stated a thousand times that it is IP blocked. Do I have to post a thousand sources for this too? I like how you all misinterperet everything I say. Like FF XIV has 1.8 million subs. You people are driving me crazy. All you do is troll to death and when I show proof, you guy's rage leave the forums or come back with, "I don't trust Square Enix, their always wrong" or you'll post some forum comment to prove your point when it was posted by some goober that just sits around playing games all day, who has nothing to do with any video game company or journalism. Please stop trolling guy's. I see nobody came back and fought me over the FF thing. THAT was rediculas. Just crazy I tell ya'. EDIT forgive me the game was released in Korea on January 15, 2013 and has also had a closed beta in China. I thought it said January 2014 lol. And I checked again, yes it is IP blocked. See I can admit when i'm wrong, why can't anybody here admit that? It dosent hurt you know. People need to quit trolling. Release date(s) Korea - 15 January 2013, Japan - 23 July 2013,[1] Russia - Open beta, Europe - 2014, North America - 2014 So unless you moved to any of these places, Korea, Japan, and Russia I mean, you have NOT played the game lmao. BTW i'm not a moron. Please stop posting things like that. I reported you because people do not need to be treated like that. Have some respect please and lets keep this thread clean.
There were people playing Korean/Russian Archeage for ages now. Don't know how excactly but there were a lot of EU/US streams if u wanted to check the game out. Also I've been in Archeage alpha for 10 days now myself (and there was an invite wave earlier than that too). SO its possible he got an invite too, if he wasn't playing the foreign versions.
I asked and no he's not in alpha. And nobody has been playing for "ages" the game came out a year ago overseas LMAO.
Source: ArchAge Wikapedia
Allacore69,
I hate to burst your bubble.. im not sure if you are new to playing MMO's outside of your region and/or just trolling but it is actually possible to play Archeage outside of Korea.
I have friends who played it before. Not sure if you ever heard of VPN's but here is a link
http://onlinegamevpn.blogspot.com/2013/05/how-to-play-archeage-outside-korea.html#.U1aTRfldV1A
If you are unsure of what a VPN is.. here is another link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_Private_Network
I also don't understand how you are going to report someone for disrespecting you and then do it right back.. but to each their own i guess. Anyways, hope this clears it up for you.
Also.. I think what people are trying to say about your 1.8 million subscribers that you keep insisting is true.
"As of February 2014, 1.8 million players have created 6.7 million characters and logged over 400 million hours of play time."
What they are stating is that as of that Feb date, 1.8 people had subscribed and made characters but that doesn't mean that they are necessarily subscribed to the game currently. Im going to assume... I may be wrong on this.. that they included my account which I have had since version 1.0. I also played ARR up until right before the new content release last year so they may still have me included in that number.
Sorry to derail the thread.
Concerning ESO, I enjoyed the game for a little bit but it is defintely a game I choose to play as a filler. There is no hook to this game for me. Im not enjoying the fact that there are one skill builds and the balance of builds are way off.... but that's really nothing new in games that offer a lot of skills to choose from. I can see ESO as being a game that I could come back to every once in a while and enjoy, just like TSW but there is nothing the game offers that makes me want to continue paying a sub. I can see why some people would enjoy the game. Its not bad for a medieval fantasy type setting and the voice acting is pretty cool. Im pretty sure im going to unsub after this free 30 days and wait for the bots to be removed and maybe come back to try the small raid content.
"Naoki Yoshida announced, in a Letter from the Producer at TGS, that the game had gained one million unique subscribers."
Source: FF XIV Wikapedia
Nobody is reading anything right. You are all taking it out of context.
Seems like everybody today can not read for crap.
"Sales and subscriptions[edit]
By the end of the first week, the PS3 version of A Realm Reborn was placed second in Japan's sales charts, with 184,000 physical copies sold.[81] By the following day, after the promised maintenance period, the game reached a record of 325,000 concurrent connections, with an estimate of roughly 7,000 per server.[82] Naoki Yoshida announced, in a Letter from the Producer at TGS, that the game had gained one million unique subscribers.[83] As of February 2014, 1.8 million players have created 6.7 million characters and logged over 400 million hours of play time.[84] On April 16, 2014, Square Enix announced that more than two million people have registered an account for the game.[85]
Among the Famitsu 2013 Top 100, a listing of the top 100 Japanese retail software sales for the year of 2013 from data collected by Famitsu's parent company Enterbrain, the PS3 version of Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn ranked number 32, with 244,574 physical retail sales within Japan.[86]"
READ IT VERY CAREFULLY OKAY. GO VERY SLOE IF YOU HAVE TO.
Source: FF XIV Wikapedia
God I feel like i'm posting this over and over.
See how subscribers and registered accounts are 2 very different thing's.
Also do your math and you'll see your numbers and calculations are over 5 million. So what your saying is 5 million subscribers? I don't know what you were trying to do here bet it did not work LMAO.
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Hope that helps.