So many blizzard apologists its hilarious. Keep it going guys, you're going to surpass the TESO whiteknights in these boards. attaboy
They straightforward lied about being under DDoS, just like Trion and every other MMO studio. Fact of the matter is, nobody gives a shit about those studios to DDoS them for no profit. They had massive surge in players and still did nothing. An year ago at least Square Enix stopped sales to accomodate the already paying bunch. That's why they have a good name at the moment. Blizzard however ..... well ... lets just say this is not the blizzard from 10 years ago.
You don't need to apologize on the behalf of a massive gaming company that rips people off. They have PR teams for that. Let those guys work a little to earn their salaries. Stop doing their job
You are an absolute moron, go find some windows to lick.
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Those of you not in the Uk wont realise this but watchdog is part of our industry regulation here that reports on companies which abuse the consumer by selling faulty products, products which aren't fit for purpose or sold as advertised and companies following bad practices.
It is similar to crimewatch which reports violent crime with photos to look for witnesses.
It is a public service and does not troll companies for no reason which is why it is so well trusted like crime watch.
If it is doing a report on Blizzard, they would be doing it for legitimate reasons and Blizzard must have ripped off the customer.
No it isn't
It is a weekly TV program with no real power except naming and shaming a company, it is not part of the industry regulatory body what so ever
Many items on the program arent in reference to anyone being ripped off - we get things like poor mobile phone signal, slow delivery times, energy pricing - it is sensationalist TV!
I already covered this too. I mentioned they report on several different abuses of the public such as goods being sold not fit for purpose, goods not being sold as advertisied or companies following bad practices.
Read the whole passage instead of defending wow so blindly that you attack an actual oversight body of bad company practices in the UK.
Its not a troll program, if they reported on Blizzard, its because blizzard ripped off their customers somehow.
If it is doing a report on Blizzard, they would be doing it for legitimate reasons and Blizzard must have ripped off the customer.
Or they simply don't understand how gaming works.
The WoD launch was far smoother than most launches. Bugs are going to slip through the cracks even after beta testing. That's simply how it works. A company is only fraudulent if months after launch those same bugs are still there.
What the BBC watchdog should take a look at is company's that charge money for ALFA or BETA games that never actually come out.
I thought I already covered this. They don't report on small companies which affect very few people.
They only report on big abuses of the uk public just like crimewatch doesn't report every crime in the uk, just the most violent ones.
Not very credible if a bunch of whiney piss-babies is all it takes to get them to "take notice".
Blizzard is one of the fairest, most moral gaming studios that has ever existed. Get your head out of your ass.
If it is doing a report on Blizzard, they would be doing it for legitimate reasons and Blizzard must have ripped off the customer.
Or they simply don't understand how gaming works.
The WoD launch was far smoother than most launches. Bugs are going to slip through the cracks even after beta testing. That's simply how it works. A company is only fraudulent if months after launch those same bugs are still there.
What the BBC watchdog should take a look at is company's that charge money for ALFA or BETA games that never actually come out.
I thought I already covered this. They don't report on small companies which affect very few people.
They only report on big abuses of the uk public just like crimewatch doesn't report every crime in the uk, just the most violent ones.
This isn't a "One Company" problem, it is an industry wide problem. Go on steam and look at how many games are being sold that are in BETA, or even worse ALFA.
I thought I already covered this. They don't report on small companies which affect very few people.
They only report on big abuses of the uk public just like crimewatch doesn't report every crime in the uk, just the most violent ones.
No, that is just not correct, they report on the stories which will gain the most attention, quite often stories they cover have a handful of complaints!
What does Crimewatch have to do with Watchdog? Crimewatch is information supplied by the police to try to find people who have committed crime - its a totally different show.
What consumer rights abuses have Blizzard done?
I have just been honest about what Watchdog is that is all. I dont really care which stories they do and dont report as it is just throw away TV
I bet none of you are in the UK. I bet the next thing you will do is berate crimewatch if it reports on a mugger who you blindly support like you do wow much like you berate watchdog for reporting consumer rights abuses carried out by companies.
What does Crimewatch have to do with Watchdog? Crimewatch is information supplied by the police to try to find people who have committed crime - its a totally different show.
What consumer rights abuses have Blizzard done?
Watch watchdog to find out what comsumer rights abuses its done unless ofc you aren't in the uk and are just trolling.
I bet none of you are in the UK. I bet the next thing you will do is berate crimewatch if it reports on a mugger who you blindly support like you do wow much like you berate watchdog for reporting consumer rights abuses carried out by companies.
You like exaggerating don't you. No one is berating watchdog for reporting consumer rights abuses carried out by companies, we are simply pointing out, in this case they are wrong. Either they don't understand how gaming works, or they are just trying to get viewers by being sensational.
Either way, one of us was logged in the first day of WoD, and saw it was a good launch with a few normal problems, one of us quit with MoP and didn't see that in general the launch went well.
I bet none of you are in the UK. I bet the next thing you will do is berate crimewatch if it reports on a mugger who you blindly support like you do wow much like you berate watchdog for reporting consumer rights abuses carried out by companies.
Abuses? Not sure if serious.....? All those abuses are self inflicted... as are any folks suffer through pre0ordering..buying day 1 etc... People shouldn't need an oversight committee to know better and just wait...
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I bet none of you are in the UK. I bet the next thing you will do is berate crimewatch if it reports on a mugger who you blindly support like you do wow much like you berate watchdog for reporting consumer rights abuses carried out by companies.
Abuses? Not sure if serious.....? All those abuses are self inflicted... as are any folks suffer through pre0ordering..buying day 1 etc... People shouldn't need an oversight committee to know better and just wait...
I hardly think miss selling or selling products not fit for purpose are the consumers fault. Neither do our consumer watchdogs in the UK, personally I am glad they report on these things in the UK and you don't have a say or judging from what you say anytime a company abuses the consumer, its the consumer's fault. Go figure.
I bet none of you are in the UK. I bet the next thing you will do is berate crimewatch if it reports on a mugger who you blindly support like you do wow much like you berate watchdog for reporting consumer rights abuses carried out by companies.
You like exaggerating don't you. No one is berating watchdog for reporting consumer rights abuses carried out by companies, we are simply pointing out, in this case they are wrong. Either they don't understand how gaming works, or they are just trying to get viewers by being sensational.
Either way, one of us was logged in the first day of WoD, and saw it was a good launch with a few normal problems, one of us quit with MoP and didn't see that in general the launch went well.
This post is just excuses by people berating watchdog because they blindly support Blizzard, lets shut down Ofcom next and crimewatch right?
How is pointing out, they are wrong in this case asking for crimewatch to be shut down? It's like you are saying 1+1= 25. You are using leaps in logic that aren't there.
Watch watchdog to find out what comsumer rights abuses its done unless ofc you aren't in the uk and are just trolling.
I suggest you watch watchdog and see many stories they show that do not concern any abuse of rights - such as tonights "BT are slow to install my internet" story
The reason i asked you was to see if you think Blizzard have committed any abuse of rights over their problems recently
I am glad that our consumer rights oversight bodies in the UK don't answer to WoW fans because according to you the company is always right and the consumer is always wrong.
Personally, I think its good that we have oversight bodies in the UK which report on abuses carried out by big companies but hey maybe that's just me or the UK.
I am glad that our consumer rights oversight bodies in the UK don't answer to WoW fans because according to you the company is always right and the consumer is always wrong.
Personally, I think its good that we have oversight bodies in the UK which report on abuses carried out by big companies but hey maybe that's just me or the UK.
Go Figure.
like i say i am not a wow fan, but blizzard have not ripped anyone off what so ever
you are putting very strange assumptions in place, saying we ask for crimewatch to close and the consumer is always wrong? where did that come from?
i agree having regulation is a good thing across the different industries but you need to realise Watchdog is not part (wait i said last time i wont say it again doh)
i think you may well be trolling or had a few too many budweisers tonight so have fun but im done here
Watch watchdog to find out what comsumer rights abuses its done unless ofc you aren't in the uk and are just trolling.
I suggest you watch watchdog and see many stories they show that do not concern any abuse of rights - such as tonights "BT are slow to install my internet" story
The reason i asked you was to see if you think Blizzard have committed any abuse of rights over their problems recently
Btw I love how you try to lie to or hide facts to cover up your blind support for Blizzard,
That report on broadband not being installed was about how BT broadband was paid to install broadband for an entire block of flats but it took the 8 monthes to set it up despite being paid for 8 monthes for a whole block of flats.
That's a pretty big abuse and its good they reported on it like they reported on Blizzard for abuse.
Don't try to lie like a fanboy, say all the facts.
Edit: Btw it wasn't just broadband, it was phone lines too.
I am glad that our consumer rights oversight bodies in the UK don't answer to WoW fans because according to you the company is always right and the consumer is always wrong.
Personally, I think its good that we have oversight bodies in the UK which report on abuses carried out by big companies but hey maybe that's just me or the UK.
Go Figure.
Don't you find it weird "Consumers" of WoW are saying the WoD launch was a pretty solid launch?
So if consumers are defending the company maybe the show has it wrong?
After all it is a consumer rights oversight body... Shouldn't it listen to the consumer?
I am glad that our consumer rights oversight bodies in the UK don't answer to WoW fans because according to you the company is always right and the consumer is always wrong.
Personally, I think its good that we have oversight bodies in the UK which report on abuses carried out by big companies but hey maybe that's just me or the UK.
Go Figure.
Don't you find it weird "Consumers" of WoW are saying the WoD launch was a pretty solid launch?
So if consumers are defending the company maybe the show has it wrong?
After all it is a consumer rights oversight body... Shouldn't it listen to the consumer?
Go figure.
its not going to report if only a small minority of consumers are ripped off or the abuse to a small minority is small. Its only if the abuse is large or a large amount of people are affected.
In this case a large amount of people were affected, the people who weren't affected or the fanboys who lie to support blizzard despite being affected obviously aren't reported on but enough were abused by Blizzard to warrant a public outcry by a consumer watchdog in the uk.
Of course it's a good thing. As a well respected global journalistic organization, I trust the BBC to investigate and portray this fairly. The fanboys saying we should never criticize Blizzard "cos they would never rip anyone off evar!" scare me. All big corporations screw their customers to a certain extent. It's part of their nature.
Btw I love how you try to lie to or hide facts to cover up your blind support for Blizzard,
That report on broadband not being installed was about how BT broadband was paid to install broadband for an entire block of flats but it took the 8 monthes to set it up despite being paid for 8 monthes for a whole block of flats.
That's a pretty big abuse and its good they reported on it like they reported on Blizzard for abuse.
Don't try to lie like a fanboy, say all the facts.
Edit: Btw it wasn't just broadband, it was phone lines too.
ok ok 1 last bite...
i haven't lied or hidden any facts your imagination is running wild!(watchdog can be watched on the iplayer right now what am i hiding?)
if bt had abused its customers then ofcom (the actual regulatory body) would be involved in the case - but it isnt
sure the service BT gave those people in the flats wasn't great - but that is not a breach of anyones rights
it is not a right to have the internet which is why the solution was (to paraphrase) "bt have said they are sorry and will do better from now on and you can now contact them directly"
The feature is simply Watchdog sensationalising bad customer service like i said they do many posts ago
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I already covered this too. I mentioned they report on several different abuses of the public such as goods being sold not fit for purpose, goods not being sold as advertisied or companies following bad practices.
Read the whole passage instead of defending wow so blindly that you attack an actual oversight body of bad company practices in the UK.
Its not a troll program, if they reported on Blizzard, its because blizzard ripped off their customers somehow.
Not very credible if a bunch of whiney piss-babies is all it takes to get them to "take notice".
Blizzard is one of the fairest, most moral gaming studios that has ever existed. Get your head out of your ass.
This isn't a "One Company" problem, it is an industry wide problem. Go on steam and look at how many games are being sold that are in BETA, or even worse ALFA.
No, that is just not correct, they report on the stories which will gain the most attention, quite often stories they cover have a handful of complaints!
1st, i dont play wow or like it, but a MMO having bugs and some downtime and being compensated as a player is not news worthy - simple as
2nd Watchdog do not only report on "rip offs" they report on so much crap that is out of the direct hands of the company itself sometimes
Last time I will say it but BBC Watchdog is not part of any regulatory body, it is a TV program, nothing more
What does Crimewatch have to do with Watchdog? Crimewatch is information supplied by the police to try to find people who have committed crime - its a totally different show.
What consumer rights abuses have Blizzard done?
I have just been honest about what Watchdog is that is all. I dont really care which stories they do and dont report as it is just throw away TV
Watch watchdog to find out what comsumer rights abuses its done unless ofc you aren't in the uk and are just trolling.
You like exaggerating don't you. No one is berating watchdog for reporting consumer rights abuses carried out by companies, we are simply pointing out, in this case they are wrong. Either they don't understand how gaming works, or they are just trying to get viewers by being sensational.
Either way, one of us was logged in the first day of WoD, and saw it was a good launch with a few normal problems, one of us quit with MoP and didn't see that in general the launch went well.
Abuses? Not sure if serious.....? All those abuses are self inflicted... as are any folks suffer through pre0ordering..buying day 1 etc... People shouldn't need an oversight committee to know better and just wait...
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
I hardly think miss selling or selling products not fit for purpose are the consumers fault. Neither do our consumer watchdogs in the UK, personally I am glad they report on these things in the UK and you don't have a say or judging from what you say anytime a company abuses the consumer, its the consumer's fault. Go figure.
How is pointing out, they are wrong in this case asking for crimewatch to be shut down? It's like you are saying 1+1= 25. You are using leaps in logic that aren't there.
I suggest you watch watchdog and see many stories they show that do not concern any abuse of rights - such as tonights "BT are slow to install my internet" story
The reason i asked you was to see if you think Blizzard have committed any abuse of rights over their problems recently
I am glad that our consumer rights oversight bodies in the UK don't answer to WoW fans because according to you the company is always right and the consumer is always wrong.
Personally, I think its good that we have oversight bodies in the UK which report on abuses carried out by big companies but hey maybe that's just me or the UK.
Go Figure.
like i say i am not a wow fan, but blizzard have not ripped anyone off what so ever
you are putting very strange assumptions in place, saying we ask for crimewatch to close and the consumer is always wrong? where did that come from?
i agree having regulation is a good thing across the different industries but you need to realise Watchdog is not part (wait i said last time i wont say it again doh)
i think you may well be trolling or had a few too many budweisers tonight so have fun but im done here
Btw I love how you try to lie to or hide facts to cover up your blind support for Blizzard,
That report on broadband not being installed was about how BT broadband was paid to install broadband for an entire block of flats but it took the 8 monthes to set it up despite being paid for 8 monthes for a whole block of flats.
That's a pretty big abuse and its good they reported on it like they reported on Blizzard for abuse.
Don't try to lie like a fanboy, say all the facts.
Edit: Btw it wasn't just broadband, it was phone lines too.
Don't you find it weird "Consumers" of WoW are saying the WoD launch was a pretty solid launch?
So if consumers are defending the company maybe the show has it wrong?
After all it is a consumer rights oversight body... Shouldn't it listen to the consumer?
Go figure.
its not going to report if only a small minority of consumers are ripped off or the abuse to a small minority is small. Its only if the abuse is large or a large amount of people are affected.
In this case a large amount of people were affected, the people who weren't affected or the fanboys who lie to support blizzard despite being affected obviously aren't reported on but enough were abused by Blizzard to warrant a public outcry by a consumer watchdog in the uk.
The older I get the dumber people get.
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Idiocracy man... it's all the inbreeding of dumb people
Of course it's a good thing. As a well respected global journalistic organization, I trust the BBC to investigate and portray this fairly. The fanboys saying we should never criticize Blizzard "cos they would never rip anyone off evar!" scare me. All big corporations screw their customers to a certain extent. It's part of their nature.
ok ok 1 last bite...
i haven't lied or hidden any facts your imagination is running wild!(watchdog can be watched on the iplayer right now what am i hiding?)
if bt had abused its customers then ofcom (the actual regulatory body) would be involved in the case - but it isnt
sure the service BT gave those people in the flats wasn't great - but that is not a breach of anyones rights
it is not a right to have the internet which is why the solution was (to paraphrase) "bt have said they are sorry and will do better from now on and you can now contact them directly"
The feature is simply Watchdog sensationalising bad customer service like i said they do many posts ago