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League of Legends: Think eSports Aren't Real Sports? Take a Look

SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129

Riot Games has released the first in a trio of videos that follows several gamers as they make their way to the League of Legends World Championships this fall. The first profiles three LoL players and chronicles their careers within the game, all leading up to the championships. Check it out and let us know what you think!






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  • OzmodanOzmodan Member EpicPosts: 9,726

    They are not real sports.  People watch sports because they don't have the physical skills to do what the athletes can do.  Anyone can pick up a game and play it.  Even handicapped people have the tools to play them.  What is the point of watching esports when most of us would much rather play the game ourselves.

  • ExcessionExcession Member RarePosts: 709

    It all depends on what you class as physical exertion and skill.

    If you think sitting in a chair, using a mouse/keyboard counts as physical exertion and skill, for you, eSport is Sport.

    If you do not think sitting in a chair, using a mouse/keyboard counts as physical exertion and skill, for you eSport is not Sport.

     

     

    A creative person is motivated by the desire to achieve, not the desire to beat others.

  • Russ915Russ915 Member CommonPosts: 4
    Don't need to brong handicapped people into this. Your point about physical sports applies to esports. If you take soccer for example its relatively free to play but people watch it because they enjoy watching the best of the best play at a highly competitive level. A level that the average person could never compete.
  • AnirethAnireth Member UncommonPosts: 940
    Everyone can run, jump etc, but that doesn't mean you can do 100 meters in 9.x seconds or jump > 2 meters. Still, eSports is not a "real" sport, but neither is chess or poker etc.

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  • anonentityanonentity Member UncommonPosts: 36

    You should clarify what your definition of a 'sport' is before you have a discussion about it.

     

    To me, Moba's are like watching a fantasy football league play out.

     

    Dull. Dull. Dull.

     

     

  • GrafvonRotzGrafvonRotz Member UncommonPosts: 27

    Sport (or sports) is all forms of usually competitive physical activity.

    Electronic sports (or esports) is a term for organized video game competitions.

    Thats why one is called esports and the other one sports. Two different things, end of story.

  • HorusraHorusra Member EpicPosts: 4,411
    Technically "sport" is any competition or game between two parties. One of those parties does not even have to know they are competing.
  • truewarlordtruewarlord Member UncommonPosts: 78

     People talk so much nonsense nowadays. Why talk about a subject you do not know?

    The origin of sports is ancient. Among the Egyptians sports had undoubtedly a military purpose. For this reason the dispute were strictly physical. But, with the passage of time and the human evolution, several  other types of sport appeared .

    There are reports of sports that were practiced in ancient Greece, that were totally based on intelligence, which have been forgotten with time.

     

    So when you are talking about sports, you're not talking about a strictly  physical competition. This is not an opinion, it is a fact. 

    Sports are games where there are disputes of skill.

    Of course, our culture will not allow that a new game become a sport without resistance. However, be aware that eSports are a real trend. 

    The main features in eSport, in my opinion, that will overcome the cultural barrier, are:

    - Necessity of an absurd level of skill.

    - The need for constant training to stay competitive.

    - Necessity of teamwork.

    - The absurd investments that companies like Riot and VALVE are doing.

  • Alber_gamerAlber_gamer Member UncommonPosts: 588
    So much envy in this thread.

    My opinion is my own. I respect all other opinions and views equally, but keep in mind that my opinion will always be the best for me. That's why it's my opinion.

  • AldersAlders Member RarePosts: 2,207

    They should really consider using something like eComps instead.

    Sports they are not.

  • goth1cgoth1c Member UncommonPosts: 79
    This isnt sport....

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  • CrazKanukCrazKanuk Member EpicPosts: 6,130
    Originally posted by Alber_gamer
    So much envy in this thread.

    This so much, lol.

     

    Either that or this forum is filled with people who are just THAT good that the skill of others is dwarfed by their own. Meh, yeah, that's probably the case. 

    Crazkanuk

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  • CrazKanukCrazKanuk Member EpicPosts: 6,130
    Originally posted by goth1c
    This isnt sport....

    Much like hunting, bowling, archery, lawn bowling, racing, anything equine, fishing, anything shooting. 

    Crazkanuk

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  • MazovskiMazovski Member UncommonPosts: 2
    It's not a sport, it's e-sport. I don't why people try to jutify that it's a sport. Just keep playing the game people who gives a shit.
  • CrazKanukCrazKanuk Member EpicPosts: 6,130
    Originally posted by Mazovski
    It's not a sport, it's e-sport. I don't why people try to jutify that it's a sport. Just keep playing the game people who gives a shit.

    Ummm, because as soon as anyone says something like e-sport, people immediately say "It's not a sport" so then the e-sport lovers fire back at the NA folk with something like, "Neither is NASCAR" then all hell breaks loose. 

    Crazkanuk

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  • mayankingmayanking Member UncommonPosts: 162
    moba's should never be considered a e sport considering you never start on even terms in a game. but hey whatever sells to the sheep. :P
  • kosaboykosaboy Member UncommonPosts: 50

     

    Of course e-sports are not real sports thats why they are called 'E- SPORTS' 

  • ExcessionExcession Member RarePosts: 709
    Originally posted by truewarlord

     People talk so much nonsense nowadays. Why talk about a subject you do not know?

    The origin of sports is ancient. Among the Egyptians sports had undoubtedly a military purpose. For this reason the dispute were strictly physical. But, with the passage of time and the human evolution, several  other types of sport appeared .

    There are reports of sports that were practiced in ancient Greece, that were totally based on intelligence, which have been forgotten with time.

     

    So when you are talking about sports, you're not talking about a strictly  physical competition. This is not an opinion, it is a fact. 

    Sports are games where there are disputes of skill.

    Of course, our culture will not allow that a new game become a sport without resistance. However, be aware that eSports are a real trend. 

    The main features in eSport, in my opinion, that will overcome the cultural barrier, are:

    - Necessity of an absurd level of skill.

    - The need for constant training to stay competitive.

    - Necessity of teamwork.

    - The absurd investments that companies like Riot and VALVE are doing.

    If you look at the etymology of the word "sport", you would see that your "fact" is only your opinion.

    While they may have had many types of contests in ancient times, they did not have any type of sport.

    A creative person is motivated by the desire to achieve, not the desire to beat others.

  • DamonVileDamonVile Member UncommonPosts: 4,818
    Originally posted by Ozmodan

    They are not real sports.  People watch sports because they don't have the physical skills to do what the athletes can do.  

    You don't have the skill to be a world class LL player any more than you have the skills to play in the NFL so how then does this not make it a sport ?

    Anyone can pick up a football just like anyone can play LL. That doesn't mean you'd make it as a pro.

  • IncomparableIncomparable Member UncommonPosts: 1,138
    Originally posted by Ozmodan

    They are not real sports.  People watch sports because they don't have the physical skills to do what the athletes can do.  Anyone can pick up a game and play it.  Even handicapped people have the tools to play them.  What is the point of watching esports when most of us would much rather play the game ourselves.

    I feel the same way about sports, and only watch others play sports like its soft core porn. Other than that, I prefer to play the game myself.

     

    however in games there is a lot more to learn from a video gamer pro than a sports pro. Sports are common sense, but video games are based on the logic of developers and thus there are exploits that are not so obvious.

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  • XthosXthos Member UncommonPosts: 2,740

    I view things such as video games as a skill, not a sport.  I don't really care though if people call it one or not, way before esports, they had some real life activities classified as sports and they sounded odd too.  So I think for many it is being stuck in a traditional sense of thinking, not jelousy or hate towards some guy with a controller.  I just woke up, so I cannot remember what the original event was that brought this classification argument to my attention, so I will say a semi-recent one was curling, when it became an Olympic sport, I know a lot of people saw some of the guys out of shape using a broom and people had a lot of jokes about it, saying it wasn't a real sport.  Pool/Poker, I view those more as skills, than athletes, but I know the definition is blurred, just a personal view.  So maybe I personally view team sports as more of a sport, than individual sports, in general, but not in all cases (i.e. Olympic type wrestlers, boxers, mma, etc...).  So looking at those exceptions of mine, they all have physical exertion, and harm, so maybe that's what I see missing from like esports, pool and poker (and others).

     

    Just my opinion, and again, don't really care if people call them sports or athletes along with it.

     

     

  • CrazKanukCrazKanuk Member EpicPosts: 6,130
    Originally posted by Torvaldr

    Originally posted by GrafvonRotz

    Sport (or sports) is all forms of usually competitive physical activity.

    Electronic sports (or esports) is a term for organized video game competitions.

    Thats why one is called esports and the other one sports. Two different things, end of story.

    Pretty much.

    Originally posted by CrazKanuk

    Originally posted by goth1c
    This isnt sport....

    Much like hunting, bowling, archery, lawn bowling, racing, anything equine, fishing, anything shooting. 

    So I guess the "e" versions of those are sports too. If so I've won the Masters in golf for several years now.

    All sports are competitive, not all competitions are sports, at least not in the modern world. Words change and evolve. eSports are not sports. Notice the difference in your examples? They're all physically competitive activities in the real world. eSports is its own real thing, but it's not reality. The reality is they're competing in video games. The virtual "e" reality is whatever that environment is.

    Well, if we want to really be picky, then video games are also physical, if not more physical than some of those. Shooting, for instance, requires little or no physical activity. 

     

    I'm fine with the differentiation between eSports and Sports. I would have absolutely no qualm with that, other than every single time this conversation comes up, people seem to think that there is no difference between what these people are doing and what they are doing on their couch at home and, if only they had 12 hours a day to just sit and play it, they could be the best at it too. That's just entirely crap. I love the football example give here too. It's like saying that if you had 12 hours a day, you could easily play in the NFL. Unfortunately, it trivializes whatever sets the high-end games apart from others. It might be more neurological than physical, I can accept that. What I can't accept is that you could be just as good given the right time to practice. 

    Crazkanuk

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  • truewarlordtruewarlord Member UncommonPosts: 78
    Originally posted by Excession
    Originally posted by truewarlord

     People talk so much nonsense nowadays. Why talk about a subject you do not know?

    The origin of sports is ancient. Among the Egyptians sports had undoubtedly a military purpose. For this reason the dispute were strictly physical. But, with the passage of time and the human evolution, several  other types of sport appeared .

    There are reports of sports that were practiced in ancient Greece, that were totally based on intelligence, which have been forgotten with time.

     

    So when you are talking about sports, you're not talking about a strictly  physical competition. This is not an opinion, it is a fact. 

    Sports are games where there are disputes of skill.

    Of course, our culture will not allow that a new game become a sport without resistance. However, be aware that eSports are a real trend. 

    The main features in eSport, in my opinion, that will overcome the cultural barrier, are:

    - Necessity of an absurd level of skill.

    - The need for constant training to stay competitive.

    - Necessity of teamwork.

    - The absurd investments that companies like Riot and VALVE are doing.

    If you look at the etymology of the word "sport", you would see that your "fact" is only your opinion.

    While they may have had many types of contests in ancient times, they did not have any type of sport.

    Could you guys stop talking nonsense please? Dear god... Do not talk about something you do not know or understand.

    your opinion about what is or is not sport, it is completely meaningless.

     SportAccord, the international sports federation association, recognises five non-physical sports. Go among them. That is all.

    And about etymology, "Sport" comes from the Old French desport meaning "leisure", with the oldest definition in English from around 1300 being "anything humans find amusing or entertaining"

     

     
  • rnor6084rnor6084 Member UncommonPosts: 111
    Not a sport.
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