Yeah im looking forward to wasting lots of time deep sea treasure hunting and exploring the krakens lair
Im surprised people are not bitching about the 5 min REAL TIME regen on the oxygen tanks..I mean come on the game FORCES you to wait 5 whole minutes in between...
Even if you choose to considerate the quest chain as not optional it ends at level 30...I really dont get this...every game of late be that ESO, WS and now AA has gotten the same tears about questing...these are mmorpgs...for rpg gamers who suddenly HATE questing and think its ridiculous that ESO or WS or AA has questing...
You dont go on the COD forums to find their community trashing the game cus its an FPS...I just dont get the quest hate in the last couple of years....any mmorpg gamer who cant stomach 30 levels of questing prior to a sandpark experience that could last years instesd of weeks maybe should be playing COD...
I've come to the opinion that AA fanbois are dillusional. the QUEST SYSTEM in AA is NOT OPTIONAL if you want to enjoy the game.
Unless you want to go deep sea gathering of course :P.
In order to progress in a semi-comfortable manner, you are forced to play the game as if it's a themepark on the worst rails possible.
Stop making stuff up. Yes, eventually, you can do what you want and there is alot to do, but not until you're hazed for 30 levels by a tedious questing system....or you can stay at the bottom of the ocean and gather...that's fun too
Oh no, not lvl 30. Spending 10 hours on a game that you will spend countless days played on.
I just find it funny he ran back to an average MMO that did nothing new. Didn't live up to its hype and let down a ton of people. After ripping them off.
I just find it funny he ran back to an average MMO that did nothing new. Didn't live up to its hype and let down a ton of people. After ripping them off.
The guy did a review ON BETA, so that gives you a clue about the review, and he complained about the Sub Fee (ARCHEAGE is an extended trail with a sub fee) so again....... , and that they sold mounts in cash shop (yes it was a little wired) but hell alot of games do that, again archeage has a 150$ founder pack.
but its all doesnt matter for two reasons:
1- lest wait for his review about the game first then compare.
2- some people enjoy ESO and some enjoy archeage, and some enjoy both (WoW could you believe how simple is that?)
so what's your point:
that he run for an average mmo that he enjoys, for an mmo that didnt live to the hype for some people???? what's the problem with that?
I just find it funny he ran back to an average MMO that did nothing new. Didn't live up to its hype and let down a ton of people. After ripping them off.
The guy did a review ON BETA, so that gives you a clue about the review, and he complained about the Sub Fee (ARCHEAGE is an extended trail with a sub fee) so again....... , and that they sold mounts in cash shop (yes it was a little wired) but hell alot of games do that, again archeage has a 150$ founder pack.
but its all doesnt matter for two reasons:
1- lest wait for his review about the game first then compare.
2- some people enjoy ESO and some enjoy archeage, and some enjoy both (WoW could you believe how simple is that?)
so what's your point:
that he run for an average mmo that he enjoys, for an mmo that didnt live to the hype for some people???? what's the problem with that?
please enlighten me.
Let us hope he does a review on archeage.. I know he played it or is playing it now. If he does a review i am guessing his main gripe will be the labor system and forced questing when the game claims to be sandbox.
Nope I can't believe how simple that is. Just because someone enjoys a game or movie does not make it a good game. People enjoy crap movies that get awful ratings from experts. Still a crap movie.
I've come to the opinion that AA fanbois are dillusional. the QUEST SYSTEM in AA is NOT OPTIONAL if you want to enjoy the game.
Unless you want to go deep sea gathering of course :P.
In order to progress in a semi-comfortable manner, you are forced to play the game as if it's a themepark on the worst rails possible.
Stop making stuff up. Yes, eventually, you can do what you want and there is alot to do, but not until you're hazed for 30 levels by a tedious questing system....or you can stay at the bottom of the ocean and gather...that's fun too
Oh no, not lvl 30. Spending 10 hours on a game that you will spend countless days played on.
that's not my issue, the issue is the outright lie being portrayed that there are other options of similar value to getting to 30. although deepsea gathering is awesome...lol
I've come to the opinion that AA fanbois are dillusional. the QUEST SYSTEM in AA is NOT OPTIONAL if you want to enjoy the game.
Unless you want to go deep sea gathering of course :P.
In order to progress in a semi-comfortable manner, you are forced to play the game as if it's a themepark on the worst rails possible.
Stop making stuff up. Yes, eventually, you can do what you want and there is alot to do, but not until you're hazed for 30 levels by a tedious questing system....or you can stay at the bottom of the ocean and gather...that's fun too
Oh no, not lvl 30. Spending 10 hours on a game that you will spend countless days played on.
that's not my issue, the issue is the outright lie being portrayed that there are other options of similar value to getting to 30. although deepsea gathering is awesome...lol
I agree.. I mean it only does take about 2 days or less to hit 30.. But I was not really expecting any forced quest hubs from all the hype.
that's not my issue, the issue is the outright lie being portrayed that there are other options of similar value to getting to 30. although deepsea gathering is awesome...lol
I have a farmer guy on the Omega server that is lvl 27 and has not killed a mob since he was lvl 12. He mines and he is a livestock farmer. My adventurer on that server is only lvl 23
Life lesson for you ... value is a subjective opinion, what you value I may look at as trash or the other way around. I am playing the game like it is Farmville with pirates and hang gliders and having a blast playing both the farming and economic side and the adventurer side
I just uninstalled AA Alpha and re-installed ESO today. I'll prob play it at launch with my guild, but without a fully active guild the game was unbearable for me.
I couldn't stand questing, no matter if it was pre-30 or after, was/is the fastest way to lvl (legit that won't be different at launch). In ESO it was voiced over and even the boring go kill 10 of these mobs was done by an action combat system, imo, that didn't bore the hell out of me like AA. Tab targeting combat, to me atleast, is a thing of the past. I can't stand it anymore and I welcome any change to the "typical" combat whether it's always better or not.
I absolutely loved killing 2-3 mobs then using a flute for 15 seconds to regen 12% of my mana and then having to wait a whole minute before I could kill another mob with my horrible tab targeting combat skills. The labor system is a unique and good idea for some games, a f2p game where there's a cash shop, HELL no. Just as expected labor pots are the way to go or leaving your computer online all day, that's normal right? Well there will be a 45 mins afk timer at launch so guess pots will be the way to go.
The "open world" of AA is a great change from all the horrible themeparks that have been coming out these past few years. Though it wasn't as much as I was expecting. It still felt like there was a 40-50% of the world that was well traveled and the rest just extra space. For example trade pack run routes, quest hub routes, roads between regions, grinding spots, popular housing/farming locations, etc. ESO tried to make you explore by granting exploration xp in tiny instanced zones, atleast they tried.
The pvp in AA for being tab target combat just gave me a bad taste in my mouth the whole time, but yet I gave it a try. I hated that there was an arena system to draw players away from open world pvp and refused to even try it. Halcyona wars are a great idea, wish there was more "originality" there and one on each continent though. For a month and a half I went to every Halcyona war with 2-3 people while I was on and most regular zone wars. With a larger population maybe zone wars will become more fun, but I found myself killing farmers, questers, or getting zerged, while only finding fights 10% of the time. For an Alpha server that was at the size expected for a server at launch, according to Trion, a pvper spends most of his time running around questing zones playing guard games.
Naval combat will be great and competitive castle sieges may make things interesting at launch. ATM though ESO offers large scale pvp that I can get into almost instantaneously where-as I've been unable to find it in AA, besides 1 sided zergs in Halcyona.
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Honest it is weird but with this mmo. I like the post like this.
The OP is right and I bet millions will share his view. And I would rather the people who want a more WoW style mainstream experiance to not flood into AA. Sure it will cost the devs money upfront. But we will avoid the 2million sub boom then fall down to a fraction of that most mmo have. I would rather see this game launch is low number compaired to most mmo and grow as word gets out.
In AA a massive population drop will be horrific. Game needs populated servers to work. IF there is a boom then bust we will have many dead servers, and unlike games with instanced housing there is so much land in AA it would be almost impossible to merge servers without screwing people over. Land and the position of land just has too high of an importance in AA.
But on topic if you love TESO, you will probably hate AA. The games are almost on opposite ends of the spectrum.
AA is a game based on Guild vs Guild game with horizontal development. Quest,Instance Dungeons, and story line take a back seat to everything else. You cannot trust anyone outside your guild in this game and you cannot really do half the stuff without it. It is your lifeline.
Teso and many other mainstream mmos are focusing on making sure solo players can experiance most the content. Story, quest lines, and instances are the focus because it allows for unimpeded progression. The game is designed on verticle progression where 1 event leads to another which leads to another. Everyone is suppost to be friends outside pvp.
I wish AA sorta had the best of everything honestly, but it does not. And in my opinion it is focusing on the right part. Quest suck in AA, but that is alot better then say being pigeon holed into a quest grind to cap. Or being forced to grind dungeon after dungeon after dungeon night after night with nothing else to do.
If you want a game that is based on intersting story, engaging quest lines, soloability, and fairness all around. DO NOT PLAY AA. But remember if you do, I will steal your trade packs and kill you and make you waste that hour you spent farming and making them . Me and my guild will thank you >.>
I just find it funny he ran back to an average MMO that did nothing new. Didn't live up to its hype and let down a ton of people. After ripping them off.
The guy did a review ON BETA, so that gives you a clue about the review, and he complained about the Sub Fee (ARCHEAGE is an extended trail with a sub fee) so again....... , and that they sold mounts in cash shop (yes it was a little wired) but hell alot of games do that, again archeage has a 150$ founder pack.
but its all doesnt matter for two reasons:
1- lest wait for his review about the game first then compare.
2- some people enjoy ESO and some enjoy archeage, and some enjoy both (WoW could you believe how simple is that?)
so what's your point:
that he run for an average mmo that he enjoys, for an mmo that didnt live to the hype for some people???? what's the problem with that?
please enlighten me.
Let us hope he does a review on archeage.. I know he played it or is playing it now. If he does a review i am guessing his main gripe will be the labor system and forced questing when the game claims to be sandbox.
Nope I can't believe how simple that is. Just because someone enjoys a game or movie does not make it a good game. People enjoy crap movies that get awful ratings from experts. Still a crap movie.
yes but still they enjoy it, it doesnt matter what's good to you, is bad for others
If you play AA with a subscription (as you do ESO) - labor point concern goes away.
At least compare apples to apples - ESO has no "free to try" option period.
Quests in AA are tutorial - they are not the focus of the game AT ALL - they are the weakest part of the game.
AA is a guild vs guild PvP game at heart - it's not a solo game, it's not a quest game, it's not about running dungeons.
Chances are if you like questing, story, dungeons, PvE and soloing - AA is NOT the game for you period.
ESO to me is a great game for a soloer who likes PvE and some casual PvP.
AA is a game for an *active* guild PvP player
ESO and AA appeal to 2 entirely different audiences
Kana speaks truth. the beauty of AA is quests, just as mundane as in ESO, can be skipped and ignored to progress unlike ESO.
But I don't find ESO quests mundane at all. I find them interesting and integral to the overall story of the game. But as I said in my OP, it is my opinion coupled with the style of gameplay I enjoy. I will certainly give AA another shot when it goes live, but as a paying customer. Then I can truly see how I feel about the game. But for now, I will continue to enjoy ESO.
Let me start by saying that AA has a lot of great content going for it. But this is the exact reason I cannot stand playing free to play games. Every fricken thing I want to do in this game requires Labor Points. And for a player to have enough of these, you will either have to grind, grind and more grind, or pay to receive more.
I didn't know why I dropped 150 for AA all of a sudden even prior to beta; let's just say that the mixed feeling of AA, both good and bad, made me really curious about the game.
Surprisingly enough, after introduced into MMORPG by WoW back in 2005, China PTR and onward, AA is the only MMORPG game that actually grow on me, beside TSW. I mean, I was a hardcore rider back in the NAXX40 raid time, where I was merely 14 years old, I enjoyed the genre. As time elapse and the immigration to the US, I experienced a different MMORPG community, the NA community. And then, with more time past by while I spent most of my time in WoW NA, I became causal the more days past.
Anyways, I think my unique taste for MMORPG may account for some people.
Going back to the post: When I first saw the title of this post, I knew it's going to be some ridiculous fake attention grabber. As it turns out, I know my prediction is right after the red sentence and then I decide to discard the whole thread all together; it will be misleading and one-sided anyways. I mean, really, running away from AA to ESO? REALLY?! Let's just say that's unreal.
One important thing, though it's true that you need Labor Point for everything crafting related, whether gathering or crafting itself, THERE'S NO WAY TO FARM LABOR POINT, per se. LP accumulate itself over time, there's ABSOLUTELY no any way to "farm" it as the post claim why LP is a stone in the way of the game. As the current cashshop in alpha/beta, the money you spend in AA is PURELY for convenience. Even for the most part where you can buy LP with cash, it's just convenience as it saves you time to wait for LP to accumulate; besides, 1k LP on a 12hr cd really can't accomplish any big project in 1 cd, or even 10 cd, for hardcore crafters.
Even with the patron system, it's purely for convenience: patron gets housing, and it gives out HUGE convenience to the patrons. Even though you may claim that housing is a part of the gaming experience you should receive from AA, too bad you can't get it w/o sub! The land is limited, new lands and contested ground need to be fought for, anything crafting/gathering can be done in the public area which doesn't require patron status. It's all managable but with housing it's just much more CONVENIENCE, not P2W.
So after experienced the alpha for some days, I quit most of my other gamings such as TSW or LoL or even some alpha/beta mobas out there. It's just simply that AA is fun and combat is actually challenging as it requires both micro and macro management: micro for skill combos and macro for mana management. I see lots of other game elements in there such as WoW, L2, Mabi, and more, which is totally amazing; just to despite the post, ESO has none of these whatsoever and the combat-class system is so redundant while AA's bring fresh air even to a MMORPG veteran like me.
Nonetheless, I think with the final release of the game, if my time permits me to play for 2-3 days a week, I will consider the patron for convenience.
And please excuse my poor grammar, as I learn most of the rabbish off the internet or SpongeBob.
So, I gave my opinion on AA based after playing for about 15 levels. I cited some things that I liked and did not like. I explained my play style and added that I currently play another game that I enjoy. Where is this post a troll? Or is it that you just do not like my point of view?
We all have the right to disagree on game style. As for the labor point grind... What I meant was that to play the content that interests me, either I have to either pay a subscription or just wait around grinding quests or mobs until more labor points drip back into my account. I know that it will not be very fun to do, but I can understand why the system is in place.
Originally posted by Herzy Players who treat AA like every single player-focused MMO out there will have a very bad time. I learned that the hard way.
Kainotophobia- The Fear of Change.
Thats the current Community of gaming. split between change and no change.
Spend enough time playing WoW. you become WoW.
Don't get me wrong we have all played Wow or a variant of somekind over the years of repeats.
Its like star trek. you loved watching it. you still watch repeats today. but you still want more of that glory. but alas. all things must come to an end.
But with all things. we can not linger on bread for entertainment. one can not simply live on a diet of bread alone. need must arise to change and so......we have Archeage. some bread, beans and a side dish of nuts due the need for a thick skin to get down and dirty at times and fight your own faction.
Ya need to think outside of your comfort zone...in short ya need to make friends and allies due to the nature of the game.
And what happens when you have theses friends and allies. you have a pool of logistics you can use to complete tasks you cant do alone.
And if there not willing to help you level up.....ask them if you can join them on the high seas. and extra deckhand on a guild ship is always welcome i would expect....to elaborate.
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Our objective is to become well known in our guild we are new too.
So we join the guild sea raid who intend on going out to pirate trade ships and blow up rival ships.
the raid leader is at the helm. you want to be come known to him. then just stand at his side like a naval midshipman awaiting orders.
Or stand around whatever position is empty, the job is simple. jump on a cannon when everyone else does furil and unfuril sails when the capt'n commands it.
Alas a critical element is TS or what other form of Comms the guild may use. be on it. and try to weasle your way into comms even if your not there in game. presence alone means avalability.
And without you realising it people will be asking where that guy is who was on that cannon last week. and so you have merits you can use with your guild to aid you in leveling up. or ya may forgo the whole questing system and just decide a life of the high seas is your thing and conclude piracy is your new hobby....
Nothing to fear then because there is no change with archeage..it's another themepark pretending to have sandbox features.
Let me start by saying that AA has a lot of great content going for it. But this is the exact reason I cannot stand playing free to play games. Every fricken thing I want to do in this game requires Labor Points. And for a player to have enough of these, you will either have to grind, grind and more grind, or pay to receive more.
Now my playstyle is going to be different than other people, so it is not fair to say the game is good or not. I am saying that the game does not appeal to me. As an example, I am a completionist, explorer type of gamer. Well, for me to be able to harvest to my hearts content, it requires me labor points every single time I want to harvest a single node or blade of grass. Then, if I want to break down that said ore, I need more labor points. Then, if I want to break down a piece of armor/weapon, I need more labor points. So, if I want to build something in game, it will require tons and tons of labor points. So, either I pay and have more labor points at my disposal, or I just grind away. Labor points are earned every 5 minutes you play in small increments, by the way.
The other things I like are questing and pvping. I cannot say much about the pvp aspect of the game, because I did not get that far. But in my opinion, the quests are boring. There are many fetch, deliver and kill 3 mob quests. The class system is where the game shines though. I love the fact that you choose 3 different classes and combine them. That makes for some really cool strategy. I am sure that there will be tons of min/maxing.. But still, it makes for some interesting decision making for your character.
In comparison to ESO, the game I have been playing since April, I have to say that the graphics in ESO are much better. The game has much more immersion than AA. And the quests are no comparison. ESO quests blow AA away. As far as the combat and class systems, I give the edge to AA, but I still like the system ESO has, just not as much as AA. I think that AA is cheating themselves by letting their beta testers try the game as free to play. With all the limits set upon the player, it will push many people away. As for now, I am sticking with ESO, because it is the game that I have fun with the most at this time. Plus, the new content being added, such as the Champion System and Justice System, are right up my alley. But I still may try out AA when it goes live, but only as a subscription paying customer.
I hope you're joking, otherwise I'd feel kind of bad for you.
You don't NEED to do anything in AA. You do want to dip into all the aspect of the game. You will want to run dungeons, as it gives gear and crafting mats. You will want to kill those world bosses for those sick mounts and crafting mats. Crafting is out of the world here, you can grow everything and harvest to craft. Crafting is so immense that it's not funny. Labor points also limits the amount of profession you can level up, but you can level ALL of them (22) over the time. So pick your first few wisely.
Like the poster above me said, ESO doesn't have a F2P option. So you shouldn't compare it with F2P AA. Labor points is there for a reason. Imagine F2P players have the same benefit , then imagine how many bots/accounts running around flooding the game.
This ^, it is a real F2P game. Where you spend money to get items that regular sub players get by paying there sub.
You don't get overpower or anything like that in a real F2P game and this is what it is!! Now if you like the game pay for the sub and voila all your problems go away. I love this kind of F2P games.
Edit : i never would have said that in the past but now that i see this game using a real F2P option in there game i am starting to like it. ( Sub if you wish full access else get a few restriction by playing with the F2P option ) The restriction at least are not over the top like in other games.
Bought ESO and for me it was one of the biggest disapointments in mmo gaming i ever played.
I had tons of more fun in SWTOR.
The thing with Archeage is that its not a solo playable game and it opens up when you have your friends with you and love to pvp.
Its also something carebears will not ever like as its open world full pvp, specialy when you want to run tradepacks to the other continent.
I love it, i cant get enough of it, but then again i have been playing these themepark wow copy's for almost a decade now so i am happy XLgames / Trion is brining something totaly diffrent this time.
To each his own ?
Have fun in ESO with your timetrial speedruns with staffs m8 o/
Im not kidding, AA is not a very solo friendly game. If your goin solo, your not goin to like it at all. Me and some friends made a Family. We shared a house and 2 farms. We also built a boat. Explored the pirate island, the other factions continent. NONE of wich would have been possible to do on my own. We did things for a goal. We budgeted our labor points. We combined our resources to get us a boat, and a house and the farms.
I am Patron, love the game. NOT suggesting you drop $150 on AA, but Im very happy on the $50 I spent so far.
AA not a solo mmo, you need people to work with to get what you want. ITs what I couldnt get out of ESO, even though I liked ESO a lot. I think AA has more of what I want.
Theres a lot of misinformation on this forums. Im not goin to correct it. Play the freaking game, learn what you need to do. Its a really good open world, sandboxy kinda thing
PS: the wiki for AA is your friend. Use it! The game has what I think is a VERY steep learning curve.
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Im surprised people are not bitching about the 5 min REAL TIME regen on the oxygen tanks..I mean come on the game FORCES you to wait 5 whole minutes in between...
Even if you choose to considerate the quest chain as not optional it ends at level 30...I really dont get this...every game of late be that ESO, WS and now AA has gotten the same tears about questing...these are mmorpgs...for rpg gamers who suddenly HATE questing and think its ridiculous that ESO or WS or AA has questing...
You dont go on the COD forums to find their community trashing the game cus its an FPS...I just dont get the quest hate in the last couple of years....any mmorpg gamer who cant stomach 30 levels of questing prior to a sandpark experience that could last years instesd of weeks maybe should be playing COD...
Oh no, not lvl 30. Spending 10 hours on a game that you will spend countless days played on.
people should stop saying AA is a F2P game.
it simply is not, it's a subscription game wich gives you the option to go free 2 play. altho you will be horendously limited.
You can get the subscription with ingame money, so yes it's f2p.
This is no different than SWTOR....thats a sub game with a severely restricted f2p option. Dont see what all the fuss is about.
I also read f2p accounts can buy LP pots to top themselves up with ingame gold..if thats true...again dont see what even half the tears are over...
They are two different games that appeal to two different kinds of people.
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I just find it funny he ran back to an average MMO that did nothing new. Didn't live up to its hype and let down a ton of people. After ripping them off.
The guy did a review ON BETA, so that gives you a clue about the review, and he complained about the Sub Fee (ARCHEAGE is an extended trail with a sub fee) so again....... , and that they sold mounts in cash shop (yes it was a little wired) but hell alot of games do that, again archeage has a 150$ founder pack.
but its all doesnt matter for two reasons:
1- lest wait for his review about the game first then compare.
2- some people enjoy ESO and some enjoy archeage, and some enjoy both (WoW could you believe how simple is that?)
so what's your point:
that he run for an average mmo that he enjoys, for an mmo that didnt live to the hype for some people???? what's the problem with that?
please enlighten me.
Let us hope he does a review on archeage.. I know he played it or is playing it now. If he does a review i am guessing his main gripe will be the labor system and forced questing when the game claims to be sandbox.
Nope I can't believe how simple that is. Just because someone enjoys a game or movie does not make it a good game. People enjoy crap movies that get awful ratings from experts. Still a crap movie.
that's not my issue, the issue is the outright lie being portrayed that there are other options of similar value to getting to 30. although deepsea gathering is awesome...lol
I agree.. I mean it only does take about 2 days or less to hit 30.. But I was not really expecting any forced quest hubs from all the hype.
I have a farmer guy on the Omega server that is lvl 27 and has not killed a mob since he was lvl 12. He mines and he is a livestock farmer. My adventurer on that server is only lvl 23
Life lesson for you ... value is a subjective opinion, what you value I may look at as trash or the other way around. I am playing the game like it is Farmville with pirates and hang gliders and having a blast playing both the farming and economic side and the adventurer side
I miss DAoC
I just uninstalled AA Alpha and re-installed ESO today. I'll prob play it at launch with my guild, but without a fully active guild the game was unbearable for me.
I couldn't stand questing, no matter if it was pre-30 or after, was/is the fastest way to lvl (legit that won't be different at launch). In ESO it was voiced over and even the boring go kill 10 of these mobs was done by an action combat system, imo, that didn't bore the hell out of me like AA. Tab targeting combat, to me atleast, is a thing of the past. I can't stand it anymore and I welcome any change to the "typical" combat whether it's always better or not.
I absolutely loved killing 2-3 mobs then using a flute for 15 seconds to regen 12% of my mana and then having to wait a whole minute before I could kill another mob with my horrible tab targeting combat skills. The labor system is a unique and good idea for some games, a f2p game where there's a cash shop, HELL no. Just as expected labor pots are the way to go or leaving your computer online all day, that's normal right? Well there will be a 45 mins afk timer at launch so guess pots will be the way to go.
The "open world" of AA is a great change from all the horrible themeparks that have been coming out these past few years. Though it wasn't as much as I was expecting. It still felt like there was a 40-50% of the world that was well traveled and the rest just extra space. For example trade pack run routes, quest hub routes, roads between regions, grinding spots, popular housing/farming locations, etc. ESO tried to make you explore by granting exploration xp in tiny instanced zones, atleast they tried.
The pvp in AA for being tab target combat just gave me a bad taste in my mouth the whole time, but yet I gave it a try. I hated that there was an arena system to draw players away from open world pvp and refused to even try it. Halcyona wars are a great idea, wish there was more "originality" there and one on each continent though. For a month and a half I went to every Halcyona war with 2-3 people while I was on and most regular zone wars. With a larger population maybe zone wars will become more fun, but I found myself killing farmers, questers, or getting zerged, while only finding fights 10% of the time. For an Alpha server that was at the size expected for a server at launch, according to Trion, a pvper spends most of his time running around questing zones playing guard games.
Naval combat will be great and competitive castle sieges may make things interesting at launch. ATM though ESO offers large scale pvp that I can get into almost instantaneously where-as I've been unable to find it in AA, besides 1 sided zergs in Halcyona.
21 year MMO veteran
PvP Raid Leader
Lover of The Witcher & CD Projekt Red
Honest it is weird but with this mmo. I like the post like this.
The OP is right and I bet millions will share his view. And I would rather the people who want a more WoW style mainstream experiance to not flood into AA. Sure it will cost the devs money upfront. But we will avoid the 2million sub boom then fall down to a fraction of that most mmo have. I would rather see this game launch is low number compaired to most mmo and grow as word gets out.
In AA a massive population drop will be horrific. Game needs populated servers to work. IF there is a boom then bust we will have many dead servers, and unlike games with instanced housing there is so much land in AA it would be almost impossible to merge servers without screwing people over. Land and the position of land just has too high of an importance in AA.
But on topic if you love TESO, you will probably hate AA. The games are almost on opposite ends of the spectrum.
AA is a game based on Guild vs Guild game with horizontal development. Quest,Instance Dungeons, and story line take a back seat to everything else. You cannot trust anyone outside your guild in this game and you cannot really do half the stuff without it. It is your lifeline.
Teso and many other mainstream mmos are focusing on making sure solo players can experiance most the content. Story, quest lines, and instances are the focus because it allows for unimpeded progression. The game is designed on verticle progression where 1 event leads to another which leads to another. Everyone is suppost to be friends outside pvp.
I wish AA sorta had the best of everything honestly, but it does not. And in my opinion it is focusing on the right part. Quest suck in AA, but that is alot better then say being pigeon holed into a quest grind to cap. Or being forced to grind dungeon after dungeon after dungeon night after night with nothing else to do.
If you want a game that is based on intersting story, engaging quest lines, soloability, and fairness all around. DO NOT PLAY AA. But remember if you do, I will steal your trade packs and kill you and make you waste that hour you spent farming and making them . Me and my guild will thank you >.>
yes but still they enjoy it, it doesnt matter what's good to you, is bad for others
But I don't find ESO quests mundane at all. I find them interesting and integral to the overall story of the game. But as I said in my OP, it is my opinion coupled with the style of gameplay I enjoy. I will certainly give AA another shot when it goes live, but as a paying customer. Then I can truly see how I feel about the game. But for now, I will continue to enjoy ESO.
So, I gave my opinion on AA based after playing for about 15 levels. I cited some things that I liked and did not like. I explained my play style and added that I currently play another game that I enjoy. Where is this post a troll? Or is it that you just do not like my point of view?
We all have the right to disagree on game style. As for the labor point grind... What I meant was that to play the content that interests me, either I have to either pay a subscription or just wait around grinding quests or mobs until more labor points drip back into my account. I know that it will not be very fun to do, but I can understand why the system is in place.
Nothing to fear then because there is no change with archeage..it's another themepark pretending to have sandbox features.
I hope you're joking, otherwise I'd feel kind of bad for you.
This ^, it is a real F2P game. Where you spend money to get items that regular sub players get by paying there sub.
You don't get overpower or anything like that in a real F2P game and this is what it is!! Now if you like the game pay for the sub and voila all your problems go away. I love this kind of F2P games.
Edit : i never would have said that in the past but now that i see this game using a real F2P option in there game i am starting to like it. ( Sub if you wish full access else get a few restriction by playing with the F2P option ) The restriction at least are not over the top like in other games.
TL:DL version
ESO = PvE focus with some casual PvP
AA = PvP focus with some casual PvE (+ plus insane grind gear)
l2p
Bought ESO and for me it was one of the biggest disapointments in mmo gaming i ever played.
I had tons of more fun in SWTOR.
The thing with Archeage is that its not a solo playable game and it opens up when you have your friends with you and love to pvp.
Its also something carebears will not ever like as its open world full pvp, specialy when you want to run tradepacks to the other continent.
I love it, i cant get enough of it, but then again i have been playing these themepark wow copy's for almost a decade now so i am happy XLgames / Trion is brining something totaly diffrent this time.
To each his own ?
Have fun in ESO with your timetrial speedruns with staffs m8 o/
AA is not a Solo game, ESO is.
AA is PvP centric, ESO is PvE.
Play what you enjoy!
Im not kidding, AA is not a very solo friendly game. If your goin solo, your not goin to like it at all. Me and some friends made a Family. We shared a house and 2 farms. We also built a boat. Explored the pirate island, the other factions continent. NONE of wich would have been possible to do on my own. We did things for a goal. We budgeted our labor points. We combined our resources to get us a boat, and a house and the farms.
I am Patron, love the game. NOT suggesting you drop $150 on AA, but Im very happy on the $50 I spent so far.
AA not a solo mmo, you need people to work with to get what you want. ITs what I couldnt get out of ESO, even though I liked ESO a lot. I think AA has more of what I want.
Theres a lot of misinformation on this forums. Im not goin to correct it. Play the freaking game, learn what you need to do. Its a really good open world, sandboxy kinda thing
PS: the wiki for AA is your friend. Use it! The game has what I think is a VERY steep learning curve.
Man I literally could not even get 3 hours in ESO Beta.
To each his own I guess... have fun grinding those vet levels...