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Black Desert: Western Publisher Thoughts

SilentstormSilentstorm Member UncommonPosts: 1,126

Western Thoughts

So Black Desert needs a western publisher. I made a list of gtfo publishers who shouldn't be considered. And the companies who should get the chance.

 

1. EA, Blizzard, Sony, Snail all deserve number 1 gtfo. They all have too much going on. And are guilty of some of the worst cash shopping practices. Or just bad with communities in general.

2. Ncsoft too many games coming and they can't even be honest.

3. Nexon Cash shops in a very sneaky way. I don't like it they're a no go.

4. Perfect World Cash shops EVERYTHING stay far far far FAR away from them Daum.

I know I'm being hard on these games. But they deserve it because I'm truly tired of pay to win. And I'm someone who could afford to do it. Doesn't mean I deserve a crown over any other gamer. 

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The following are companies that should be considered. They either have good practices or good with communities.

 

1. Trion They have the best cash shop practices we have in the world. It's fair balanced and they care about community

2. Square-Enix I mean duh the awesome they would bring to the game is one thing. But they also have patience and wouldn't abandon it easily.

3. Funcom Like Square they wouldn't leave the project hanging. And they do a very good job immersing community. Which is where this game would have an issue.

4.Tencent has already said it wanted to start doing western games. Now would be an excellent time to jump in and show these western companies how to do it.

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  • Emm_Emm_OhhEmm_Emm_Ohh Member UncommonPosts: 80
    Trion ftw

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  • FlyByKnightFlyByKnight Member EpicPosts: 3,967
    Originally posted by Silentstorm

    Western Thoughts

    So Black Desert needs a western publisher. I made a list of gtfo publishers who shouldn't be considered. And the companies who should get the chance.

     

    1. EA, Blizzard, Sony, Snail all deserve number 1 gtfo. They all have too much going on. And are guilty of some of the worst cash shopping practices. Or just bad with communities in general.

    2. Ncsoft too many games coming and they can't even be honest.

    3. Nexon Cash shops in a very sneaky way. I don't like it they're a no go.

    4. Perfect World Cash shops EVERYTHING stay far far far FAR away from them Daum.

    I know I'm being hard on these games. But they deserve it because I'm truly tired of pay to win. And I'm someone who could afford to do it. Doesn't mean I deserve a crown over any other gamer. 

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    The following are companies that should be considered. They either have good practices or good with communities.

     

    1. Trion They have the best cash shop practices we have in the world. It's fair balanced and they care about community

    2. Square-Enix I mean duh the awesome they would bring to the game is one thing. But they also have patience and wouldn't abandon it easily.

    3. Funcom Like Square they wouldn't leave the project hanging. And they do a very good job immersing community. Which is where this game would have an issue.

    4.Tencent has already said it wanted to start doing western games. Now would be an excellent time to jump in and show these western companies how to do it.

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  • rlhegirarlhegira Member UncommonPosts: 36
    Should add enmasse to the list under should be.
  • apophiss2004apophiss2004 Member UncommonPosts: 15
    I hope they won't find any publisher, so they'll be forced to open their own subsidiary studio in NA.
  • LissylLissyl Member UncommonPosts: 271

    FUNCOM?!  You're kidding, right? 

     

    Trion I'm on board with, but Funcom?  I'd consider that a disaster worse than Blizzard or even Sony.

  • BennuBennu Member UncommonPosts: 46
    Originally posted by FlyByKnight
    Originally posted by Silentstorm

    Western Thoughts

    So Black Desert needs a western publisher. I made a list of gtfo publishers who shouldn't be considered. And the companies who should get the chance.

     

    1. EA, Blizzard, Sony, Snail all deserve number 1 gtfo. They all have too much going on. And are guilty of some of the worst cash shopping practices. Or just bad with communities in general.

    2. Ncsoft too many games coming and they can't even be honest.

    3. Nexon Cash shops in a very sneaky way. I don't like it they're a no go.

    4. Perfect World Cash shops EVERYTHING stay far far far FAR away from them Daum.

    I know I'm being hard on these games. But they deserve it because I'm truly tired of pay to win. And I'm someone who could afford to do it. Doesn't mean I deserve a crown over any other gamer. 

    ===============================================

    The following are companies that should be considered. They either have good practices or good with communities.

     

    1. Trion They have the best cash shop practices we have in the world. It's fair balanced and they care about community

    2. Square-Enix I mean duh the awesome they would bring to the game is one thing. But they also have patience and wouldn't abandon it easily.

    3. Funcom Like Square they wouldn't leave the project hanging. And they do a very good job immersing community. Which is where this game would have an issue.

    4.Tencent has already said it wanted to start doing western games. Now would be an excellent time to jump in and show these western companies how to do it.

    I'm sorry. This is one the funniest responses in a thread I've ever seen on this forum.

  • SilentstormSilentstorm Member UncommonPosts: 1,126

    You have to think about certain things.

    Funcom was added because they care about not having pay to win. And they would have resources to cater to the game and community. Plus they wouldn't really have to do much. Beyond do the westernization, programming would still be under Daum. 

    En Masse and Arena Net would work.

    But both have games that would conflict with Black Desert. Tera and Guild Wars 2

  • SilveruneSilverune Member UncommonPosts: 128
    Definitley not Nexon, anything but Nexon, only have to look at what they did to Allods Online back in the day to see what a bunch of greedy, money grabbing cash shop publishers that company is.....(Shudders)
  • MavolenceMavolence Member UncommonPosts: 635
    Funcom was just investigated for insider trading. Their games suck and that abomination of AOC i'll never forgive them for. Having said that im going to go against the grain here and despite my absolute deep love for SWG...i'd not mind to see SOE pick up publishing of Black Desert from my recent experiences with SOE last 2 years im convinced they could do it well.
  • DullahanDullahan Member EpicPosts: 4,536
    Depending on how well Trion does with Archeage, they might be the best bet.  Though I'm not sure what the ramifications might be for them as an investment if they were to back another sandbox mmorpg this close to the launch of archeage.  I guess if you have the money, corner the market, but they'd be competing with their own game.


  • DullahanDullahan Member EpicPosts: 4,536
    Originally posted by Mavolence
    Funcom was just investigated for insider trading. Their games suck and that abomination of AOC i'll never forgive them for. Having said that im going to go against the grain here and despite my absolute deep love for SWG...i'd not mind to see SOE pick up publishing of Black Desert from my recent experiences with SOE last 2 years im convinced they could do it well.

    While I understand your new found trust in SOE (it does seem they're finally starting to "get it"), I still wouldn't trust Black Desert to them.  Black Desert is too important of a game to place in the hands of a struggling company with all their eggs in a giant sandbox mmo basket (EQ Next).  They would probably neglect it the same way they neglected Vanguard for years, putting it in the back of the bus (backseat analogy not descriptive enough) while they focused on their own titles like EQ 2 which was clearly an inferior product to Vanguard in every respect other than client stability (hey, they game was launched 1 year early).  Between SWG and Vanguard, I just don't trust SOE to self-servingly repeat their past offenses.

    Like I said, Black Desert is too important.  This game has the potential to completely redefine the genre.


  • bingbongbrosbingbongbros Member UncommonPosts: 689
    Originally posted by Mtibbs1989
    Originally posted by Silentstorm

    Western Thoughts

    So Black Desert needs a western publisher. I made a list of gtfo publishers who shouldn't be considered. And the companies who should get the chance.

     

    1. EA, Blizzard, Sony, Snail all deserve number 1 gtfo. They all have too much going on. And are guilty of some of the worst cash shopping practices. Or just bad with communities in general.

    2. Ncsoft too many games coming and they can't even be honest.

    3. Nexon Cash shops in a very sneaky way. I don't like it they're a no go.

    4. Perfect World Cash shops EVERYTHING stay far far far FAR away from them Daum.

    I know I'm being hard on these games. But they deserve it because I'm truly tired of pay to win. And I'm someone who could afford to do it. Doesn't mean I deserve a crown over any other gamer. 

    ===============================================

    The following are companies that should be considered. They either have good practices or good with communities.

     

    1. Trion They have the best cash shop practices we have in the world. It's fair balanced and they care about community

    2. Square-Enix I mean duh the awesome they would bring to the game is one thing. But they also have patience and wouldn't abandon it easily.

    3. Funcom Like Square they wouldn't leave the project hanging. And they do a very good job immersing community. Which is where this game would have an issue.

    4.Tencent has already said it wanted to start doing western games. Now would be an excellent time to jump in and show these western companies how to do it.

    I've never heard of Tencent but their name makes me think they'll be nickle and diming their customers.

    Tencent is the publisher that HiRez is using to bring Smite to China.  They are the typical Chinese company and forced HiRez to do all sorts of changes to the game to fit China's ideals, i.e. removing all skulls from the game, scrapping models that they didn't like for other versions.

    I wouldn't trust them to walk my dog.

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  • CetraCetra Member UncommonPosts: 359

    Funcom is shit.

    Square only cares about its own franchise.

    Trion is the only good choice. But they are busy with Archeage now.

  • SirBalinSirBalin Member UncommonPosts: 1,300
    I'd like to see NC Soft, they have the pvp mindset I want.

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  • SirBalinSirBalin Member UncommonPosts: 1,300
    Originally posted by DMKano

    EnMasse would be the logical choice.

    I hope it's not Tencent (terrible) or Snailgames (even worse)

    My only hope is that PA goes with a *major* Publisher and not some no-name like they did in Russia.

     

    EnMasse, lmfao...what?  Sure, a company that rips code off of another company, makes a game and then does nothing but add more gear and more gear and more gear...lol

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  • CouganCougan Member UncommonPosts: 422

    Not sure why Trion is such a good choice or why they would be considered to have the best cash shop choices.

     

    The freemium model of Archeage really put me off - paying a sub for things like housing is fine if you're not milked for everything else under the sun in a cash shop on top. Even the founders pack had things like +stat cloaks and whatnot which will probably be released every few months with a extra few stats.

     

    Another version of Archeage business model would be very disappointing for me.

  • GillleanGilllean Member Posts: 169

    Trion is bad at F2p 

    After it went f2p you had to farm like 1 week to buy one Pvp item while they were selling them for cash next to in game currency

    NO trion proved it gridness

     

    I really don't know any good publishers  fact  they all are greedy bastards !!!!!!  and they don't care and never cared about players.

    What about game well it will be amazing  heavy modded skyrim is joke compared to that game World  detail  and graphics plus the realistic view Is so damn GOOOOOD!!

    PLUS THIS

    Good news for all virtual reality fans. It seems like that Black Desert will support the virtual reality headset Oculus Rift. We’ve found an interesting config  file in the last update with the option to enable virtual reality support, making it the first next-gen MMORPG to do so. The Rift is an upcoming virtual reality head-mounted display, being developed by Oculus VR.

  • alkarionlogalkarionlog Member EpicPosts: 3,584
    Originally posted by Silentstorm

    Western Thoughts

    So Black Desert needs a western publisher. I made a list of gtfo publishers who shouldn't be considered. And the companies who should get the chance.

     

    1. EA, Blizzard, Sony, Snail all deserve number 1 gtfo. They all have too much going on. And are guilty of some of the worst cash shopping practices. Or just bad with communities in general.

    2. Ncsoft too many games coming and they can't even be honest.

    3. Nexon Cash shops in a very sneaky way. I don't like it they're a no go.

    4. Perfect World Cash shops EVERYTHING stay far far far FAR away from them Daum.

    I know I'm being hard on these games. But they deserve it because I'm truly tired of pay to win. And I'm someone who could afford to do it. Doesn't mean I deserve a crown over any other gamer. 

    ===============================================

    The following are companies that should be considered. They either have good practices or good with communities.

     

    1. Trion They have the best cash shop practices we have in the world. It's fair balanced and they care about community

    2. Square-Enix I mean duh the awesome they would bring to the game is one thing. But they also have patience and wouldn't abandon it easily.

    3. Funcom Like Square they wouldn't leave the project hanging. And they do a very good job immersing community. Which is where this game would have an issue.

    4.Tencent has already said it wanted to start doing western games. Now would be an excellent time to jump in and show these western companies how to do it.

    now lets get real here, blizzard, square and funcom I can't see then hosting games from others company's, from what you did mention was only NCsoft a maybe, lately they are not really interested in ahving anything onver western, plus would be easier they do it with blade and soul but nothing of it till now, sony they are more focused on older games,

     

    what you guys can hope for real are trion, enmasse or they own.

     

    btw the one who asked for arena net, that is NCsoft.

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  • Deathgod881Deathgod881 Member UncommonPosts: 104
    I still would prefer blizzard over all the bullshit publishers you posted on here at least they can keep it going as a p2p or f2p game since their in-come is WoW.

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  • GillleanGilllean Member Posts: 169
    Originally posted by Deathgod881
    I still would prefer blizzard over all the bullshit publishers you posted on here at least they can keep it going as a p2p or f2p game since their in-come is WoW.

    Agree   Blizzard have and money and experience they could buy all project with engine and developers )))  and keep in in right direction while other Asian developers proved to be so dumb after release ... for example like XL game with fail AA..

    Blizzard is the only one who can give us a good P2p experience .   Considering their "titan" fail

  • MakidianMakidian Member UncommonPosts: 208
    Originally posted by Gilllean
    Originally posted by Deathgod881
    I still would prefer blizzard over all the bullshit publishers you posted on here at least they can keep it going as a p2p or f2p game since their in-come is WoW.

    Agree   Blizzard have and money and experience they could buy all project with engine and developers )))  and keep in in right direction while other Asian developers proved to be so dumb after release ... for example like XL game with fail AA..

    Blizzard is the only one who can give us a good P2p experience .   Considering their "titan" fail

    Fail AA ? Are you high ?

  • neobahamut20neobahamut20 Member Posts: 336
    Originally posted by Lissyl

    FUNCOM?!  You're kidding, right? 

     

    Trion I'm on board with, but Funcom?  I'd consider that a disaster worse than Blizzard or even Sony.

    Not to mention Funcom is EA now...

    Boycotting EA. Why? They suck, even moreso since 2008.

  • VikingGamerVikingGamer Member UncommonPosts: 1,350

    Enmasse. 

    They did fine with Tera and could use another game in their quiver.

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  • GillleanGilllean Member Posts: 169
    Originally posted by Makidian
    Originally posted by Gilllean
    Originally posted by Deathgod881
    I still would prefer blizzard over all the bullshit publishers you posted on here at least they can keep it going as a p2p or f2p game since their in-come is WoW.

    Agree   Blizzard have and money and experience they could buy all project with engine and developers )))  and keep in in right direction while other Asian developers proved to be so dumb after release ... for example like XL game with fail AA..

    Blizzard is the only one who can give us a good P2p experience .   Considering their "titan" fail

    Fail AA ? Are you high ?

    Yes ArchAge is fail !!!! I'm not going to continue this topic with some one on hype train !!!!! 

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