I didn't enjoy the game all that much. I purchased the Imperial Edition on a whim, and the game was meh to me.
Luckily I read a post on here about how to get a refund. I disputed the charge through Paypal this morning, and they refunded my money before I got home from work.
If anyone else is going the path I did just make sure you say it was falsely advertised/buggy and what not. They were very quick about getting it resolved.
To those of you who enjoy the game, I am glad you do. It isn't a terrible game, it just wasn't anything "new and exciting" for me. Combat was meh. I played a Nightblade so the majority of my skills were broken, and made it play pretty bad for me.
Having a decent enough time so far, so will be keeping the sub going for a bit.
ZoS appears to be making a serious effort so I shall give them a chance.
There are 3 types of people in the world. 1.) Those who make things happen 2.) Those who watch things happen 3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
I unsubbed a couple of days ago. Good enough game, but once again, I hit the mid-30s and became disinterested. Themeparks and I apparently don't get along very well beyond 3-4 weeks.
I love how these posts always pop up after each new controversy. I don't believe for a moment that these are just your everyday posters; the posts are too carefully worded to address all of the issues. Quite frankly, this is just viral marketing at its worst.
All of these posters basically say the same thing:
"ZOS acknowledges the issues.
ZOS acknowledges player angst.
ZOS is fixing everything.
Trust ZOS. Love ZOS. Believe in ZOS. Send money."
No.
Fix things first. Then call me. Then I'll be happy to send money. Not until then.
ZOS' behavior to date hasn't exactly built a lot of trust.
Good to know someone understands how the real world works. You don't support bad products and hope it gets better. Companies make good products and earn support.
i am vet 4 atm , almost vet5 and its hell of a grind those vet ranks man, I really need to force my self to play the quests, those are basically the only way to lvl vet ranks the fastest way and the only way i think. i am only doing this because i want to anticipate in Craglorn, and here for u need to be vet rank 10. But i am not sure if i will overcome the grind to Vet 10. I love the game, but this is way to much to endure this grindfest.
I find it funny a lot of these people who don't like the game and complain about bugs or grouping, never even made it to VR10 (max level) Where all the grouping activies like dungeons the size of entire zones with questlines in them tailored just for group play. Also they rushed up at launch during millions of people trying to do quests and ran into bugs on their way up, instead of just waiting a week for the bottle neck that caused the bugs in quests to be cleared and ready for bug free questing.
I have to admit right now is the time to start playing if you have been waiting, since the bottleneck is now cleared up, while the zones are still pretty full in the starter zone and up, Its no where near as bad as it was on launch and quests are no longer buggy because of too many people doing them at once. Hope that helps. If you waited till now to buy to avoid bugs, then you did the right thing, but I can declare to you that it is good enough now to buy and bugs are not happening in quests anymore.
i am vet 4 atm , almost vet5 and its hell of a grind those vet ranks man, I really need to force my self to play the quests, those are basically the only way to lvl vet ranks the fastest way and the only way i think. i am only doing this because i want to anticipate in Craglorn, and here for u need to be vet rank 10. But i am not sure if i will overcome the grind to Vet 10. I love the game, but this is way to much to endure this grindfest.
I'm a RPG kind of guy, and I play games for storylines. When played WoW the quests storyline to me was uninstresting and had no real immersion, when I got to 73 I noticed every quest was the same and the storys really did not even feel like an adventure or story to me. I quit WoW at 73.
I look at this from my point of view from WoW gameplaying. If you are the kind of person who absolutely hates quests, you are just like me when I played WoW quests, and you probably wont make it very far unless you "SUFFER" your way though it. I just so happen to love the questing in ESO, and hope it never ends ever from a RPG point of view. I will make it to max level, taking my time, and subbing many months and not even feel any kind of "SUFFERING" factor to the leveling process.
So as you can see, if you don't like quests, or cannot get into the feel of it, your going to hate this game or at the least get frustrated with the game and most likely quit unless you can make it to max level for the raids, vetren dungeons, and Adventure Zones which also contain "SUFFERING"... I mean questlines, for you to do.
I find it funny a lot of these people who don't like the game and complain about bugs or grouping, never even made it to VR10 (max level) Where all the grouping activies like dungeons the size of entire zones with questlines in them tailored just for group play. Also they rushed up at launch during millions of people trying to do quests and ran into bugs on their way up, instead of just waiting a week for the bottle neck that caused the bugs in quests to be cleared and ready for bug free questing.
I have to admit right now is the time to start playing if you have been waiting, since the bottleneck is now cleared up, while the zones are still pretty full in the starter zone and up, Its no where near as bad as it was on launch and quests are no longer buggy because of too many people doing them at once. Hope that helps. If you waited till now to buy to avoid bugs, then you did the right thing, but I can declare to you that it is good enough now to buy and bugs are not happening in quests anymore.
In your 1st sentence you say you don't understand why people complain about grouping issues. Then in the 2nd sentence you say it's good at VR10 where activities are tailored.
I don't understand how you don't see it.
I mean maybe I misunderstood what you are trying to say, but if I understand it, that's a bad design.
I find it funny a lot of these people who don't like the game and complain about bugs or grouping, never even made it to VR10 (max level) Where all the grouping activies like dungeons the size of entire zones with questlines in them tailored just for group play. Also they rushed up at launch during millions of people trying to do quests and ran into bugs on their way up, instead of just waiting a week for the bottle neck that caused the bugs in quests to be cleared and ready for bug free questing.
I have to admit right now is the time to start playing if you have been waiting, since the bottleneck is now cleared up, while the zones are still pretty full in the starter zone and up, Its no where near as bad as it was on launch and quests are no longer buggy because of too many people doing them at once. Hope that helps. If you waited till now to buy to avoid bugs, then you did the right thing, but I can declare to you that it is good enough now to buy and bugs are not happening in quests anymore.
In your 1st sentence you say you don't understand why people complain about grouping issues. Then in the 2nd sentence you say it's good at VR10 where activities are tailored.
I don't understand how you don't see it.
I mean maybe I misunderstood what you are trying to say, but if I understand it, that's a bad design.
What I am saying there, is that I don't understand why 1st sentence exists when 2nd sentence fixes all the problems of the 1st sentence at max level.
I find it funny a lot of these people who don't like the game and complain about bugs or grouping, never even made it to VR10 (max level) Where all the grouping activies like dungeons the size of entire zones with questlines in them tailored just for group play. Also they rushed up at launch during millions of people trying to do quests and ran into bugs on their way up, instead of just waiting a week for the bottle neck that caused the bugs in quests to be cleared and ready for bug free questing.
I have to admit right now is the time to start playing if you have been waiting, since the bottleneck is now cleared up, while the zones are still pretty full in the starter zone and up, Its no where near as bad as it was on launch and quests are no longer buggy because of too many people doing them at once. Hope that helps. If you waited till now to buy to avoid bugs, then you did the right thing, but I can declare to you that it is good enough now to buy and bugs are not happening in quests anymore.
In your 1st sentence you say you don't understand why people complain about grouping issues. Then in the 2nd sentence you say it's good at VR10 where activities are tailored.
I don't understand how you don't see it.
I mean maybe I misunderstood what you are trying to say, but if I understand it, that's a bad design.
What I am saying there, is that I don't understand why 1st sentence exists when 2nd sentence fixes all the problems of the 1st sentence at max level.
If the journey to "fun" is too long, people will stop that journey before reaching their destination.
This is even more pronounced in games. If it is not fun after a while, people stop playing and start complaining. And rightfully so. Peronally, if a game does not suck me in after 15min, i usually uninstall it. So many games out there that are really fun, no time to waste on worse games, right? And i know MMOs need more time, but from what i have read in this topic, most people spend a LITTLE more then 15 min.
ESO really has two very weak spots. Leveling in a group sucks. Leveling solo sucks as well if you dislike questgrinds.
MMOs finally replaced social interaction, forced grouping and standing in a line while talking to eachother.
Now we have forced soloing, forced questing and everyone is the hero, without ever having to talk to anyone else. The evolution of multiplayer is here! We won,... right?
VR2 unsubbed and kept the game on my computer, loved 1-50 with my Dagger Covenant DK tank but i HATE having to leveling through AD/Ebonheart which i don't want to in the first damn place.
Veteran ranks are for lack of a better word, a sludge pit. You don't even get more powerful as you grind through VR 1-10 and it's just not fun having to walk through all these damn AD quest for zero reward and a veteran rank that doesn't even make you feel like you're even getting any stronger because you're not.
Disapointed. Had such a great time until i hit VR1...they need to remove Veteran ranks and make Craglorn level 50. But i do have a bit of faith with the new patch and the XP boost that it speeds up things but i highly doubt it.
I'm a RPG kind of guy, and I play games for storylines. When played WoW the quests storyline to me was uninstresting and had no real immersion, when I got to 73 I noticed every quest was the same and the storys really did not even feel like an adventure or story to me. I quit WoW at 73.
I look at this from my point of view from WoW gameplaying. If you are the kind of person who absolutely hates quests, you are just like me when I played WoW quests, and you probably wont make it very far unless you "SUFFER" your way though it. I just so happen to love the questing in ESO, and hope it never ends ever from a RPG point of view. I will make it to max level, taking my time, and subbing many months and not even feel any kind of "SUFFERING" factor to the leveling process.
So as you can see, if you don't like quests, or cannot get into the feel of it, your going to hate this game or at the least get frustrated with the game and most likely quit unless you can make it to max level for the raids, vetren dungeons, and Adventure Zones which also contain "SUFFERING"... I mean questlines, for you to do.
If the journey to "fun" is too long, people will stop that journey before reaching their destination.This is even more pronounced in games. If it is not fun after a while, people stop playing and start complaining. And rightfully so. Peronally, if a game does not suck me in after 15min, i usually uninstall it. So many games out there that are really fun, no time to waste on worse games, right? And i know MMOs need more time, but from what i have read in this topic, most people spend a LITTLE more then 15 min.ESO really has two very weak spots. Leveling in a group sucks. Leveling solo sucks as well if you dislike questgrinds.
I whole heartly agree with you, its just like WoW and 73 with me.
I'm staying subbed. I'm currently VR3 and having a lot of fun. Love seeing the Aldmeri zones at the moment with my DC templar :-) It's really nice that I don't have to create alts in order to experience all these other quests.
Now ZOS did state that they would be looking at moving the eu server "in the future", but that may come too late for frustrated people who simply move on.
First impression time is critical and can be very influential when it comes to resubbing decisions.
I resubbed, I totally get that VR will be a wall for some people, but I don't think it's such a bad thing. I know MMO's have moved away from the ONE MAIN philosophy in favor of a stable of max level alts, but VR looks like it might limit players desire to level multiple alts.
On top of that game has barely been out a month, yes a small number of people are VR10, but it should be another 2-3 weeks for the bulk of players to move through that content. I don't see that as a negative. So many MMO's come out, you cap in 2 weeks and then the forums are flooded with, "So what do I do now?" The slower progression in VR has pushed back that timeline and dedicating that much more time to your character just means people will be that much more attached to it.
Also, it promotes a "shared suffering". When you hear people reminisce about older MMO's, even though they have mechanics that involved corpse runs, running away from mob trains, spending hours camping a spawn and various other design conventions that have since disappeared, they all revolve around the same principle - shared suffering. When the community has to endure something it holds them together more than it otherwise would have.
I expect to see the playerbase drop on sub day, it'll be interesting to see the next 5 months how ESO fares.
Now that the Dominion is beginning to be competitive in the Bloodthorn campaign, I'm definitely sticking around until we can right all the wrongs and have the true master race on top where it should be...
Not going anywhere
This ^^^
"The King and the Pawn return to the same box at the end of the game"
I'm not much of a console gamer, but when I buy one, I tend to beat the game rather quickly. Thus, without consistent "good" console game releases; I wouldn't really be able to play any good games without MMOs.
ESO, to me, is worth the sub. For how long? Who knows. It definitely isn't EQ1 or WOW worthy (those were my longest subs). More than likely, it'll last another 2- months for me. Maybe (maybe) longer if I join a good PVP guild.
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I didn't enjoy the game all that much. I purchased the Imperial Edition on a whim, and the game was meh to me.
Luckily I read a post on here about how to get a refund. I disputed the charge through Paypal this morning, and they refunded my money before I got home from work.
If anyone else is going the path I did just make sure you say it was falsely advertised/buggy and what not. They were very quick about getting it resolved.
To those of you who enjoy the game, I am glad you do. It isn't a terrible game, it just wasn't anything "new and exciting" for me. Combat was meh. I played a Nightblade so the majority of my skills were broken, and made it play pretty bad for me.
I will change my 3 months sub to 1. I belive that would be enough to get to lvl 50.
On my second account I will not resub. Its a friends account that I paid for, but we havent been able to play together so he lost interest.
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Having a decent enough time so far, so will be keeping the sub going for a bit.
ZoS appears to be making a serious effort so I shall give them a chance.
There are 3 types of people in the world.
1.) Those who make things happen
2.) Those who watch things happen
3.) And those who wonder "What the %#*& just happened?!"
Good to know someone understands how the real world works. You don't support bad products and hope it gets better. Companies make good products and earn support.
i am vet 4 atm , almost vet5 and its hell of a grind those vet ranks man, I really need to force my self to play the quests, those are basically the only way to lvl vet ranks the fastest way and the only way i think. i am only doing this because i want to anticipate in Craglorn, and here for u need to be vet rank 10. But i am not sure if i will overcome the grind to Vet 10. I love the game, but this is way to much to endure this grindfest.
I find it funny a lot of these people who don't like the game and complain about bugs or grouping, never even made it to VR10 (max level) Where all the grouping activies like dungeons the size of entire zones with questlines in them tailored just for group play. Also they rushed up at launch during millions of people trying to do quests and ran into bugs on their way up, instead of just waiting a week for the bottle neck that caused the bugs in quests to be cleared and ready for bug free questing.
I have to admit right now is the time to start playing if you have been waiting, since the bottleneck is now cleared up, while the zones are still pretty full in the starter zone and up, Its no where near as bad as it was on launch and quests are no longer buggy because of too many people doing them at once. Hope that helps. If you waited till now to buy to avoid bugs, then you did the right thing, but I can declare to you that it is good enough now to buy and bugs are not happening in quests anymore.
I'm a RPG kind of guy, and I play games for storylines. When played WoW the quests storyline to me was uninstresting and had no real immersion, when I got to 73 I noticed every quest was the same and the storys really did not even feel like an adventure or story to me. I quit WoW at 73.
I look at this from my point of view from WoW gameplaying. If you are the kind of person who absolutely hates quests, you are just like me when I played WoW quests, and you probably wont make it very far unless you "SUFFER" your way though it. I just so happen to love the questing in ESO, and hope it never ends ever from a RPG point of view. I will make it to max level, taking my time, and subbing many months and not even feel any kind of "SUFFERING" factor to the leveling process.
So as you can see, if you don't like quests, or cannot get into the feel of it, your going to hate this game or at the least get frustrated with the game and most likely quit unless you can make it to max level for the raids, vetren dungeons, and Adventure Zones which also contain "SUFFERING"... I mean questlines, for you to do.
In your 1st sentence you say you don't understand why people complain about grouping issues. Then in the 2nd sentence you say it's good at VR10 where activities are tailored.
I don't understand how you don't see it.
I mean maybe I misunderstood what you are trying to say, but if I understand it, that's a bad design.
What I am saying there, is that I don't understand why 1st sentence exists when 2nd sentence fixes all the problems of the 1st sentence at max level.
If the journey to "fun" is too long, people will stop that journey before reaching their destination.
This is even more pronounced in games. If it is not fun after a while, people stop playing and start complaining. And rightfully so. Peronally, if a game does not suck me in after 15min, i usually uninstall it. So many games out there that are really fun, no time to waste on worse games, right? And i know MMOs need more time, but from what i have read in this topic, most people spend a LITTLE more then 15 min.
ESO really has two very weak spots. Leveling in a group sucks. Leveling solo sucks as well if you dislike questgrinds.
MMOs finally replaced social interaction, forced grouping and standing in a line while talking to eachother.
Now we have forced soloing, forced questing and everyone is the hero, without ever having to talk to anyone else. The evolution of multiplayer is here! We won,... right?
VR2 unsubbed and kept the game on my computer, loved 1-50 with my Dagger Covenant DK tank but i HATE having to leveling through AD/Ebonheart which i don't want to in the first damn place.
Veteran ranks are for lack of a better word, a sludge pit. You don't even get more powerful as you grind through VR 1-10 and it's just not fun having to walk through all these damn AD quest for zero reward and a veteran rank that doesn't even make you feel like you're even getting any stronger because you're not.
Disapointed. Had such a great time until i hit VR1...they need to remove Veteran ranks and make Craglorn level 50. But i do have a bit of faith with the new patch and the XP boost that it speeds up things but i highly doubt it.
I whole heartly agree with you, its just like WoW and 73 with me.
I unsubbed. Need to rest up for Wildstar. Will probably be back after I'm done with Wildstar in about 2 months.
Or I might just move on to Archeage.
Any graphical, audio, or gameplay restrictions not seen in other mmos but found in FFXIV can be blamed on one thing.
PS3
I wonder how many times you'll be making that same post in the next 10 years or so ?
Hodor!
If you have a good bunch of players even an average MMORPG can be fun.
No questions about it.
Personally I just can't stand the game any longer after having a V3 and lv30ish alt.
Going to take atleast few months off (Playing Wildstar launch in between) and probably checking ESO again after that.
Hopefully they make smart choices about where they are taking the game.
This is why myself and (insert number here) other eu players are leaving it until they do something with the eu server location.
This is only one post of many.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/89461/latency-on-the-european-megaserver-looking-for-additional-info#latest
Now ZOS did state that they would be looking at moving the eu server "in the future", but that may come too late for frustrated people who simply move on.
First impression time is critical and can be very influential when it comes to resubbing decisions.
I resubbed, I totally get that VR will be a wall for some people, but I don't think it's such a bad thing. I know MMO's have moved away from the ONE MAIN philosophy in favor of a stable of max level alts, but VR looks like it might limit players desire to level multiple alts.
On top of that game has barely been out a month, yes a small number of people are VR10, but it should be another 2-3 weeks for the bulk of players to move through that content. I don't see that as a negative. So many MMO's come out, you cap in 2 weeks and then the forums are flooded with, "So what do I do now?" The slower progression in VR has pushed back that timeline and dedicating that much more time to your character just means people will be that much more attached to it.
Also, it promotes a "shared suffering". When you hear people reminisce about older MMO's, even though they have mechanics that involved corpse runs, running away from mob trains, spending hours camping a spawn and various other design conventions that have since disappeared, they all revolve around the same principle - shared suffering. When the community has to endure something it holds them together more than it otherwise would have.
I expect to see the playerbase drop on sub day, it'll be interesting to see the next 5 months how ESO fares.
This ^^^
I'm not much of a console gamer, but when I buy one, I tend to beat the game rather quickly. Thus, without consistent "good" console game releases; I wouldn't really be able to play any good games without MMOs.
ESO, to me, is worth the sub. For how long? Who knows. It definitely isn't EQ1 or WOW worthy (those were my longest subs). More than likely, it'll last another 2- months for me. Maybe (maybe) longer if I join a good PVP guild.
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Played: Everything
Playing: Nioh 2, Civ6
Wants: The World
Anticipating: Everquest Next Crowfall, Pantheon, Elden Ring