Found a Gank/PK/Grief Guide

Informer80 · May 2014

Hey guys, take a look at this beauty here, found at the official forums!
http://forums.archeagegame.com/showthread.php?6328-Nasty-Gaming-Gank-PK-Griefplay-Guide-ger-eng

My German is horrible, but Google Translate does the job.

The author is absolutely correct, i can confirm all the methods posted there are working in Russia and Korea!

This guide is so nasty! Finally a game made for gankers and griefers

zytin · May 2014

Originally posted by coretex666
So a game with OW FFA PvP (with certain regulatory mechanisms in place, e.g. jail) is automatically a game for gankers / griefers?

I have also noticed that some posters consider people who are in favor of having this sort of PvP in an MMORPG to be automatically griefers as well and they do not hesitate to refer to them as griefers in their posts.

Of course there will be individuals who will try to take advantage of this design and cause harm to other players, but it does not justify the mentality described above.

I consider these people to be wrong and limited to an extent that they are unable to entertain a possibility that some people may want OW FFA PvP in their games for other reason than to cause other players unnecessary harm via ganking / griefing.

I would not care about this mentality at all if these people did not spread it trying to promote it as truth.

The right answer would be: yes, there will definitely be some ganking / griefing going on in this game. Is that a deal breaker for you? That is fine, then just do what adults do in such situation, ignore the game and move on.

TL;DR

If you don't like being griefed/ganked by people like me, then stop crying about it and go play somewhere else.

flizzer · May 2014

And we are suprised? About what? Of course this is a griefer's dream game as I have posted elsewhere. PvE oriented players need to stay away from this title or petition for a PvE only server, although I have heard Trion has said there will not be PvE servers.

Yes, there are people who PvP who may not fit this definition of griefer's (or as I call them, the bottom feeders of the MMO community) but , lets face it, that is what these games degenerate in to. As someone else so succintly described it. These people are much like a virus and and destroy the host. After months they look around and wonder why all the people have left. Thus is the fate of so many of these open PvP griefing games.

zytin · May 2014

Originally posted by coretex666
Originally posted by zytin
Originally posted by coretex666
So a game with OW FFA PvP (with certain regulatory mechanisms in place, e.g. jail) is automatically a game for gankers / griefers?

I have also noticed that some posters consider people who are in favor of having this sort of PvP in an MMORPG to be automatically griefers as well and they do not hesitate to refer to them as griefers in their posts.

Of course there will be individuals who will try to take advantage of this design and cause harm to other players, but it does not justify the mentality described above.

I consider these people to be wrong and limited to an extent that they are unable to entertain a possibility that some people may want OW FFA PvP in their games for other reason than to cause other players unnecessary harm via ganking / griefing.

I would not care about this mentality at all if these people did not spread it trying to promote it as truth.

The right answer would be: yes, there will definitely be some ganking / griefing going on in this game. Is that a deal breaker for you? That is fine, then just do what adults do in such situation, ignore the game and move on.

TL;DR

If you don't like being griefed/ganked by people like me, then stop crying about it and go play somewhere else.

Incorrect summary.

I think the OP is happy that it is a griefer friendly game.

MamasGun · May 2014

Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard
Sounds like the same kind of pathetic life forms than "The Goons". That kind of people deserve a good "real life" beating in my opinion, they are cowards who hide behind video games to do what they don't dare to do in reality. Those who do it in reality are already bad enough but at least they have balls, those who hide behind a computer screen to do it are just the bottom of humanity's trashcan.

Can I elect you King of the Internet?

Also, anyone who proudly wears the term "Griefer" as a way to describe themself is just... not the type of human being I want procreating.

Informer80 · May 2014

Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard
PvP is NOT mandatory in AA

Of course not, if you like to stay in the safe zones excluding you from 80% of the landmass including 100% of the open sea

General-Zod · May 2014

This is a Godsend

*You have now received the blueprint on how a griefer plans to ruin your day*

Google translate is your friend, I suggest all players that plan on playing this game read through this and be ready.

flizzer · May 2014

This will ignite a struggle for PvE players to petition Trion to allow us to play ArcheAge without being harassed by griefers. I propose simply making the Northern Continent PvP or having seperate servers.

Necropsie · May 2014

Originally posted by MamasGun
Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard
Sounds like the same kind of pathetic life forms than "The Goons". That kind of people deserve a good "real life" beating in my opinion, they are cowards who hide behind video games to do what they don't dare to do in reality. Those who do it in reality are already bad enough but at least they have balls, those who hide behind a computer screen to do it are just the bottom of humanity's trashcan.

Can I elect you King of the Internet?

Also, anyone who proudly wears the term "Griefer" as a way to describe themself is just... not the type of human being I want procreating.

Can i say you both win the internet?

No, honestly, you did.

Any game that allows "griefers" roaming around freely will ruin in the end. Just a couple months after, there will be no player base other then "griefers" and.. well, that locust swarm will just lurk into another game.

General-Zod · May 2014

Originally posted by flizzer
This will ignite a struggle for PvE players to petition Trion to allow us to play ArcheAge without being harassed by griefers. I propose simply making the Northern Continent PvP or having seperate servers.

Wouldn't it be easier for you just to do a little reading?

Guess what, there are bad people in the world and somebody won't always be there to cut the corners of your bread. You could copy and paste the entire guide into google translate and read it a whole lot faster than the developers could write some codes in the game just to make you feel comfortable playing.

I mean, come on people...

Informer80 · May 2014

Originally posted by flizzer
This will ignite a struggle for PvE players to petition Trion to allow us to play ArcheAge without being harassed by griefers. I propose simply making the Northern Continent PvP or having seperate servers.

You can´t be serious.

A trade system without PvP?

An4thor · May 2014

Trion won't make separate servers nor change how PvP works. Get over it already...either you like it, or you get to like it or you move on something else you loke more.

CandyCaneNJ · May 2014

Originally posted by Informer80
Originally posted by flizzer
This will ignite a struggle for PvE players to petition Trion to allow us to play ArcheAge without being harassed by griefers. I propose simply making the Northern Continent PvP or having seperate servers.

You can´t be serious.

A trade system without PvP?

Wow, imagine that. A place for people to do whatever they want without idiotic gankers deliberately killing them. Shocking! People actually don't want to be killed over and over for no reason at all. People want to have fun! Wowzers!

An4thor · May 2014

No reason at all? It's a risk/profit mechanic you are asking fot a pink and fluffy world where everyone is rich and the highest threat is the dumb mob AI. No thanks move onto something else (not that it will ever become what you are asking for).

An4thor · May 2014

I doubt trion really consider having separate servers as a bigger income source or they would have made them without much hassle. Considering the amount of players playing alpha at the moment they made HUGE profits, with a f2p game. Yeah not everyone bought into alpha; but the majority did.
All of this without changing anything from the korean pre 1.0 (someone might correct me here).
The ones asking for a major game breaking pointless change (i could add more to stress how bad it would be) are the vocal minority.
Everyone who is getting into AA knows that it's mainly a PvP game. AA without PvP would be just your everyday korean crap. PvP is what make of this game a fantastic game, and i'm telling you this as a PvE player.

Trading, everything happening in the north continent, sailing, pirating; basically what AA is about, turns around PvP.
Trion knows VERY well what a huge mistake it would be to add PvE servers; because without PvP everyone would quit the game after reaching 50 and getting a house.
PvP is what makes this game thrilling even for PvErs, at least those who like AA. Those who don't like PvP are saying they don't like AA as AA can't exist without PvP.

Making PvE servers would make trion gain the few people interested in PvE only and these very same people would quit after a few weeks due to boredom.
So no, these players would only make trion waste server resources.

CandyCaneNJ · May 2014

Originally posted by An4thor
No reason at all? It's a risk/profit mechanic you are asking fot a pink and fluffy world where everyone is rich and the highest threat is the dumb mob AI. No thanks move onto something else (not that it will ever become what you are asking for).

Yes, no reason at all. You are not only severely narrow minded but your world view is even more restricted.

ive been gaming since the 1980's and seen enough idiots doing stupid things to harm others for no reason, other than ruin a person's day.

I suggest you approach reality, learn tolerance and accept others will disagree with you.

Hariken · May 2014

Originally posted by Informer80
Hey guys, take a look at this beauty here, found at the official forums!
http://forums.archeagegame.com/showthread.php?6328-Nasty-Gaming-Gank-PK-Griefplay-Guide-ger-eng

My German is horrible, but Google Translate does the job.

The author is absolutely correct, i can confirm all the methods posted there are working in Russia and Korea!

This guide is so nasty! Finally a game made for gankers and griefers

This game makes me laugh. But pvper's finally got their game. Good luck i hope it doesn't crash and burn like most of them. You guys deserve to have a game for you for a change. I think their should be more pvp mmo's so non focus pvp mmo's can stop wasting resouces on it and stop nerfing the heck out of there games.

karat76 · May 2014

Originally posted by General-Zod
Originally posted by flizzer
This will ignite a struggle for PvE players to petition Trion to allow us to play ArcheAge without being harassed by griefers. I propose simply making the Northern Continent PvP or having seperate servers.

Wouldn't it be easier for you just to do a little reading?

Guess what, there are bad people in the world and somebody won't always be there to cut the corners of your bread. You could copy and paste the entire guide into google translate and read it a whole lot faster than the developers could write some codes in the game just to make you feel comfortable playing.

I mean, come on people...

True but imo at least 75% of all people are rabid animals with no redeemable qualities whether in game or not for the most part today's people are violent, mouth breathers with cell phones.

spankybus · May 2014

Originally posted by zytin
Originally posted by coretex666
So a game with OW FFA PvP (with certain regulatory mechanisms in place, e.g. jail) is automatically a game for gankers / griefers?

I have also noticed that some posters consider people who are in favor of having this sort of PvP in an MMORPG to be automatically griefers as well and they do not hesitate to refer to them as griefers in their posts.

Of course there will be individuals who will try to take advantage of this design and cause harm to other players, but it does not justify the mentality described above.

I consider these people to be wrong and limited to an extent that they are unable to entertain a possibility that some people may want OW FFA PvP in their games for other reason than to cause other players unnecessary harm via ganking / griefing.

I would not care about this mentality at all if these people did not spread it trying to promote it as truth.

The right answer would be: yes, there will definitely be some ganking / griefing going on in this game. Is that a deal breaker for you? That is fine, then just do what adults do in such situation, ignore the game and move on.

TL;DR

If you don't like being griefed/ganked by people like me, then stop crying about it and go play somewhere else.

LOL and people wonder why OW PvP games are so few and far between. This guy's post right here says it all. Translation:

My enjoyment = less players.

This is why most OW PvP games are crappy, low-budget train wrecks. Anyone who invests the kind of money it takes to make a really good game doesn't want Git's with social issues chasing away their customer base. Not all PvP'ers are griefing jerks, but the few that are ruin it, unapologetically, for the rest of us. Gonna start calling them King Geoffery's.

Now, if they would just add gameplay mechanics to encourage anti-griefing gameplay? Posse' and rewards, bounties for people who kill players X levels below their own, etc. Then it gets interesting. Lets face it, this kind of behavior in real life would have serious consequences for the morons doing it. Why should the gamespace be any different? I loved PK hunting in UO :-D

Personally, I cannot wait for the open seas in this game! Just cannot bring myself to shell out the 150 to get in.

Informer80 · May 2014

Originally posted by spankybus

Now, if they would just add gameplay mechanics to encourage anti-griefing gameplay? Posse' and rewards, bounties for people who kill players X levels below their own, etc. Then it gets interesting. Lets face it, this kind of behavior in real life would have serious consequences for the morons doing it. Why should the gamespace be any different? I loved PK hunting in UO

I´m sorry but there is a bounty system.

In a sandbox the players can start handing out bounties on the forums.

Name & shame is allowed in ArcheAge, so feel free to let the mercenaries and gankers do the job

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