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7.4 mil? More like 450-500k subs at best...
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You do realise that the main focus of WoW is actually PVE right?
WoW has PVP but its fairly casual, although on some servers it can be fairly intense, but if PVP is really your thing, then you really need to roll on a dedicated PVP server if your going to make it your main focus.
As for the ratings your going by, i think your barking up the wrong tree, that and the sources you use seem a bit, iffy..
How is this guy a spotlight poster lmao?
If you go check ratings on WoWs website: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/pvp/leaderboards/3v3#page=80 you can see at page 80, 5,000 characters in, the lowest rating is 2400. There's probably 15,000+ 2k+ rated players just in 3s, you obviously didn't count very well.
The reason why you can't find people to arena with is because of your attitude partly, and also because most good players don't use OQ and have friends they play with.
By the way, you couldn't find out of 660 people, 1 or 2 people to arena with? I'd love to see how you interact with people then lol.
Just an idea... but maybe find some real friends to PVP with... I know it's a shocker, playing games with friends instead of strangers... but these are desperate times which require desperate measures.
LOL, you guys kill me.
Alternatively, i mean it is an MMO and all, and it might be a bit of a radical idea, but he could always get to know the other players on the server, make a few friends even. It seems crazy, but even though games do increasingly support solo gameplay, that doesn't mean you have to stop socialising too.
Come to think of it though, the last time i hung around in a bar socialising and watching the girls dancing, was in SWG
My thought exactly.
Lulz @ this thread.
Yeah they did and if you put in 136 hours each month you pay the same as Chinese players an hour...It is still not that much but more than before, the new free zone is about it and it also states that Wow is losing players over there pretty fast now (but then I am not sure how accurate the numbers are, he states 800K players have left Q2 and most of those were in China).
Wow is however still making loads of cash. Heck it would even if every last player where from China and they aren't.
How much active players Wow exactly can be discussed, do you count any Chinese players with time on their timecards, anyone who logged in once or a certain number of times the last month or maybe anyone who bought time this month? Each would give you a different number.
It would be interesting to know exactly how they count (anyone here knows?) but what truly matters is that it still earns plenty of money and that Blizzard still makes expansions even if they update it more rarely now than they did in the beginning.
Blizzard is quite open about it..... http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/press/pressreleases.html?id=7473409
World of Warcraft’s Subscriber Definition
World of Warcraft subscribers include individuals who have paid a subscription fee or have an active prepaid card to play World of Warcraft, as well as those who have purchased the game and are within their free month of access. Internet Game Room players who have accessed the game over the last thirty days are also counted as subscribers. The above definition excludes all players under free promotional subscriptions, expired or cancelled subscriptions, and expired prepaid cards. Subscribers in licensees’ territories are defined along the same rules.
James T. Kirk: All she's got isn't good enough! What else ya got?
That sure is a lot of typing to bump your troll thread.
If you're 2k rating you don't need to worry about finding the perfect comp, look where it got you in the end, trolling a forum talking about WoW, any comp (almost) this season could've gotten Gladiator pretty easily if you played enough, MMR was boosted sky high this season, if there was ever a time to get Gladiator this would've been the season.
Somebody who's called a spotlight poster shouldn't be making threads like this to begin with, how could you link a raid progress website as proof of your theory that Blizzard made up 6.9 million subscriptions just because nobody wanted to PvP with you? You're either trolling or you have other issues, neither of which should be allowed on a forum, let alone from somebody with a fairly exclusive title on this website.
I'm still new to this site, maybe this stuff happens quite regularly, it just seems like something that'd normally not be allowed.
Do not underestimate the ability of people to proceed forward under full power with a wrong-headed idea. Especially on these forums. We all have our blind spots. Later you'll probably read a post from Kopogero and be amazed that it came from the same person.
I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.
this. i really cant stop laughing at that big wall of text he just posted lol
Spotlight poster? Really?
How much does it cost to get that title? Is it cheaper or more expensive than paying for a good review?
All that means is the title holder started a thread that had enough replies to get it temporarily pinned up at the top of the forum. You know, with those threads titled "Sandbox vs Themepark Discussion Thread", "The 'Group Play vs Solo Play in an MMO' Thread" and "XFire - As MMO population estimation tool ".
A guy thinks blizzard is bullshitting on their numbers a bit and you find offense with that? I see no problem with the OP stating their opinion, even if it is probably a bit over the top. I do love how when anyone has any criticism about a game, there is always the fanatic that will step up. I mean seriously, this guy can have an opinion and so can you, but attacking him as a person seems very fucking fanatical to me. You dont know this guy and you dont know how he behaves socially, but you are very fucking quick to say he has a horrible attitude and probably cant make friends. Isnt it a bit ironic how you are doing to him what he is doing to WoW...
You obviously have an inflated view about how this website conducts business. Wasnt there a spotlight post about " myths of paid reviews ".
He claims they are exaggerating their numbers by damn near 7 million. I think that qualifies as more than "a bit". He then uses a site that tracks raid progress, not population, and his own anecdotal evidence of "gosh guys, no one wants to pee vee pee with me" as proof. It's a troll post and it has worked beautifully.
Opinions are not lies. I honestly believe that WoW's NA numbers are probably around 1mil. I could give a shit about how many players WoW has in Asia because I dont play with them. I only care about what affects my game play. I gave you my opinion is based on anecdotal evidence, which means very little, but shit, its still my opinion and in no way does my opinion or any others equate to a lie. Being incorrect is not the same thing as telling a lie.
What I dont get is why people take this shit so fucking personal, as if they hold 50% of Blizzards or any other developers stock. Its entertainment and we like to talk about it.
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It was expected. Reality is the majority who still frequent the WOW forum are still interested in the game and can't wait for the expansion. Not long ago I made a detailed thread why WOW is still one of the best choices a MMO gamer can do today when the expansion comes. It certanly is not the best choice for gaming though. Today is 2014 and the amount of options, choices one has, the competition and so forth. For me personally WOW does not worth the cost anymore to see myself playing it as I have over the decade. I sincerely hope the best for it though. It's always plus for all of us gamers if there is more great MMO out there to prosper.
As someone who played for 9 years on and off right now the 6th most populated server (horde side) I never felt I was part of a server with the numbers even wowprogress displays. Yes, I'm talking about Bleeding Hollow. I knew most of the players, especially the guilds, the PvP'ers and so forth. Honestly, could I have known a lot of the players if they were in the tens of thousands? If also majority of the players did not raid or PvP what exactly they were doing while they were subbed to the game where you can level chrs so quickly and get to raid/pvp?
Yes, my opinion is mine and others have their opinions. At the end everything comes from Blizzard and if I actually wanted to get accurate info I would read threads from its customers/players and their experiences with the game rather than the company who's best interest is to promote itself in any possible way it can.
Calm down, bro. Not sure why you'd try to lecture Paigey on attacking posters when you are flying off the handle. Might be time for you to take a little nap.
Also, let's be realistic here, no offense to the OP, but the premise of this thread is pretty ludicrous. WoW with only 400-500k subs? <shakes head in disbelief>
Somebody's not very good at math.