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ceratop001ceratop001 Member RarePosts: 1,594
This company is just horrible and treats their players with no respect. They have systematically destroyed Rift PVP in order to move the player base to AA. Now AA is is starting to fall apart. Many players are deeply saddened by the current leadership and wish for a change. 
 
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  • EverketEverket Member UncommonPosts: 244
    Wild accusations with no substance makes for poor discussions.
  • zaberfangxzaberfangx Member UncommonPosts: 1,796
    So far I been getting more respect at trion then blizzard game me for many years I played.
  • GestankfaustGestankfaust Member UncommonPosts: 1,989

    AA is "starting to fall apart"? "starting"?

     

    o.O

    "This may hurt a little, but it's something you'll get used to. Relax....."

  • TalonsinTalonsin Member EpicPosts: 3,619

    I dont know what the deal is but with AA, it sure seems like Trion is hands-off.  Very little forum moderation, a picture of Hartman with private parts in his face was top of the forums for almost 6 hours before it was removed.  There are very few GM's in-game.  You would think each server would have one but that is not the case in AA.  My guess is there are 4 or 5 for all 21 servers and it is rare that one pokes his head in the game.  There is also little communication except for a short PR statement like when Auroria launched poorly and they said only a few people could not log in or when the marketplace credit duping happened and they said it was only 12 people.

     

    When Rift launched, I loved Trion.  After Defiance, I gave them a pass and considered it an unlucky failure but now after AA I really feel the actual talent has left Trion and they are scrambling for revenue, hence the cash grab that is AA.  I mean, what other game makes you buy a potion to restore labor so you can have fun in the game? 

    "Sean (Murray) saying MP will be in the game is not remotely close to evidence that at the point of purchase people thought there was MP in the game."  - SEANMCAD

  • GeezerGamerGeezerGamer Member EpicPosts: 8,857
    Originally posted by Talonsin

    I dont know what the deal is but with AA, it sure seems like Trion is hands-off.  Very little forum moderation, a picture of Hartman with private parts in his face was top of the forums for almost 6 hours before it was removed.  There are very few GM's in-game.  You would think each server would have one but that is not the case in AA.  My guess is there are 4 or 5 for all 21 servers and it is rare that one pokes his head in the game.  There is also little communication except for a short PR statement like when Auroria launched poorly and they said only a few people could not log in or when the marketplace credit duping happened and they said it was only 12 people.

     

    When Rift launched, I loved Trion.  After Defiance, I gave them a pass and considered it an unlucky failure but now after AA I really feel the actual talent has left Trion and they are scrambling for revenue, hence the cash grab that is AA.  I mean, what other game makes you buy a potion to restore labor so you can have fun in the game? 

    I was a huge fan of Rift and Trion during Vanilla Rift. Then they brought in the Cash Shop. No big deal really. All they did was move exactly and only what was available on their website to an in-game interface. Just Name changes, game time, account upgrades, etc. No gear, nothing that was usable by any character, even cosmetic.......With the exception of the account upgrade mount. But that was available from pre-release, so it didn't really bother me at all.

    However, looking back, I think that was the foot in the door.

  • zaberfangxzaberfangx Member UncommonPosts: 1,796
    Originally posted by Talonsin

    I dont know what the deal is but with AA, it sure seems like Trion is hands-off.  Very little forum moderation, a picture of Hartman with private parts in his face was top of the forums for almost 6 hours before it was removed.  There are very few GM's in-game.  You would think each server would have one but that is not the case in AA.  My guess is there are 4 or 5 for all 21 servers and it is rare that one pokes his head in the game.  There is also little communication except for a short PR statement like when Auroria launched poorly and they said only a few people could not log in or when the marketplace credit duping happened and they said it was only 12 people.

     

    When Rift launched, I loved Trion.  After Defiance, I gave them a pass and considered it an unlucky failure but now after AA I really feel the actual talent has left Trion and they are scrambling for revenue, hence the cash grab that is AA.  I mean, what other game makes you buy a potion to restore labor so you can have fun in the game? 

    Only if there talents was not over in xl games coding the game for them. but cash grab all over the place, AA can be cash grab if you log in, then if trion said that to play must pay us 5.99 to log in to the game,  sound like many mmo other there that do that is cash grab. and yes AA have a type of pay to win is only up to who looks at it pay to win, as pay to win is all over the place this days.

  • ArtificeVenatusArtificeVenatus Member UncommonPosts: 1,236
     
  • greatskysgreatskys Member UncommonPosts: 451
    I don't see any reason to believe the changes to PVP in the recent expansion have been designed to make people move over to Archeage . Having said that I don't like how they have incorporated pvp and pve gear into one thing . I've got to 65 and I just thought I really can't be bothered to do all this again . I spent time getting some of the legendary Myrmidan gear and had a lot of fun doing it so it wasn't a waste but I just don't like the idea of the all in one gear . Its just a personal preference but if they had intended to get me to move over to AA (which I doubt) its backfired because its actually made me try WoW again especially with the battle chess on a black friday deal .  I guess what it comes down to is as much as I detest Pandas I detest incorporated pve and pvp gear more . 
  • shawn01shawn01 Member UncommonPosts: 166

    Archage has the worst customer service, by far, of any game i have ever played. 2 weeks after i purchased my membership, my account was hacked. They took all my gold and sold everything i had of value.

     

    That was over 2 weeks ago.

     

    Still havent heard from a CSR.

     

    There is no number to call to talk to a real human being.

     

    The live chat is a joke. They just keep increasing the time in the wait queue. 3 days in a row i came home from work and tried to get a live chat. Every time i waited until their live chat hours which end at 7pm were over.

     

    Scammers. Thats what Trion are.

     

    For all i know they stole my gold. I have been playing mmos since 2001 and never gotten an account hacked.

     

    I played Archage for less than a month and got hacked.

     

    Just horrible. Not to mention the stupid cash shop that ruined the best game to come out in years.

     

    NEVER again TRINO.

  • filmoretfilmoret Member EpicPosts: 4,906
    Blizzard is doing it so everyone else has to do it.  That's the sad thing about marketing.  They failed to realize why they put pvp gear into the game in the first place now they are failing to realize why they are making it the same gear again.  What a bunch of non mmo playing corporate daddy's kids.
    Are you onto something or just on something?
  • LerxstLerxst Member UncommonPosts: 648

    I'm an AA exile and I can verify that the game is "falling apart". I left a few weeks prior to Auroria because I saw the writing on the wall with how *well* everything else they tried to release for it went. The moderation is also a joke: I recall at one point there were half a dozen gold spamming posts on the forums and I kept bumping one to the top slot just to prove how poorly moderated their forums were - it was there for about half a day before it was taken down.

     

    Trion is no longer a publisher worthy of trusting in my books, and might as well join the ranks of GPotato when it comes to cash-grab releases.

  • xpowderxxpowderx Member UncommonPosts: 2,078

    All I can say is this:  http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/431/view/forums/thread/423266/Trion-Worlds-Disappointment.html

    Trion is no longer in any way, shape or form on my computer.  It will stay that way!

  • SiugSiug Member UncommonPosts: 1,257
    I consider Trion to be in the same league with Craptic now. Which means I don't and won't play anything touched by Trion.
  • VolgoreVolgore Member EpicPosts: 3,872

    I'm surprised the thread made it this long without being locked or deleted and the OP warned/banned.

    Usually speaking out against Trion on these forums grants you instant moderation.

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  • xpowderxxpowderx Member UncommonPosts: 2,078
    Originally posted by Volgore

    I'm surprised the thread made it this long without being locked or deleted and the OP warned/banned.

    Usually speaking out against Trion on these forums grants you instant moderation.

    Most likely its due to the fact there are multiple threads about Trion.  Some with actual evidence.

  • AthisarAthisar Member UncommonPosts: 666
    Awful company, terrible ethics, now only exists for ripping off cash from players who can't resist paying out for RNG boxes.
  • GrableGrable Member UncommonPosts: 66
    Yeah, I've deleted everything connected to Trion from my PC and am not touching anything made or published by them ever again.
  • DibdabsDibdabs Member RarePosts: 3,238
    Originally posted by ceratop001
    This company is just horrible and treats their players with no respect. They have systematically destroyed Rift PVP in order to move the player base to AA. Now AA is is starting to fall apart. Many players are deeply saddened by the current leadership and wish for a change. 

    You haven't exactly provided a wealth of evidence to back your statement up... are you going to soon?

  • DauzqulDauzqul Member RarePosts: 1,982

    ArcheAge...    The perfect example of the best worst game.

     

    I've never seen such a wonderful concept destroyed by p2w marketplace mechanics / gambling box greed.

  • CalmOceansCalmOceans Member UncommonPosts: 2,437

    ArcheAge fell apart in other parts of the world before Trion launched it, it's not like people who had already played it didn't warn everyone else. It seems to be more an issue with ArcheAge than only Trion.

    It's a Korean game, everyone knows they always use a very aggressive P2W cash shop style business model.

    I'm more surprised that some didn't see it coming when everyone else who had played it warned people before the Western launch.

    Before the launch many people who played it said: "It's a P2W game"

    Everyone ignored it

    After launch "omg, it's a P2W game"

    Yes.....people had told you a million times before launch. Maybe listen next time.

     

    If anything Korean games tend to be even more P2W in the West than they are in Korea or China, usually there is a more severe backlash in those regions if they go overboard. In the West people buy $60 founders packs before even having played the game or read any review. The same happened with that SoE landmark game, players in the West much more easily part with their money and Korean companies know this.

  • Lord.BachusLord.Bachus Member RarePosts: 9,686

    All thos complaints come and go with AA...

     

    With Rift their support and service was okay ...

     

    Now ask yourself what is the difference between the two games?

    Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)

  • GeezerGamerGeezerGamer Member EpicPosts: 8,857
    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

    All thos complaints come and go with AA...

     

    With Rift their support and service was okay ...

     

    Now ask yourself what is the difference between the two games?

    During Rift's Vanilla days, Trion had an incredible reputation.  But people said it wasn't sustainable. I guess they were right.

  • xpowderxxpowderx Member UncommonPosts: 2,078

    I was a avid Trion supporter for almost 3 years. Things changed when Trion let Glyph run things and take a step back. I in part blame Trions poor customer support and poor service in part due to Glyph.  Prior to Glyph, Trion was a awesome company.

    Now, they are a horrible company. I might come back to Trion after they clean up all that is wrong now. Especially among customer security.  Until that time, Trion will not see any space on my computer. Even though I do love Rift!

  • KoroshiyaKoroshiya Member UncommonPosts: 265
    Originally posted by CalmOceans

    ArcheAge fell apart in other parts of the world before Trion launched it, it's not like people who had already played it didn't warn everyone else. It seems to be more an issue with ArcheAge than only Trion.

    It's a Korean game, everyone knows they always use a very aggressive P2W cash shop style business model.

    I'm more surprised that some didn't see it coming when everyone else who had played it warned people before the Western launch.

    Before the launch many people who played it said: "It's a P2W game"

    Everyone ignored it

    After launch "omg, it's a P2W game"

    Yes.....people had told you a million times before launch. Maybe listen next time.

     

    If anything Korean games tend to be even more P2W in the West than they are in Korea or China, usually there is a more severe backlash in those regions if they go overboard. In the West people buy $60 founders packs before even having played the game or read any review. The same happened with that SoE landmark game, players in the West much more easily part with their money and Korean companies know this.

    the difference is?

     

    In Russian, using Google translate I actually got help within hours of submitting a ticket.  They knew I was english speaking and tried to respond back in kind with translator, they were kind, helpful and actually looked into the problem quickly.  With Trion, you wait 2-3 weeks for a response and like in my case, I was updating the ticket everyday with updated info (it was related to a bug, I wasn't hounding them for a response but updating on what was changing in the situation) and then you get a response finally after all those weeks and its "I am responding to see if you still need help".  Reply with in seconds to that and had to wait another 2 weeks until I started twittering about how bad the CS was and including Scapes twitter account in the process.  They then finally look at my ticket, they say they see nothing wrong and bam ticket is closed.

    So, as someone who played in 3 territories before NA, I did warn Trion.  I did warn other players about the bugs, but I can live with the hacks and the bugs, as long as they make an attempt to fix them.  RU tried.  RU forced XLGames to do things they wanted, they never used the excuse "We can't cause XLGames won't let us".. its why RU lasted so long on 1.0, while with Trion we get excuses, no responses and overall stupid decisions like unbanning banned players for a "Second chance" 

     

    tldr;

    yes while I played the other territories they had issues, they made actual attempts at curbing a lot of the issues while Trion uses excuses and unbans players who were caught cheating.

    “The people that are trying to make the world worse never take a day off , why should I. Light up the darkness” – Bob Marley

  • KoroshiyaKoroshiya Member UncommonPosts: 265
    Originally posted by GeezerGamer
    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus

    All thos complaints come and go with AA...

     

    With Rift their support and service was okay ...

     

    Now ask yourself what is the difference between the two games?

    During Rift's Vanilla days, Trion had an incredible reputation.  But people said it wasn't sustainable. I guess they were right.

     

    because during that time they were their own "company", now they are owned by investment firms and pensions.  Bean counters own the company now and decisions will always be made that bring in the most beans, even at the total demise of their market brand.  Sad Really but the investors are just raping trion for everything they can before they sell it off I bet.

    “The people that are trying to make the world worse never take a day off , why should I. Light up the darkness” – Bob Marley

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