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What killed EVE Online for me? CCP themselves.
All the false promisses and lies just got to me in the end, after playing it for years. Seeing so many People in my Corp/Alliance leave and quit. I just gave up and moved on. Never looked back.
well played eve and even promoted eve online with ccp
Started as a invite from a dev soo I been playing a far bit
What killed my intrests was ccp cancelled the WiS project
Where promised walk in stations own my own bar have my own shop in station of my liking
be able to rent corp office and alot more
I didnt quit as many seem to think becouse of the wis or CQ implentation in eveo that is retarded thinking.
I think I was the last one standing of the old playerbase after 6 month of starring on a contactlist who glowed red
I quit
Why I write this is becouse of eve /ccp need to rethink the CSM (stop listning to a bunch of hippies narrow minded bs) isnt the people that pay your hummer or your kids schooling.
Its the playerbase who paid in real cash from the start ...Who you screwed over...
MMORPG trend that kills me is this idea that MMOrpgs need to be designed
in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOrpgs.
People that like single player game stay there
Dont ruin my mmorpg....
MMORPG trend that kills me is this idea that MMOrpgs need to be designed
in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOrpgs.
People that like single player game stay there
Dont ruin my mmorpg....
I am no expert on EVE, by any stretch of the imagination. I tried their 14 day trial, though.
What made decide NOT to purchase and subscribe was that I spent more time NOT playing the game than I did playing it. I don't consider not being logged on as playing the game, even though the character progresses. It may change later on, but for that short time, I would cue up skills and log off, not being to do much more than that until my skills got better. I think I could have mined, and mined, and mined while waiting, but my "hold" got full and until I could start using the materials, I had no place to put the mining efforts.
Again, this is ONLY the very first part of the game. I did not get further so it may get better. I guess I could get more than 1 account, just to play while other accounts do their skill thingy, but that seems kind of odd to me.
- Al
Personally the only modern MMORPG trend that annoys me is the idea that MMOs need to be designed in a way to attract people who don't actually like MMOs. Which to me makes about as much sense as someone trying to figure out a way to get vegetarians to eat at their steakhouse.- FARGIN_WAR
The code of the pessimistic loner: "We unpopular loners are realists, who follow the three non- popular principles: Not having any (Hope), Not making any (Gaps in your heart); And not giving into (Sweet talk)".
the biggest issue i have with EvE is the mega, ultra rich, corporations that own all of null sec.
Sure you can go in there and mess around and come back out, but there is no frontier anymore, no empty lawless space anymore. every sector is someone's back yard, with player made rules and tolls, and politics. if they don't want you in there they will send 10 guys to obliterate you. it's not fun.
So then you are pretty much left with joining one of the mega corps, and then you become a cog in the machine, nothing more. pilot number 1023. read your damn corp news. follow the damn corp rules. be ready to do as you are told by the corp.
there is no sense of freedom anymore. it's either boring PVE high sec or become some one pawn in null sec.
You mistake cause for effect.
Altough unfortunate, it is understandable you approached the game like any other - you tried to progress through power scale. EVE is not designed that way though.
The game is very open from the get go, you just need to know what is out there for you and cueing up skills won't help you with that.
Instead of waiting, I would advise you to read up about the game features and try them out for yourself, take your time to explore the game and mechanics.
Long time ago, I posted about a 1-2 days old trial toon making 1 billion ISK, does that sound to you like "not much to do until my skills get better"?
What's the problem with this? All MMos should be a bunny and pony loving utopia where everyone gets along? I dunno about you but what drew me to EVE was the promise that it is a distopia unlike any other MMO out there. Why should all MMOs conform to this idea that all players should "win" instead why not let the players themselves work towards winning against other players. Too many games recently have been spoon-feeding its player base. EVE is a diamond in the rough where the players can actually make their own way.
Your argument boils down to competition in a game is bad because it makes some players feel bad because they are bad at competing, why should I pay money to feel bad in a game. The question you should be asking is why should I play a competitive game if I can't stomach losing. Games weren't originally about making every player who plays the game feel good. I dunno where this idea emerged from but games, especially multiplayer games at their core were about competition, winners and losers, if everyone is a winner its not really a game. At least this was the idea when I started gaming in 2000, gradually this idea that everyone should "win" came about and IMO its ruined gaming especially in the MMO realm.
You mistake cause for effect.
He's totally right tho. I've said it back then allready, when they introduced carriers, which were used for transporting stuff into and out of NULL. Then they made it even worse by introducing the jumpbridges and jumpfreighters.
I was in one of these larger alliances from the very beginning, and we needed several dozen people for POS-maintenance and fleets to protect the haulers back then in 2004/2005.
When we got the carriers to work with, we suddenly only needed half the personnel for the same workload, and we didn't rely on support-fleets anymore to guard the convoi of haulers.
When we got the jumpbridges and finally jumpfreighters, we were suddenly able to do all the work with as little as a handful of people.
So yes. Making it easier and easier to maintain these large chunks of space has ruined the game, and we lost alot of smaller spaceholding alliances and/or corps with a couple of towers in low-sec etc, as all that was now taken over by the couple of huge powerblocks.
It shouldn't be possible to maintain a complete NULL-region with as little as a handful of people - we're talking dozens of POS here - let alone being able to run the whole moon-mining-business with that same handful of people.
Being able to jump all the goods in and out of NULL that easy takes away all the risk.
you played wrong game ,just EVE is not for you,I am so sorry
He's totally right tho.
He is mistaken, yet he is totaly right. /sigh
No, he is flat out wrong, same as you are.
Larger group can do more than smaller group and jump drives, jump bridges or w/e mechanics cannot change anything about that.
He is erronously blaming the game mechanics while the fact remains that power blocks are dominating the game because they are simply power blocks - it is what they are supposed to do, that is what they are formed for.
And then, you falsely assume that maintenance of owned space has any relevance to area you control. You do not need to own the area you want to control.
If current power blocks had only half owned space, it would not stop them in any way to wipe out anyone from same area size they control now - they will do it because they simple can, because they are bigger than anyone else.
As I said before, you mistake cause for effect.
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He's totally right tho.
He is mistaken, yet he is totaly right. /sigh
No, he is flat out wrong, same as you are.
Larger group can do more than smaller group and jump drives, jump bridges or w/e mechanics cannot change anything about that.
He is erronously blaming the game mechanics while the fact remains that power blocks are dominating the game because they are simply power blocks - it is what they are supposed to do, that is what they are formed for.
And then, you falsely assume that maintenance of owned space has any relevance to area you control. You do not need to own the area you want to control.
If current power blocks had only half owned space, it would not stop them in any way to wipe out anyone from same area size they control now - they will do it because they simple can, because they are bigger than anyone else.
As I said before, you mistake cause for effect.
From my experience, jumpdrives, jumpbridges and jumpfreighters are the problem. I've been there in 2004 when they were'nt available and I've seen the game change into what it is now after they were introduced and more and more pilots were able to use them.
Yet you try to tell me that your oppinion is the only right one might have.
Without these options of fast movement of large forces or ressources and equipment, the big alliances wouldn't grow as big and stay smaller, controlling a smaller area.
Good for you, you are still wrong tho.
If my powerblock has 15k people and your power block has 5k people, I will wipe the floor out with you regardless of carriers, titans, jump drives, jumpr bridges or w/e. And I do not need to own a single 0.0 system.
And that is not an opinion, it is well reasoned argument.
In 2004 the game had very low population to form any kind of power capable to control 0.0. You make incorrect conclusions again.
Making things more difficult or tedious won't help anything. EVE without jump drives and jump bridges would only loose 0.0 dynamics, making it less enjoyable for everyone.
Where there is a will, there is a way.
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Now playing GW2, AOW 3, ESO, LOTR, Elite D
Good for you, you are still wrong tho.
If my powerblock has 15k people and your power block has 5k people, I will wipe the floor out with you regardless of carriers, titans, jump drives, jumpr bridges or w/e. And I do not need to own a single 0.0 system.
And that is not an opinion, it is well reasoned argument.
In 2004 the game had very low population to form any kind of power capable to control 0.0. You make incorrect conclusions again.
Making things more difficult or tedious won't help anything. EVE without jump drives and jump bridges would only loose 0.0 dynamics, making it less enjoyable for everyone.
Where there is a will, there is a way.
Yeah right... BoB, ASCN, CV, D2, etc were'nt big powerblocks back then. They only had some few thousand characters each.
You fool yourself, if you think jumpdrives and jumpbridges have nothing to do with the state of the game.
You need not to be fast when you are big. You might lose a battle due slow reaction but you will win the war, always.
The inevitable will happen.
Nice strawman but no.
Pretty much shows you were not around back then...
rpg/mmorg history: Dun Darach>Bloodwych>Bards Tale 1-3>Eye of the beholder > Might and Magic 2,3,5 > FFVII> Baldur's Gate 1, 2 > Planescape Torment >Morrowind > WOW > oblivion > LOTR > Guild Wars (1900hrs elementalist) Vanguard. > GW2(1000 elementalist), Wildstar
Now playing GW2, AOW 3, ESO, LOTR, Elite D
rpg/mmorg history: Dun Darach>Bloodwych>Bards Tale 1-3>Eye of the beholder > Might and Magic 2,3,5 > FFVII> Baldur's Gate 1, 2 > Planescape Torment >Morrowind > WOW > oblivion > LOTR > Guild Wars (1900hrs elementalist) Vanguard. > GW2(1000 elementalist), Wildstar
Now playing GW2, AOW 3, ESO, LOTR, Elite D
Nice strawman but no.
Pretty much shows you were not around back then...
Haha... look up the numbers from back then, and don't forget to count the associates please, those who are within the alliances of today.
BoB back then wasn't just BoB, but you need to count MC and all of these associates. Same goes for the other big entities from back then.
The corp and alliance-management back then simply didn't allow for as much members, but that doesn't say much about the powerblock as a whole.
FFA PVP.
That's what it comes down to. It leads to everything wrong with the game.
It taking so long to get into the game wouldn't hurt if it wasn't FFA and players had a chance to get some strength without having to whore themselves out for protection...and there wouldn't be massive guilds controlling everything if there wasn't FFA.
It creates a pack mentality. By having PvP regulated to specific areas there is no need for everyone to join together like you end up with in FFA games.
"People who tell you youre awesome are useless. No, dangerous.
They are worse than useless because you want to believe them. They will defend you against critiques that are valid. They will seduce you into believing you are done learning, or into thinking that your work is better than it actually is." ~Raph Koster
http://www.raphkoster.com/2013/10/14/on-getting-criticism/