They are, in my opinion, the BEST MMO´s released in the last years.
Shut your pie hole. You are supposed to pick one to like, and only one.
But seriously, the OP really shouldn't have posted that troll post on this game's forums. This is just going to breed even more resentment and retaliation with certain people.
Having played both and currently playing neither Elder Scrolls is better then Guild Wars 2 in every way. ESO should have been buy to play though like GW2.
given the hours shown playing wow on your profile, how can you seriously expect anyone to take your opinion about either game seriously?
btw, played gw2 and playing eso, having more fun in eso this last few weeks than i had in gw2 at start of that game. just my 2 pence worth (2p > 2c at current exchange rates)
Originally posted by Ardnut
nah, not joined any cult yet. but wow is not exactly a game i'd consider as a good qualification for making a judgement on any other game
btw, anyone know any decent cults against wow?, scientologists excluded, that's not a cult - they are a joke
lol, so what does make you a good qualifant for making your own judgement on a game?
It does show that he is an experienced mmo player, wow is the big boy on the block for 10 years now and it's one of the first games which have started it all. I don't get it where's the hate coming from for wow, it was the best mmorpg for a while and judging by subs it still is. So hold on to your hate-train guys, but hate does make you blind. You don't have to like the game, but being aware of the facts is something totally different.
Now to add my vote... I've racked up a lot of hours in GW2 and I do enjoy the game. It misses some carrots on sticks after a while but it's a good game overal. ESO on the other hand couldn't keep my interest for more than 2-3 hours before I logged out and haven't logged back in since.
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Originally posted by Raquis
you cant compare the 2 ESO is in another class.
GW2 has no exploring only zones you kill these kind of monsters then those.
ESO has exploring to find quests and they are trying to make each quest unique.
I was so bored after getting half way through the game and the worst mistake was no DUNGEON FINDER.
the players begged them for a dungeon finder and hard headed arrogant ncsoft refused.
I will buy GW3 if it comes out but it must be open world not just zone restricted.
GW2 actually encourages you to explore the zones, there's chests for rewarding you if you finish a hidden puzzle or find a semi-dungeon.
Also, they added LFG tool which works perfectly and it's not NCSoft... ArenaNet is the developer, and they never refuse anything. It's the most open and accepting developing team I've encountered in all my years of playing MMORPGs.
"Happiness is not a destination. It is a method of life." -------------------------------
I've played both ~400hrs of GW2 and bout 10d+ currently on ESO and i can say they both have their merits, but ESO's AVA and "Endgame" (which im not in quite yet, but have dont veterans) are far better.
... ArenaNet is the developer, and they never refuse anything. It's the most open and accepting developing team I've encountered in all my years of playing MMORPGs.
... ArenaNet is the developer, and they never refuse anything. It's the most open and accepting developing team I've encountered in all my years of playing MMORPGs.
Except for raids, etc. etc.
You mean instanced, limited lobby raids etc. etc.?
Having played both games, I think GW2 is overall better in terms of environment, gameplay, graphics, and control.
Just my 2 cents.
Also, has no sub doesnt hurt either for GW2
There is absolutely no facts in this post to back up your statement...
If they added the physical annimations ( but certainly not the spelleffects) added the GW2 dynamic comtent system on top of the eso quests"..... Then eso would be a perfect game...
in the end i left GW2 ( which certainly was a fun game). Because
- no progression
- wvwvw zergs
Also why should we forgive problems during launch?
Because many previous games had problems? To me that's not a valid excuse period.
1. You spend $60 - the game should work, the quests (especially MAIN quest) should work, the server shouldn't be down for 14 hours, bank slots deleted - this should not happen ever.
Mass bans (including players who never duped), then unbans of folks who duped too?
There are some things that are very hard to forgive.
I feel that Zenimax does not know and are not ready to host a AAA game - I am not going to give them another shot at this time.
I have no confidence in their ability to run an online game at this time. So I will play out my remaining 2 weeks but no sub from me.- the total lack of trinnity ruined group content
- all the silly expansion stuff turned it intoo a silly game instead of the expected immersive virtual world..
- personal story and living world where below average, and not by far enough to keep people playing..
and a long list of smaller things
Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)
... ArenaNet is the developer, and they never refuse anything. It's the most open and accepting developing team I've encountered in all my years of playing MMORPGs.
Except for raids, etc. etc.
I don't quite get what you want to say with this...
I didn't hear gw2 players outcried for raids and what would be the whole purpose of them since there's no real vertical gear progression? If there were a real demand for raids then forums would be filled with them and there'd be an open discussion about if as with everything else. They added account bound legendaries, they added ascended gear/weapons which people we're curios about and kinda wanted to have something close to legendary gear. I'm not that sure what's etc., etc.
"Happiness is not a destination. It is a method of life." -------------------------------
given the hours shown playing wow on your profile, how can you seriously expect anyone to take your opinion about either game seriously?
btw, played gw2 and playing eso, having more fun in eso this last few weeks than i had in gw2 at start of that game. just my 2 pence worth (2p > 2c at current exchange rates)
Don't diss WoW. What MMO did you play that makes your opinion account? WoW is/was great.
@OP, I managed to get to level 80 in GW2, I am at the point of quitting ESO at level 20.
Mission in life: Vanquish all MMORPG.com trolls - especially TESO, WOW and GW2 trolls.
given the hours shown playing wow on your profile, how can you seriously expect anyone to take your opinion about either game seriously?
btw, played gw2 and playing eso, having more fun in eso this last few weeks than i had in gw2 at start of that game. just my 2 pence worth (2p > 2c at current exchange rates)
Don't diss WoW. What MMO did you play that makes your opinion account? WoW is/was great.
@OP, I managed to get to level 80 in GW2, I am at the point of quitting ESO at level 20.
The time it takes you to hit 20 in ESO, you can hit 80 in GW2. That's not a positive in my book either.
Joined 2004 - I can't believe I've been a MMORPG.com member for 20 years! Get off my lawn!
GW2 is a good game, 1800 hours on it. But it's far too casual, it lacks longevity. I stopped playing 3 times for a few months, the only thing that made me go back was how much I missed doing WvW with my guild, but how visible it is the lack of focus on WvW while shitty story gets all the updates made me quit.
I'm here having as much fun as I had on GW2, but in here I have more hope that they will put meaningfull content instead of only focusing on putting new things on the gem store.
Jokes aside, GW2 at launch was the best MMO experience I've had. The game was absolutely phenomenal and still would be if it wasn't for the MASSIVE amount of restrictions they put on players now. It hurts, literally, to see ArenaNet butcher that masterpiece every patch.
I have to laugh, the first really dumb mistake ArenaNet made with GW2 was putting a cap on AoEs basically destroying any chance a small organized force would have against a much larger force. I'll be darned if ZOS isn't doing the same thing with ESO.
Originally posted by flizzer I'm fine with no raids in GW2. I don't think there is a huge desire for raids via the forums either.
Because all the players who desired it has long left the game.
That's to be expected. That's not a problem for those that still play GW2 though. Just like people leaving ESO for lack of sandbox (Elder Scrolls) gameplay. Those that have desired that have since left the game or never bought it to begin with.
I have GW2, ESO, TSW, Wildstar and Gloria Victis currently installed on my PC. I don't have time to play them all ( I don't have time to play more than one, really ), but I can switch the one I'm playing from time to time.
Wildstar was just for last two beta-weekends, to try it out.
Gloria Victis is an indy MMO in alpha stage, so can't compare it to others really.
GW2, ESO and even TSW are similar in many ways. GW2 is most fun when exploring the world, doing jumping puzzles, fighting in small scale PvP, mabey in WvW, but games engine can't really handle it well and it's rather repetetive. It has beutifull, original art style and very nice graphics, but not as nice as ESO, imho. There's not much to be excited about in terms of character progression and development. ESO is great for questing, immersion, character progression, crafting. It has great engine and graphics. Also, it's simply huge. TSW is similar to ESO wih its voice-overs, focus on questing, 3 factions, open character progression, but on much smaller scale and in completely different setting.
Arguing wich one is better is just pointless. It's smply a question of taste and you can easily play and switch between two or three games.
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Shut your pie hole. You are supposed to pick one to like, and only one.
But seriously, the OP really shouldn't have posted that troll post on this game's forums. This is just going to breed even more resentment and retaliation with certain people.
"If I offended you, you needed it" -Corey Taylor
you cant compare the 2 ESO is in another class.
GW2 has no exploring only zones you kill these kind of monsters then those.
ESO has exploring to find quests and they are trying to make each quest unique.
I was so bored after getting half way through the game and the worst mistake was no DUNGEON FINDER.
the players begged them for a dungeon finder and hard headed arrogant ncsoft refused.
I will buy GW3 if it comes out but it must be open world not just zone restricted.
If you compaire the game for me ESO is better
But I had friends playing GW2 with me, so I had more fun in GW2. No friends in ESO
lol, so what does make you a good qualifant for making your own judgement on a game?
It does show that he is an experienced mmo player, wow is the big boy on the block for 10 years now and it's one of the first games which have started it all. I don't get it where's the hate coming from for wow, it was the best mmorpg for a while and judging by subs it still is. So hold on to your hate-train guys, but hate does make you blind. You don't have to like the game, but being aware of the facts is something totally different.
Now to add my vote... I've racked up a lot of hours in GW2 and I do enjoy the game. It misses some carrots on sticks after a while but it's a good game overal. ESO on the other hand couldn't keep my interest for more than 2-3 hours before I logged out and haven't logged back in since.
EDIT:
GW2 actually encourages you to explore the zones, there's chests for rewarding you if you finish a hidden puzzle or find a semi-dungeon.
Also, they added LFG tool which works perfectly and it's not NCSoft... ArenaNet is the developer, and they never refuse anything. It's the most open and accepting developing team I've encountered in all my years of playing MMORPGs.
"Happiness is not a destination. It is a method of life."
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"Happiness is not a destination. It is a method of life."
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Except for raids, etc. etc.
You mean instanced, limited lobby raids etc. etc.?
There is absolutely no facts in this post to back up your statement...
If they added the physical annimations ( but certainly not the spelleffects) added the GW2 dynamic comtent system on top of the eso quests"..... Then eso would be a perfect game...
in the end i left GW2 ( which certainly was a fun game). Because
- no progression
- wvwvw zergs
Also why should we forgive problems during launch?
Because many previous games had problems? To me that's not a valid excuse period.
1. You spend $60 - the game should work, the quests (especially MAIN quest) should work, the server shouldn't be down for 14 hours, bank slots deleted - this should not happen ever.
Mass bans (including players who never duped), then unbans of folks who duped too?
There are some things that are very hard to forgive.
I feel that Zenimax does not know and are not ready to host a AAA game - I am not going to give them another shot at this time.
I have no confidence in their ability to run an online game at this time. So I will play out my remaining 2 weeks but no sub from me.- the total lack of trinnity ruined group content
- all the silly expansion stuff turned it intoo a silly game instead of the expected immersive virtual world..
- personal story and living world where below average, and not by far enough to keep people playing..
and a long list of smaller things
Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)
I don't quite get what you want to say with this...
I didn't hear gw2 players outcried for raids and what would be the whole purpose of them since there's no real vertical gear progression? If there were a real demand for raids then forums would be filled with them and there'd be an open discussion about if as with everything else. They added account bound legendaries, they added ascended gear/weapons which people we're curios about and kinda wanted to have something close to legendary gear. I'm not that sure what's etc., etc.
"Happiness is not a destination. It is a method of life."
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ESO is GW2 done right IMHO.
Better skill system
Better world exploration
Better crafting
Better combat system
Better quests
Joined 2004 - I can't believe I've been a MMORPG.com member for 20 years! Get off my lawn!
Don't diss WoW. What MMO did you play that makes your opinion account? WoW is/was great.
@OP, I managed to get to level 80 in GW2, I am at the point of quitting ESO at level 20.
Mission in life: Vanquish all MMORPG.com trolls - especially TESO, WOW and GW2 trolls.
Enjoyment of playing GW2 = 2.5 out of 5
Enjoyment of playing ESO = 4 out of 5
Need any more arguments?
The time it takes you to hit 20 in ESO, you can hit 80 in GW2. That's not a positive in my book either.
Joined 2004 - I can't believe I've been a MMORPG.com member for 20 years! Get off my lawn!
Because all the players who desired it has long left the game.
GW2 is a good game, 1800 hours on it. But it's far too casual, it lacks longevity. I stopped playing 3 times for a few months, the only thing that made me go back was how much I missed doing WvW with my guild, but how visible it is the lack of focus on WvW while shitty story gets all the updates made me quit.
I'm here having as much fun as I had on GW2, but in here I have more hope that they will put meaningfull content instead of only focusing on putting new things on the gem store.
ESO > Present GW2
.................................
Dog Feces > Present GW2
Jokes aside, GW2 at launch was the best MMO experience I've had. The game was absolutely phenomenal and still would be if it wasn't for the MASSIVE amount of restrictions they put on players now. It hurts, literally, to see ArenaNet butcher that masterpiece every patch.
I have to laugh, the first really dumb mistake ArenaNet made with GW2 was putting a cap on AoEs basically destroying any chance a small organized force would have against a much larger force. I'll be darned if ZOS isn't doing the same thing with ESO.
It's like these developers never learn.
That's to be expected. That's not a problem for those that still play GW2 though. Just like people leaving ESO for lack of sandbox (Elder Scrolls) gameplay. Those that have desired that have since left the game or never bought it to begin with.
"If I offended you, you needed it" -Corey Taylor
I have GW2, ESO, TSW, Wildstar and Gloria Victis currently installed on my PC. I don't have time to play them all ( I don't have time to play more than one, really ), but I can switch the one I'm playing from time to time.
Wildstar was just for last two beta-weekends, to try it out.
Gloria Victis is an indy MMO in alpha stage, so can't compare it to others really.
GW2, ESO and even TSW are similar in many ways. GW2 is most fun when exploring the world, doing jumping puzzles, fighting in small scale PvP, mabey in WvW, but games engine can't really handle it well and it's rather repetetive. It has beutifull, original art style and very nice graphics, but not as nice as ESO, imho. There's not much to be excited about in terms of character progression and development. ESO is great for questing, immersion, character progression, crafting. It has great engine and graphics. Also, it's simply huge. TSW is similar to ESO wih its voice-overs, focus on questing, 3 factions, open character progression, but on much smaller scale and in completely different setting.
Arguing wich one is better is just pointless. It's smply a question of taste and you can easily play and switch between two or three games.