You cant own land,but a friend subscriber can,and he can let you use his land.
You cant build a house,but you can share a house with a friend subscriber...
You cant capture castels,but if you are not a guild leader that dosnt matter much
You get less labor points (they are used for doing everything ingame except farming mobs,building,farming,crafting..ect)
You cant list items in the auction house.
What you can do....
You can build your ship,same as any subscriber
You can pvpget any gear as any subscriber (arena also)
You can buy items from the auction house.
you can accese all the land,dungeons ect
Basicly people that subscribe get to control the economy and make money faster and easier,they also get the lauxery of having their own houses just for fun,but tehy dont have special exclusive itemsskills or what ever,which seems fair to me
Cash shop will have exp boost potions,Labor points regen potions cosmetics and exlusive mountspets
Another important point,you can buy patron statues (subscribtion) with ingame currency
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That sounds fucking awful. I can't think of any F2P I've played lately that locks that much content behind the paywall. Pretty sure I won't be playing this other than to mess with people in it until that gets boring too. They'll need to massively revise that model if they plan to have a real F2P population for very long that isn't just there to Troll them.
Care to name one free to play mmo that you can do more in ?
On it's own yes these limits don't seem very bad, but the one limitation which makes it the worst model Imho is the Lp restrictions. Everybody so far has said F2P players will run out of LP in a heartbeat unless they play really casually or use the shop or sub, once it's gone you can't take part in pretty much anything until it recharges. combat and one other thing and that's it. Blocking gameplay, any content that needs Lp you can't do until then. No other F2P mmo i know does that. I would say let them at least regen it offline or give 1k more.
Just so people know i'm not saying give them everything, of course not, i'm just saying loosen the grip a bit just so all type of players can enjoy .
To the OP and others that may be thinking about playing AA and haven't tried it out. I would use the F2P to really see if you like the game. Some things about AA may drive you nuts. Some don't like Asian games, others may not like tab targeting, others may see the crafting system or heck, PvP system boring. With some games, I can tell in a single play session that the game won't be a good fit for me. I wasn't overly impressed with AA when I first played but I gave it a shot and got rather addicted. I decided to become a patron my second beta go around. I want to see all facets of the game and the subscription is worth it for me. If you find yourself really liking the game, well worth it to buy a month sub.
We have several F2P players in our guild and believe me, our guild is doing everything to make their play sessions good ones. I suspect that as these players continue to play the game, they may eventually decide to pick up a sub. If not, folks are willing to help them along.
There are indeed hefty limitations to being F2P but as already mentioned. there are other games out there that do the same thing. To really enjoy the whole package, you need to belly up and buy a sub. Open beta starting tomorrow so give it a shot. You may end up hooked like me. Good luck and don't write it off. Pretty fun game.
You cant own land,but a friend subscriber can,and he can let you use his land.
You cant build a house,but you can share a house with a friend subscriber...
You cant capture castels,but if you are not a guild leader that dosnt matter much
You get less labor points (they are used for doing everything ingame except farming mobs,building,farming,crafting..ect)
You cant list items in the auction house.
What you can do....
You can build your ship,same as any subscriber
You can pvpget any gear as any subscriber (arena also)
You can buy items from the auction house.
you can accese all the land,dungeons ect
Basicly people that subscribe get to control the economy and make money faster and easier,they also get the lauxery of having their own houses just for fun,but tehy dont have special exclusive itemsskills or what ever,which seems fair to me
Cash shop will have exp boost potions,Labor points regen potions cosmetics and exlusive mountspets
Another important point,you can buy patron statues (subscribtion) with ingame currency
.
After reading you can't post things on the AH as F2P I was about to toss the game off my computer. Then I read that last point about being able to get patron status in game.
Working the auction house has always been one of my main means of making money on any given MMO.
It is same as Rift where you can not post in AH without 5000 loyalty points, which can be earned just by playing the game and buying 2 REX and using them to gain loyalty(and also cash shop currency, lots of it) in Rift, i am pretty much sure that will be same here in AA. you can directly trade with players as much as you like, unlike some other so called f2p games. F2P model from Trion is very very free to play, more so than any other company that lets you play everything for free and then sell end game gears only in cash shop. Their f2p model is also the reason why they don't make as much money as those horrible pay2win companies because trion gives away way too much for free.
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You cant own land,but a friend subscriber can,and he can let you use his land.
You cant build a house,but you can share a house with a friend subscriber...
You cant capture castels,but if you are not a guild leader that dosnt matter much
You get less labor points (they are used for doing everything ingame except farming mobs,building,farming,crafting..ect)
You cant list items in the auction house.
What you can do....
You can build your ship,same as any subscriber
You can pvpget any gear as any subscriber (arena also)
You can buy items from the auction house.
you can accese all the land,dungeons ect
Basicly people that subscribe get to control the economy and make money faster and easier,they also get the lauxery of having their own houses just for fun,but tehy dont have special exclusive itemsskills or what ever,which seems fair to me
Cash shop will have exp boost potions,Labor points regen potions cosmetics and exlusive mountspets
Another important point,you can buy patron statues (subscribtion) with ingame currency
.
That sounds fucking awful. I can't think of any F2P I've played lately that locks that much content behind the paywall. Pretty sure I won't be playing this other than to mess with people in it until that gets boring too. They'll need to massively revise that model if they plan to have a real F2P population for very long that isn't just there to Troll them.
Care to name one free to play mmo that you can do more in ?
On it's own yes these limits don't seem very bad, but the one limitation which makes it the worst model Imho is the Lp restrictions. Everybody so far has said F2P players will run out of LP in a heartbeat unless they play really casually or use the shop or sub, once it's gone you can't take part in pretty much anything until it recharges. combat and one other thing and that's it. Blocking gameplay, any content that needs Lp you can't do until then. No other F2P mmo i know does that. I would say let them at least regen it offline or give 1k more.
Just so people know i'm not saying give them everything, of course not, i'm just saying loosen the grip a bit just so all type of players can enjoy .
LP is the core game mechanics. Everything in AA revolves around LP and that is how XLgames designed it. If you have problem with LP you should take it up with them. But you will have no luck there as in Korean version there is no LP regen, only LP pots and also there is no monthly subscription in Korean version, only that every person who have a house have to spend outrageous amount of cash shop coin to keep their farms. korean f2p model is awesome, isn't it? You wanna go give it a try? You should be actually thanking Trion because they gave both subscriber and free players a reasonable LP regen and not going pay2win like Korean version. But who knows, the way people are bashing Trion they might get pissed off and decide to directly follow Korean f2p model, I would do that if i were them.
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Question: Does AA have Eve style scamming yet and is it (or will it) be allowed like Eve?
Can you con players out of gold/Plex like thingies?
Will the only cost for scamming someone be make believe prison (with REALLY short jail sentences)?
Well, you can con someone in any MMO.
ArcheAge does open up some new avenues of scamming however, such as selling your labor and running off with the proceeds, or selling protection services and ratting out your customers to the pirates.
Whether that's a bad thing is in the eye of the beholder.
Question: Does AA have Eve style scamming yet and is it (or will it) be allowed like Eve?
Can you con players out of gold/Plex like thingies?
Will the only cost for scamming someone be make believe prison (with REALLY short jail sentences)?
Well, you can con someone in any MMO.
ArcheAge does open up some new avenues of scamming however, such as selling your labor and running off with the proceeds, or selling protection services and ratting out your customers to the pirates.
Whether that's a bad thing is in the eye of the beholder.
It's F2P, and if you want to be a hardcore crafter you probably will want to pay. All though, I never not had LP during Alpha, and I crafted every now and then. Anyone who spends their entire LP and buys the 12 cool down hour LP potions really have too much time on their hand. There wasn't anything really P2W until the Apex real cash for in game gold system they just announced. Which just hurts the economy? But at least it "might" stop gold farmers/sellers... People can spend a shit ton of real life currency to get better gear but doesn’t help their PVP skills and their ability to be in a decent guild that knows how to fight.
So don't listen to the childish people saying it isn't F2P. Anyone who says AA F2P is not going to work is a bit ignorant. If you find not having enough LP or tired of using a friends farm and want to Sub because you really like the game that much, go for it.
This is just sad, very very sad. I was not going to play the game because of it owpvp centric gameplay but after this even if there was a slight chance that i may have given it a try is now gone. One way or another it converted to pay2win even in western market. Shameful.
Boobs are LIFE, Boobs are LOVE, Boobs are JUSTICE, Boobs are mankind's HOPES and DREAMS. People who complain about boobs have lost their humanity.
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On it's own yes these limits don't seem very bad, but the one limitation which makes it the worst model Imho is the Lp restrictions. Everybody so far has said F2P players will run out of LP in a heartbeat unless they play really casually or use the shop or sub, once it's gone you can't take part in pretty much anything until it recharges. combat and one other thing and that's it. Blocking gameplay, any content that needs Lp you can't do until then. No other F2P mmo i know does that. I would say let them at least regen it offline or give 1k more.
Just so people know i'm not saying give them everything, of course not, i'm just saying loosen the grip a bit just so all type of players can enjoy .
To the OP and others that may be thinking about playing AA and haven't tried it out. I would use the F2P to really see if you like the game. Some things about AA may drive you nuts. Some don't like Asian games, others may not like tab targeting, others may see the crafting system or heck, PvP system boring. With some games, I can tell in a single play session that the game won't be a good fit for me. I wasn't overly impressed with AA when I first played but I gave it a shot and got rather addicted. I decided to become a patron my second beta go around. I want to see all facets of the game and the subscription is worth it for me. If you find yourself really liking the game, well worth it to buy a month sub.
We have several F2P players in our guild and believe me, our guild is doing everything to make their play sessions good ones. I suspect that as these players continue to play the game, they may eventually decide to pick up a sub. If not, folks are willing to help them along.
There are indeed hefty limitations to being F2P but as already mentioned. there are other games out there that do the same thing. To really enjoy the whole package, you need to belly up and buy a sub. Open beta starting tomorrow so give it a shot. You may end up hooked like me. Good luck and don't write it off. Pretty fun game.
It is same as Rift where you can not post in AH without 5000 loyalty points, which can be earned just by playing the game and buying 2 REX and using them to gain loyalty(and also cash shop currency, lots of it) in Rift, i am pretty much sure that will be same here in AA. you can directly trade with players as much as you like, unlike some other so called f2p games. F2P model from Trion is very very free to play, more so than any other company that lets you play everything for free and then sell end game gears only in cash shop. Their f2p model is also the reason why they don't make as much money as those horrible pay2win companies because trion gives away way too much for free.
Boobs are LIFE, Boobs are LOVE, Boobs are JUSTICE, Boobs are mankind's HOPES and DREAMS. People who complain about boobs have lost their humanity.
LP is the core game mechanics. Everything in AA revolves around LP and that is how XLgames designed it. If you have problem with LP you should take it up with them. But you will have no luck there as in Korean version there is no LP regen, only LP pots and also there is no monthly subscription in Korean version, only that every person who have a house have to spend outrageous amount of cash shop coin to keep their farms. korean f2p model is awesome, isn't it? You wanna go give it a try? You should be actually thanking Trion because they gave both subscriber and free players a reasonable LP regen and not going pay2win like Korean version. But who knows, the way people are bashing Trion they might get pissed off and decide to directly follow Korean f2p model, I would do that if i were them.
Boobs are LIFE, Boobs are LOVE, Boobs are JUSTICE, Boobs are mankind's HOPES and DREAMS. People who complain about boobs have lost their humanity.
Player run econ system, Plex type trading...
Question: Does AA have Eve style scamming yet and is it (or will it) be allowed like Eve?
Can you con players out of gold/Plex like thingies?
Will the only cost for scamming someone be make believe prison (with REALLY short jail sentences)?
No trials. No tricks. No traps. No EU-RP server. NO THANKS!
...10% Benevolence, 90% Arrogance in my case!
Well, you can con someone in any MMO.
ArcheAge does open up some new avenues of scamming however, such as selling your labor and running off with the proceeds, or selling protection services and ratting out your customers to the pirates.
Whether that's a bad thing is in the eye of the beholder.
Beholder says he likes it!
It's F2P, and if you want to be a hardcore crafter you probably will want to pay. All though, I never not had LP during Alpha, and I crafted every now and then. Anyone who spends their entire LP and buys the 12 cool down hour LP potions really have too much time on their hand. There wasn't anything really P2W until the Apex real cash for in game gold system they just announced. Which just hurts the economy? But at least it "might" stop gold farmers/sellers... People can spend a shit ton of real life currency to get better gear but doesn’t help their PVP skills and their ability to be in a decent guild that knows how to fight.
So don't listen to the childish people saying it isn't F2P. Anyone who says AA F2P is not going to work is a bit ignorant. If you find not having enough LP or tired of using a friends farm and want to Sub because you really like the game that much, go for it.
Can't wait to pay a sub and pay $150 at launch and start taking names!!!! /sarcasm
Looking forward to: Crowfall / Lost Ark / Black Desert Mobile
The game has officially gone Pay2win, the "real" in game currency can now be bought from Cash shop. Check the link below :-
http://forums.archeagegame.com/showthread.php?35572-ArcheAge-Open-Beta-Marketplace-Changes
This is just sad, very very sad. I was not going to play the game because of it owpvp centric gameplay but after this even if there was a slight chance that i may have given it a try is now gone. One way or another it converted to pay2win even in western market. Shameful.
Boobs are LIFE, Boobs are LOVE, Boobs are JUSTICE, Boobs are mankind's HOPES and DREAMS. People who complain about boobs have lost their humanity.