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ArcheAge: 16k Spammers & Botters Given the Heave Ho

SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129

Trion Worlds is showing off its zero tolerance policy with regard to spammers and botters in ArcheAge. According to a new post by community manager Evan "Scapes" Berman, over sixteen thousand spammers and botters have been given the boot and more are promised soon.

It's important to note that we've also been banning compromised accounts that have been hijacked and used for spamming purposes. Often, this is the result of hackers using compromised credentials sourced from other, third-party websites to attempt logins on other websites (and online game services). If you suspect your account may be compromised, contact our Support Team immediately via website or email. Be sure to read up on how to secure and protect your account on our Support page. Lastly, and we cannot stress this enough, your Trion Worlds account password should not be used for any other product, website, or login.

Read the full post on the ArcheAge forum.

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  • cheyanecheyane Member LegendaryPosts: 9,386
    This is impressive for a game in Alpha it makes me very happy they were willing to do this now.
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  • JeroKaneJeroKane Member EpicPosts: 7,096

    If you cannot setup unique secure passwords. You can setup 2-factor authentication for free!

    Even Hotmail supports 2-factor authentication these days, so you can secure your email as well.

    I still don´t understand why people don´t use it. Then don´t be suprised when your account get´s hacked one day.

    I have been playing online games since the 90´s and I have never ever had any account hacked so far! Ever!

     

  • ReklawReklaw Member UncommonPosts: 6,495

    Good for them, hope they succeed in continueing to ban these type of people into these games.

    On another note, could MMORPG.COM do something about it's own annoying spam on it's website with these Mantra's all over the place? :P

  • BailoPan15BailoPan15 Member Posts: 410
    Originally posted by JeroKane

    If you cannot setup unique secure passwords. You can setup 2-factor authentication for free!

    Even Hotmail supports 2-factor authentication these days, so you can secure your email as well.

    I still don´t understand why people don´t use it. Then don´t be suprised when your account get´s hacked one day.

    I have been playing online games since the 90´s and I have never ever had any account hacked so far! Ever!

     

    Because those features are not on by default for convenience. That's why.

  • JeroKaneJeroKane Member EpicPosts: 7,096
    Originally posted by BailoPan15
    Originally posted by JeroKane

    If you cannot setup unique secure passwords. You can setup 2-factor authentication for free!

    Even Hotmail supports 2-factor authentication these days, so you can secure your email as well.

    I still don´t understand why people don´t use it. Then don´t be suprised when your account get´s hacked one day.

    I have been playing online games since the 90´s and I have never ever had any account hacked so far! Ever!

     

    Because those features are not on by default for convenience. That's why.

    2-factor authentication cannot be enabled by DEFAULT!  You need to set it up manually and for a very good reason!

    If you actually use 2-factor authentication, then you would know why.

  • BruceYeeBruceYee Member EpicPosts: 2,556
    Is the game still in the $150 paid alpha or has it moved beyond that?
  • docminus2docminus2 Member UncommonPosts: 184

    I guess I am naive, but what is the point for spammers/botters in an pre-release version?

    It can't be gold farmers, since they can't take gold into launch for sale, or? Unless of course there are people willing to pay cash for gold in an alpha/beta already.... Or maybe the farmers get to know game-mechanics ready for gold-selling after release, but those could change a lot, or? Then again, this alpha is only a formality I assume.

    That leaves generic cheaters and a$$holes?

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  • JabasJabas Member UncommonPosts: 1,249
    Originally posted by docminus2

    I guess I am naive, but what is the point for spammers/botters in an pre-release version?

    It can't be gold farmers, since they can't take gold into launch for sale, or? Unless of course there are people willing to pay cash for gold in an alpha/beta already.... Or maybe the farmers get to know game-mechanics ready for gold-selling after release, but those could change a lot, or? Then again, this alpha is only a formality I assume.

    That leaves generic cheaters and a$$holes?

    I wont be surprise if some alfa players buy gold to get things faster.

    Make sense? Since when some players behave make sense? image

  • angerbeaverangerbeaver Member UncommonPosts: 1,272
    Originally posted by JeroKane

    If you cannot setup unique secure passwords. You can setup 2-factor authentication for free!

    Even Hotmail supports 2-factor authentication these days, so you can secure your email as well.

    I still don´t understand why people don´t use it. Then don´t be suprised when your account get´s hacked one day.

    I have been playing online games since the 90´s and I have never ever had any account hacked so far! Ever!

     

    You believe you would have been hacked without the two factor authentication...Im fairly certain there are a healthy number of people who dont use 2 factor and have still never been hacked. 

  • Ragnar1337Ragnar1337 Member CommonPosts: 70

    Yeah what they don't say is that those banned accounts are mostly all fraudulent accounts to start with. The game is jammed packed with gold spammers and botters despite the PR spin they keep trying to put out. You can not play for 5 seconds without seeing every chat channel cluttered with gold seller spam. 

    This is in a 150$ alpha so imagine when the game actually releases and anyone can make free accounts any time they want. Teleport hacks and hacks that actually summon npc's to you so you can complete trade runs make this game a hackers wet dream. Do your homework before you drop 150$ on this second rate game. 

  • nerovipus32nerovipus32 Member Posts: 2,735
    Originally posted by Ragnar1337

    Yeah what they don't say is that those banned accounts are mostly all fraudulent accounts to start with. The game is jammed packed with gold spammers and botters despite the PR spin they keep trying to put out. You can not play for 5 seconds without seeing every chat channel cluttered with gold seller spam. 

    This is in a 150$ alpha so imagine when the game actually releases and anyone can make free accounts any time they want. Teleport hacks and hacks that actually summon npc's to you so you can complete trade runs make this game a hackers wet dream. Do your homework before you drop 150$ on this second rate game. 

    That just proves that regardless if a game is subscription, f2p or b2p, the game will still have hackers, gold spammers and exploiters. Subscription fees do make a community better. All mmo communities are trash.

  • JeroKaneJeroKane Member EpicPosts: 7,096
    Originally posted by angerbeaver
    Originally posted by JeroKane

    If you cannot setup unique secure passwords. You can setup 2-factor authentication for free!

    Even Hotmail supports 2-factor authentication these days, so you can secure your email as well.

    I still don´t understand why people don´t use it. Then don´t be suprised when your account get´s hacked one day.

    I have been playing online games since the 90´s and I have never ever had any account hacked so far! Ever!

     

    You believe you would have been hacked without the two factor authentication...Im fairly certain there are a healthy number of people who dont use 2 factor and have still never been hacked. 

    Read my post again please.

    But 2-factor authentication would make your account pretty much unhackable, unless you lose your physical dongle or mobile phone to a hacker.

     

  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975
    Likely more botters than spammers, but impressive how many people must be on this single environment.

    That or when I log in tonight I'm going to be totally alone. image

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  • TheelyTheely Member UncommonPosts: 430
    Originally posted by docminus2

    I guess I am naive, but what is the point for spammers/botters in an pre-release version?

    It can't be gold farmers, since they can't take gold into launch for sale, or? Unless of course there are people willing to pay cash for gold in an alpha/beta already.... Or maybe the farmers get to know game-mechanics ready for gold-selling after release, but those could change a lot, or? Then again, this alpha is only a formality I assume.

    That leaves generic cheaters and a$$holes?

    I think your two reasons are spot on.

    1. The amount of people playing the game like it is release is very high. Many people are grinding end-game content, playing the AH, and hacking farm land in order to get newly available land plots in order to sell them for high gold sums. If these spammers really are selling gold, there are probably people buying, heck they spent 150$ on access.

    2. Getting in game early to get your bot scripts set up would be wise business decision.

  • pad07pad07 Member UncommonPosts: 19

    i have been playing online games since the mid 90's and i have never been hacked either. it's a matter of common sense. some people lack some of it and some are just plain too naive.

     

    wow it's surprising to me that hey have more than 16k alpha testers. that's nice! looking foward for a chance to get in or beta. wich i  can afford to buy to get in. :P

     
  • UhwopUhwop Member UncommonPosts: 1,791
    Originally posted by pad07

    i have been playing online games since the mid 90's and i have never been hacked either. it's a matter of common sense. some people lack some of it and some are just plain too naive.

     

    wow it's surprising to me that hey have more than 16k alpha testers. that's nice! looking foward for a chance to get in or beta. wich i  can afford to buy to get in. :P

     

    Yes, it was a lack of common sense and being naive that lead to WoW accounts getting hacked after visiting a popular WoW related website, which prompted blizzard to start offering authentications to help protect people.  

    Your statement is very naive and lacks common sense because it assumes that every compromised account is the fault of the account holder, when many times it is not.  It would be like me assuming you never made it past elementary school because you didn't use a single capital letter in your post; that wouldn't be fair, now would it? 

    You're also assuming that these are hacked accounts, even though I've not seen people complaining about their account being banned for nothing.  Because they obviously can't be legitimate accounts that were actually cheating.

  • AmjocoAmjoco Member UncommonPosts: 4,860
    Ok, I'm a rational guy and can understand a market for botting, but I know of no one that actually purchases gold or items from these websites. I have a pretty big group of nerdy friends and family, and we are all pretty tight when it comes to sharing our stories about games, and none of them do it. How many people actually know these meat heads that buy from these sites ruining our experiences? I want names! /slams fist 

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  • Ramonski7Ramonski7 Member UncommonPosts: 2,662
    Botting and gold selling are big business. And despite popular belief most gold farmer/botter business you see in these mmos released in the west are ran by western culprits. I've said it before, botters have been invading mmo alphas for years in hopes for a big payoff. So a few dozen companies dropping upfront cash to get a jump on the competition is not all that surprising. Just you wait until open beta (which will be soft release) and they'll make their money back tenfold.

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  • ReizlaReizla Member RarePosts: 4,092

    On the positive side for us (legit) players, with the ban of all these accounts, a butt load of farm plots will become available soon(ish) when the tax paid period expires...

    On the negative side, though TRION banned 16K accounts already, there's still a huge amount of goldselling SPAM in the /faction channel. Means that TRION must have missed a large number of accounts ;)

  • siicAdelicsiicAdelic Member Posts: 31
    Originally posted by DMKano

    16k accounts = 2.4 million dollars

    Talk about a crap ton of stolen CCs.

     

    So in other words we over sold alpha slots and so we are going to ban 16k of you and steal your 2.4 million dollars. Thank you for choosing Trion.

  • ReizlaReizla Member RarePosts: 4,092
    Originally posted by siicAdelic
    Originally posted by DMKano

    16k accounts = 2.4 million dollars

    Talk about a crap ton of stolen CCs.

    So in other words we over sold alpha slots and so we are going to ban 16k of you and steal your 2.4 million dollars. Thank you for choosing Trion.

    Think DMKano meant that the goldsellers were using stolen CCs and not TRION :D

  • kinkyJalepenokinkyJalepeno Member UncommonPosts: 1,044

    Ouch, thats nearly £2 millions worth of Archeum accounts !!

    Nice going :)

     

  • kinkyJalepenokinkyJalepeno Member UncommonPosts: 1,044
    Originally posted by JeroKane

    If you cannot setup unique secure passwords. You can setup 2-factor authentication for free!

    Even Hotmail supports 2-factor authentication these days, so you can secure your email as well.

    I still don´t understand why people don´t use it. Then don´t be suprised when your account get´s hacked one day.

    I have been playing online games since the 90´s and I have never ever had any account hacked so far! Ever!

     

     

    The Rift authenticator works great for Archeage too.  Recommend all get it or risk haxx :)

  • goboygogoboygo Member RarePosts: 2,141
    Originally posted by docminus2

    I guess I am naive, but what is the point for spammers/botters in an pre-release version?

    It can't be gold farmers, since they can't take gold into launch for sale, or? Unless of course there are people willing to pay cash for gold in an alpha/beta already.... Or maybe the farmers get to know game-mechanics ready for gold-selling after release, but those could change a lot, or? Then again, this alpha is only a formality I assume.

    That leaves generic cheaters and a$$holes?

    People will pay for an advantage at anytime in a games development, which is why F2P games are so popular, the cheap bastards play for free with a half assed experience, the casual tire kickers and A.D.D. gamers get to dabble and buy a sparkle pony, and the fiscally irresponsible get to buy their way to victory.

  • AstraeisAstraeis Member UncommonPosts: 378
    Originally posted by siicAdelic
    Originally posted by DMKano

    16k accounts = 2.4 million dollars

    Talk about a crap ton of stolen CCs.

     

    So in other words we over sold alpha slots and so we are going to ban 16k of you and steal your 2.4 million dollars. Thank you for choosing Trion.

    You make no sense at all.

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