Go read the OP he said ONE skill you have to repurchase cost 300k. Not the total amount. And if you actually played Swtor you would know anytime they put a credit sink in people cry on the forums. I believe the 50 million for a guild ship hit 50 pages in two days...it got released people paid it and nobody cried again. Same will happen with this. I've never been part of community (the forums are a very small percentage of the actual community) that's loves their ingame currency so much.
I do play TOR... It's my second favorite MMO right now. Doesn't mean I can't see this as being handled poorly. Their oversight is at our (the players) expense.
Interesting (fellow TOR player). What your first?
Out of the current crop, ESO.
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Can´t they just give everyone 100K credits or something?
Or make training free for 0 Credits? At least for 4 weeks or so?
Why? A very small percentage of players are actually crying about this. It's the same who cry about everything. What other MMO charges 0 for skills? Why should Swtor? They have been charging for skills since day one. Players can run enough dailies in ONE day and make enough to pay for all new skills and have a few extra 100k left over.
Ive never seen a forum community (those crying are not the majority of players) cry over ingame currency like they do in Swtor.
Every MMO I've ever played has offered free respecs, or the equivalent when they made major changes such as this, especially when it's forced on you to reskill.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Well you could just use the 300 free basic comms you get for starting the expansion ( Rishi ) to get most of your 300 k back , buy isotope 5 and sell them should get you about 250 k back.
Cheers,
BadOrb.
Voted as the most constructive answer.
Thanks.
No worries , glad to have helped even though you shouldn't have to sell them for retraining. There might be more cost involved though , from levels 56-60 though , but let's not put an even bigger dampener on things right now.
Be aware that you must have finished the forged alliances FP's to get those 300 basic though. There are a few reported bugs. My sniper had no trouble as she had finished forged alliances prior to 3.0. She spoke to the droid on the fleet , used her free ship pass , then clicked on the mission terminal on her ship and landed with the free gifts awarded. On my sentinel though , he traveled to Rishi , no free gifts and got a warning about starting Rishi , but did it anyway. Mind you later on I talked to a purple astromech droid at the start of Rishi and has now got the prelude to SOR mission , so maybe all is not lost. Going to try do Rakata Prime ( the mission he hasn't done yet ) later on tonight.
If anyone is stuck then try deleting any [TACTICAL] mission in your log and trying again. There are more tips in the dev tracker as of today too. Oh and don't delete the prelude to SOR mission though.
Cheers,
BadOrb.
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Well you could just use the 300 free basic comms you get for starting the expansion ( Rishi ) to get most of your 300 k back , buy isotope 5 and sell them should get you about 250 k back.
Cheers,
BadOrb.
Voted as the most constructive answer.
Thanks.
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Well you could just use the 300 free basic comms you get for starting the expansion ( Rishi ) to get most of your 300 k back , buy isotope 5 and sell them should get you about 250 k back.
Cheers,
BadOrb.
Voted as the most constructive answer.
Thanks.
BadOrb = BestOrb.
Why thank you , it seems like I may have overlooked something very important. My friend can't find the isotope 5 on the fleet anymore. So if it has been removed I have a new plan for you. Buy the new Rishi 172 mods on the fleet and sell them instead. I would probably go for barrels and / or hilts. If you sell them in and around this coming Tuesday they will sell for sure as that's the official release date for SOR. Obviously some people will have 300 basic from 100 planetary but they will need more to gear up themselves and their companion.
Oh and yeah there are more skills to train from 56 and 57 ;/ , just a warning.
Cheers,
BadOrb.
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This is just wrong!!!! There is no question to that, if your char had a skill you paid for or bought with RL money, you should not have to pay again. Just WOW!!!!
Originally posted by Nanfoodle This is just wrong!!!! There is no question to that, if your char had a skill you paid for or bought with RL money, you should not have to pay again. Just WOW!!!!
EXCEPT....the op is lying. This is not an issue and the OP made it up. If this were an issue the Swtor forums would be up in arms about it. Instead not ONE THREAD about it on the forums.
Its clear the OP was just hoping he could find someone gullible enough to believe him.
Well buddy he got you hook, line and sinker.
In the future I would recommend you do a little research before believing a random poster on the Internet.
People whine about this, rather easy to solve issue when the sub 50 solo difficulty is broken. You can't do what swtor is most famous for: stories because silvers are broken(I suspect that someone missed ; or switched + for - {or vice versa} ).
Yah, not game breaking at all-and nary a BW post to be found....
Oh shocker you posting another lie about Swtor. Sub 50 is not broken and people are leveling up as we speak...nice try though.
Originally posted by Nanfoodle This is just wrong!!!! There is no question to that, if your char had a skill you paid for or bought with RL money, you should not have to pay again. Just WOW!!!!
EXCEPT....the op is lying. This is not an issue and the OP made it up. If this were an issue the Swtor forums would be up in arms about it. Instead not ONE THREAD about it on the forums.
Its clear the OP was just hoping he could find someone gullible enough to believe him.
Well buddy he got you hook, line and sinker.
In the future I would recommend you do a little research before believing a random poster on the Internet.
Hmm. "Just spent around 50k at the trainer for skills I have already earned." 374 replies, 26,510 views. Pretty sure I read others as well. Are you lying? Trying to give a false impression? Talking about some other official SWTOR forums? I assume you just "missed it" - although it has been on page 1 for a few days now.
This issue bothers some people and Bioware could very easily have e.g.
included 200k with the purchase of Revan to "recognise" that people needed to retrain;
refunded what people paid for their original skills.
suggested that the basic comms (see BobOrb post) were provided to recognise the fact.
Like I said above this doesn't bother me - and probably doesn't bother other grind hardened old stagers. It clearly bothers some though. At the end of the day this is either intended to "add grind" or its a Bioware own goal - that could easily have been avoided. Pretending otherwise does nothing to "promote" (or "defend" ) the game.
While I'm totally ashamed by BioWare ways in the matter I certainly don't want you to miss the game if you like it. The intent was more to warn you as the training cost can be pretty steep on some classes, Commando being the worst ATM.
So here's a trick to help you make money to be able to buy your skills, you don't even need to be geared:
Go to the planet Rishi, jump into the waters and wander around. Here and there you'll find chest holding from 17k to 33k credits plus items. In no time you'll be able to get enough credits to train your skill and eventually buy gear if the 300 comms given aren't enough to gear you and your companion.
To people saying this is a one time thing. It isn't. This is not the first time I've had to rebuy skills on several characters after a patch or update. Many skills I had already paid for prior to changes sometimes more than once already.. Maybe this isn't a big deal to some but I do find it tedious and ridiculous that I have to fork over...sometimes over 100,00 plus credits to rerank /rebuy all my skills again.
To charge for new skills is even uncalled for imo. If I'm max or over the level of the requirement for the skill you would pretty much assume I'd have trained it already, Unless they really think people will hold off on paying all their training costs, just so they can cheat Bioware out of in game money when the next forced respec comes around.
Oh well...
I paid for my abilities. Again. Respecced and really don't notice much of a difference except my Trooper (the only one I've played since the changes) feels a little squishier..and his cannon doesn't have the few extra little volleys that one of the skill trees added. Maybe that's on the mastered list..I hope so..I miss the sound of the little extra "ka-thooms!" it made. : (
While I'm totally ashamed by BioWare ways in the matter I certainly don't want you to miss the game if you like it. The intent was more to warn you as the training cost can be pretty steep on some classes, Commando being the worst ATM.
So here's a trick to help you make money to be able to buy your skills, you don't even need to be geared:
Go to the planet Rishi, jump into the waters and wander around. Here and there you'll find chest holding from 17k to 33k credits plus items. In no time you'll be able to get enough credits to train your skill and eventually buy gear if the 300 comms given aren't enough to gear you and your companion.
Hope that helps.
Yeah...my trooper had 80,000 or so credits and still had to take out a loan from a...gulp..Bounty Hunter.
Originally posted by Nanfoodle This is just wrong!!!! There is no question to that, if your char had a skill you paid for or bought with RL money, you should not have to pay again. Just WOW!!!!
EXCEPT....the op is lying. This is not an issue and the OP made it up. If this were an issue the Swtor forums would be up in arms about it. Instead not ONE THREAD about it on the forums.
Its clear the OP was just hoping he could find someone gullible enough to believe him.
Well buddy he got you hook, line and sinker.
In the future I would recommend you do a little research before believing a random poster on the Internet.
Maybe it's not an issue for you and maybe it's not on the forums. But it is still an issue. Plenty of people were discussing it..initially..in game chat when I was playing. It is an issue for me. Tho not game-breaking I still feel there is enough grind that we shouldn't have to possibly re-grind to pay for stuff we already paid for...and go so far as to say, regarding changed or newly introduced abilities, we shouldn't have to potentially have to grind to pay for stuff we..in all likelihood..would have already purchased having already met the level requirements.
But..it is what it is. So say we all. oops..wrong I.P.
Other people have mentioned that no other mmo does this when the respec is a forced one. I certainly have never encountered this in other mmos. I play Marvel Heroes as well and they are always changing shite around. They also are always giving out respec potions as rewards. I still have 39 respec potions from rewards. The exact amount I've been given. I've never had to use one for a forced respec in that game b/c they always gave them free of charge ...for no ingame money or cash shop potion charge...whenever they made ability changes.
While I'm totally ashamed by BioWare ways in the matter I certainly don't want you to miss the game if you like it. The intent was more to warn you as the training cost can be pretty steep on some classes, Commando being the worst ATM.
So here's a trick to help you make money to be able to buy your skills, you don't even need to be geared:
Go to the planet Rishi, jump into the waters and wander around. Here and there you'll find chest holding from 17k to 33k credits plus items. In no time you'll be able to get enough credits to train your skill and eventually buy gear if the 300 comms given aren't enough to gear you and your companion.
Hope that helps.
You should also be ashamed for posting misleading, inaccurate, borderline lies. I am referring to your accusation that people who paid real money for an ability have to pay again with real money. This is a flat out lie.... and i think you know it is.
Also combining upgraded skills into your totals. Again this is misleading and should not be combined with old abilities. Since day one you had to pay for upgrades.
Originally posted by Nanfoodle This is just wrong!!!! There is no question to that, if your char had a skill you paid for or bought with RL money, you should not have to pay again. Just WOW!!!!
EXCEPT....the op is lying. This is not an issue and the OP made it up. If this were an issue the Swtor forums would be up in arms about it. Instead not ONE THREAD about it on the forums.
Its clear the OP was just hoping he could find someone gullible enough to believe him.
Well buddy he got you hook, line and sinker.
In the future I would recommend you do a little research before believing a random poster on the Internet.
Maybe it's not an issue for you and maybe it's not on the forums. But it is still an issue. Plenty of people were discussing it..initially..in game chat when I was playing. It is an issue for me. Tho not game-breaking I still feel there is enough grind that we shouldn't have to possibly re-grind to pay for stuff we already paid for...and go so far as to say, regarding changed or newly introduced abilities, we shouldn't have to potentially have to grind to pay for stuff we..in all likelihood..would have already purchased having already met the level requirements.
But..it is what it is. So say we all. oops..wrong I.P.
Other people have mentioned that no other mmo does this when the respec is a forced one. I certainly have never encountered this in other mmos. I play Marvel Heroes as well and they are always changing shite around. They also are always giving out respec potions as rewards. I still have 39 respec potions from rewards. The exact amount I've been given. I've never had to use one for a forced respec in that game b/c they always gave them free of charge ...for no ingame money or cash shop potion charge...whenever they made ability changes.
Ok I was commenting on how the guy in green, believes the OP that if you paid REAL MONEY for an ability its gone and you have to pay REAL MONEY again. That is the lie and thats what i was referring to. I was not referring to having to spend 150K ingame currency to relearn a few abilities.
More misleading information by the OP. Once you log in you pay maybe 150K on abilities you used to have, sure i can understand the questioning this. But to go on and claim the upgrades fall into this is factually inaccurate and misleading. Since day one you had to pay for upgraded abilities and this is no different.
Originally posted by Nanfoodle This is just wrong!!!! There is no question to that, if your char had a skill you paid for or bought with RL money, you should not have to pay again. Just WOW!!!!
EXCEPT....the op is lying. This is not an issue and the OP made it up. If this were an issue the Swtor forums would be up in arms about it. Instead not ONE THREAD about it on the forums.
Its clear the OP was just hoping he could find someone gullible enough to believe him.
Well buddy he got you hook, line and sinker.
In the future I would recommend you do a little research before believing a random poster on the Internet.
Hmm. "Just spent around 50k at the trainer for skills I have already earned." 374 replies, 26,510 views. Pretty sure I read others as well. Are you lying? Trying to give a false impression? Talking about some other official SWTOR forums? I assume you just "missed it" - although it has been on page 1 for a few days now.
This issue bothers some people and Bioware could very easily have e.g.
included 200k with the purchase of Revan to "recognise" that people needed to retrain;
refunded what people paid for their original skills.
suggested that the basic comms (see BobOrb post) were provided to recognise the fact.
Like I said above this doesn't bother me - and probably doesn't bother other grind hardened old stagers. It clearly bothers some though. At the end of the day this is either intended to "add grind" or its a Bioware own goal - that could easily have been avoided. Pretending otherwise does nothing to "promote" (or "defend" ) the game.
Did you even read the post I replied to? He mentioned RL MONEY!!! I am not referring to paying for a few abilities with ingame currency. If you want reply to one of my post please try to keep it in the CONTEXT of the conversation, it really shouldnt have been that hard considering his was in BRIGHT GREEN.
training in swtor was fairly expensive especially on a first character, so having to pay again for a character that had already trained all the available abilities would be pretty annoying.
From the very beginning there has been issues like this with this game that just make me think, its not a huge deal by itself but why the hell would you have done it that way? I don't think a group of professional game developers could be that blind, and I don't think they go around thinking of dirty tricks to use on players to make them grind more.
The conclusion I think is most likely is they simply don't have a choice- Like many of this games issues it could go back to the way the game was designed in the first place. Skills where made to be paid for as you leveled up and the was never a easy way to get around that, so they simply don't have a fix for it that wouldn't be painfully time consuming, so they just say "working as intended" and wait for people to get over it.
I wouldn't go back to swtor personally since I've seen all the stories and the endgame has always seemed kinda 3rd rate to me, but if you do find the game fun I think you should just accept that some weird stuff is going to happen like this when they add or change this game even more than it does in other MMO's.
Did you even read the post I replied to? He mentioned RL MONEY!!! I am not referring to paying for a few abilities with ingame currency. If you want reply to one of my post please try to keep it in the CONTEXT of the conversation, it really shouldnt have been that hard considering his was in BRIGHT GREEN.
Yep. I did. Have you asked yourself what people buy - indirectly obviously - with RL money. Boosts to stats; escrow unlocks - whatever. The cash shop is awash with stuff that makes it "easier" for characters to "kill mobs", obtain more in-game currency and so forth. Personally I don't see the need but I think we have to assume that some people - clearly - buy the stuff.
Your bright green comment, btw, was "bought or paid for with RL money" - it wasn't just about RL money. My reply was about the general issue however people acquired the credits. And the fact that there is a large thread + other comments on the official forums - that shows that this is an issue for some. Not you, not me but for some it is. And if they come on here some of the answers will help them, if they need help, get the credits they need. Caskets are often near an elite mob for example.
People whine about this, rather easy to solve issue when the sub 50 solo difficulty is broken. You can't do what swtor is most famous for: stories because silvers are broken(I suspect that someone missed ; or switched + for - {or vice versa} ).
Yah, not game breaking at all-and nary a BW post to be found....
Oh shocker you posting another lie about Swtor. Sub 50 is not broken and people are leveling up as we speak...nice try though.
This isn't him. This is me.
The mobs are stronger than they were before the update. I saw it for myself. Droids in Anchorhead(silver ones) attack players for 450 dmg. That's about 10% hp/attack. Plus the whole game is at least 25% more difficult(silvers). Funnily enough, Gold ones are pushovers. A SNIPER with TERMINATE hit me while inside a Reactive Shield(+25% dmg red) for 350 dmg-a skill I am FAIRLY certain used to deal idk at least 800 on the same enemy(ok on a flat 20% char but still it 'd deal 600 not 350!).
I WELCOME the challenge(I always do), but some "tough" fights became pushovers and some "easy" fights became serious. Idk about you, but I want, for example, Jun Seros to be a challenge, not a random Republic/Empire soldier #345678.
Sure, after I got TacticalPulse, things changed dramatically and yes, I should work on my rotation, but it HAS INCREASED. This is the raw deal.
I'd say that there's a huge spike in l2p due to changed rotations, new skills and LaAaGggG and that once we come out of this phase, everything'll be the same. Ultimately, you're right, but statistically, I am.
That is that.
Broken was the key word i was replying to. I agree its tough and a challenge but it aint broke....
Did you even read the post I replied to? He mentioned RL MONEY!!! I am not referring to paying for a few abilities with ingame currency. If you want reply to one of my post please try to keep it in the CONTEXT of the conversation, it really shouldnt have been that hard considering his was in BRIGHT GREEN.
Yep. I did. Have you asked yourself what people buy - indirectly obviously - with RL money. Boosts to stats; escrow unlocks - whatever. The cash shop is awash with stuff that makes it "easier" for characters to "kill mobs", obtain more in-game currency and so forth. Personally I don't see the need but I think we have to assume that some people - clearly - buy the stuff.
The comment, btw, was "bought or paid for with RL money" - my comment was about the general issue - and the fact that there is a large thread + other comments on the official forums shows that it is an issue for some. Not you, not me but for some it is.
Ok just wasnt sure why you replied to me, when my comment had nothing to do with that issue...
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Out of the current crop, ESO.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Every MMO I've ever played has offered free respecs, or the equivalent when they made major changes such as this, especially when it's forced on you to reskill.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
No worries , glad to have helped even though you shouldn't have to sell them for retraining. There might be more cost involved though , from levels 56-60 though , but let's not put an even bigger dampener on things right now.
Be aware that you must have finished the forged alliances FP's to get those 300 basic though. There are a few reported bugs. My sniper had no trouble as she had finished forged alliances prior to 3.0. She spoke to the droid on the fleet , used her free ship pass , then clicked on the mission terminal on her ship and landed with the free gifts awarded. On my sentinel though , he traveled to Rishi , no free gifts and got a warning about starting Rishi , but did it anyway. Mind you later on I talked to a purple astromech droid at the start of Rishi and has now got the prelude to SOR mission , so maybe all is not lost. Going to try do Rakata Prime ( the mission he hasn't done yet ) later on tonight.
If anyone is stuck then try deleting any [TACTICAL] mission in your log and trying again. There are more tips in the dev tracker as of today too. Oh and don't delete the prelude to SOR mission though.
Cheers,
BadOrb.
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On my Sith Warrior I had to rebuy 3 skills.
1 cost 10k and the other 2 cost 25k.
Leveling through the first 3 levels I made about 500k just from the main story quests.
Not worried about this "massive problem"
Why thank you
, it seems like I may have overlooked something very important. My friend can't find the isotope 5 on the fleet anymore. So if it has been removed I have a new plan for you. Buy the new Rishi 172 mods on the fleet and sell them instead. I would probably go for barrels and / or hilts. If you sell them in and around this coming Tuesday they will sell for sure as that's the official release date for SOR. Obviously some people will have 300 basic from 100 planetary but they will need more to gear up themselves and their companion.
Oh and yeah there are more skills to train from 56 and 57 ;/ , just a warning.
Cheers,
BadOrb.
PSO 4 years , EQOA 4 months , PSU 7 years , SWTOR launch ongoing , PSO2 SEA launch ongoing , Destiny 360 launch ongoing.
"SWG was not fun. Let it go buddy." quote from iiNoSkillzii 10/18/13
The original propoganda pixie dust villain :[]
Playing: varies every day it seems.
EXCEPT....the op is lying. This is not an issue and the OP made it up. If this were an issue the Swtor forums would be up in arms about it. Instead not ONE THREAD about it on the forums.
Its clear the OP was just hoping he could find someone gullible enough to believe him.
Well buddy he got you hook, line and sinker.
In the future I would recommend you do a little research before believing a random poster on the Internet.
Oh shocker you posting another lie about Swtor. Sub 50 is not broken and people are leveling up as we speak...nice try though.Hmm. "Just spent around 50k at the trainer for skills I have already earned." 374 replies, 26,510 views. Pretty sure I read others as well. Are you lying? Trying to give a false impression? Talking about some other official SWTOR forums? I assume you just "missed it" - although it has been on page 1 for a few days now.
This issue bothers some people and Bioware could very easily have e.g.
Hi guys,
While I'm totally ashamed by BioWare ways in the matter I certainly don't want you to miss the game if you like it. The intent was more to warn you as the training cost can be pretty steep on some classes, Commando being the worst ATM.
So here's a trick to help you make money to be able to buy your skills, you don't even need to be geared:
Go to the planet Rishi, jump into the waters and wander around. Here and there you'll find chest holding from 17k to 33k credits plus items. In no time you'll be able to get enough credits to train your skill and eventually buy gear if the 300 comms given aren't enough to gear you and your companion.
Hope that helps.
To people saying this is a one time thing. It isn't. This is not the first time I've had to rebuy skills on several characters after a patch or update. Many skills I had already paid for prior to changes sometimes more than once already.. Maybe this isn't a big deal to some but I do find it tedious and ridiculous that I have to fork over...sometimes over 100,00 plus credits to rerank /rebuy all my skills again.
To charge for new skills is even uncalled for imo. If I'm max or over the level of the requirement for the skill you would pretty much assume I'd have trained it already, Unless they really think people will hold off on paying all their training costs, just so they can cheat Bioware out of in game money when the next forced respec comes around.
Oh well...
I paid for my abilities. Again. Respecced and really don't notice much of a difference except my Trooper (the only one I've played since the changes) feels a little squishier..and his cannon doesn't have the few extra little volleys that one of the skill trees added. Maybe that's on the mastered list..I hope so..I miss the sound of the little extra "ka-thooms!" it made. : (
Yeah...my trooper had 80,000 or so credits and still had to take out a loan from a...gulp..Bounty Hunter.
Thanks for the tip on the chests.
Maybe it's not an issue for you and maybe it's not on the forums. But it is still an issue. Plenty of people were discussing it..initially..in game chat when I was playing. It is an issue for me. Tho not game-breaking I still feel there is enough grind that we shouldn't have to possibly re-grind to pay for stuff we already paid for...and go so far as to say, regarding changed or newly introduced abilities, we shouldn't have to potentially have to grind to pay for stuff we..in all likelihood..would have already purchased having already met the level requirements.
But..it is what it is. So say we all. oops..wrong I.P.
Other people have mentioned that no other mmo does this when the respec is a forced one. I certainly have never encountered this in other mmos. I play Marvel Heroes as well and they are always changing shite around. They also are always giving out respec potions as rewards. I still have 39 respec potions from rewards. The exact amount I've been given. I've never had to use one for a forced respec in that game b/c they always gave them free of charge ...for no ingame money or cash shop potion charge...whenever they made ability changes.
You should also be ashamed for posting misleading, inaccurate, borderline lies. I am referring to your accusation that people who paid real money for an ability have to pay again with real money. This is a flat out lie.... and i think you know it is.
Also combining upgraded skills into your totals. Again this is misleading and should not be combined with old abilities. Since day one you had to pay for upgrades.
Ok I was commenting on how the guy in green, believes the OP that if you paid REAL MONEY for an ability its gone and you have to pay REAL MONEY again. That is the lie and thats what i was referring to. I was not referring to having to spend 150K ingame currency to relearn a few abilities.
More misleading information by the OP. Once you log in you pay maybe 150K on abilities you used to have, sure i can understand the questioning this. But to go on and claim the upgrades fall into this is factually inaccurate and misleading. Since day one you had to pay for upgraded abilities and this is no different.
Did you even read the post I replied to? He mentioned RL MONEY!!! I am not referring to paying for a few abilities with ingame currency. If you want reply to one of my post please try to keep it in the CONTEXT of the conversation, it really shouldnt have been that hard considering his was in BRIGHT GREEN.
training in swtor was fairly expensive especially on a first character, so having to pay again for a character that had already trained all the available abilities would be pretty annoying.
From the very beginning there has been issues like this with this game that just make me think, its not a huge deal by itself but why the hell would you have done it that way? I don't think a group of professional game developers could be that blind, and I don't think they go around thinking of dirty tricks to use on players to make them grind more.
The conclusion I think is most likely is they simply don't have a choice- Like many of this games issues it could go back to the way the game was designed in the first place. Skills where made to be paid for as you leveled up and the was never a easy way to get around that, so they simply don't have a fix for it that wouldn't be painfully time consuming, so they just say "working as intended" and wait for people to get over it.
I wouldn't go back to swtor personally since I've seen all the stories and the endgame has always seemed kinda 3rd rate to me, but if you do find the game fun I think you should just accept that some weird stuff is going to happen like this when they add or change this game even more than it does in other MMO's.
where was all the complaining during 12X XP when we leveled like crazy and trained skills for free!?!?!?
An people wonder why their threads get trolled.....
Yep. I did. Have you asked yourself what people buy - indirectly obviously - with RL money. Boosts to stats; escrow unlocks - whatever. The cash shop is awash with stuff that makes it "easier" for characters to "kill mobs", obtain more in-game currency and so forth. Personally I don't see the need but I think we have to assume that some people - clearly - buy the stuff.
Your bright green comment, btw, was "bought or paid for with RL money" - it wasn't just about RL money. My reply was about the general issue however people acquired the credits. And the fact that there is a large thread + other comments on the official forums - that shows that this is an issue for some. Not you, not me but for some it is. And if they come on here some of the answers will help them, if they need help, get the credits they need. Caskets are often near an elite mob for example.
Broken was the key word i was replying to. I agree its tough and a challenge but it aint broke....
Ok just wasnt sure why you replied to me, when my comment had nothing to do with that issue...