Maybe if you list all the games you've played before, we can just skip them in the list. Odd... that you can't find anything to play since you always say you have a plethora of games to play.
Or is this a MMO-Exposed sort of post, not looking for a game but rather merely a discussion on lobby games....
wait ... where did I say i have nothing to play?
Finding out MORE of what i like can be interesting ... no one says I am playing them right away. Plus, a longer list means more games to hop around.
It is not like i am going to ask for suggestion only when i finished all the games I have.
Originally posted by Bladestrom I would say most mmos are lobby based if they are not specialised to be mmorpg. Not sure what the point is in identifying the best lobby MMO - civ possibly then diable series then wow.
hmm ... the point is ... there are so many lobby MMOs, so having a short list is nice?
In addition, i want to identify gems like warframe .... the less heard of good games. Obviously i know of Diablo, WoW, marvel heroes, and all the "big" ones.
Originally posted by Adjuvant1 See, you called WoW a lobby game.
not me ... but wow is mostly a lobby game, because end-game (which takes most of the time) consist of H dungeons, raids, arena, and BGs, which are instanced.
Originally posted by Adjuvant1 See, you called WoW a lobby game.
not me ...
wut.
Originally posted by nariusseldon
Originally posted by Bladestrom I would say most mmos are lobby based if they are not specialised to be mmorpg. Not sure what the point is in identifying the best lobby MMO - civ possibly then diable series then wow.
hmm ... the point is ... there are so many lobby MMOs, so having a short list is nice?
In addition, i want to identify gems like warframe .... the less heard of good games. Obviously i know of Diablo, WoW, marvel heroes, and all the "big" ones.
But if you took the LFg window out , you'd still have persistent world wow with dungeons, raids, etc, you'd just have to spend time meeting people and developing trust and relationships. The LFG window makes wow a "lobby game" to you, but it isn't. It's a persistent world mmorpg with a short cut for impatient or anti-social people.
But if you took the LFg window out , you'd still have persistent world wow with dungeons, raids, etc, you'd just have to spend time meeting people and developing trust and relationships. The LFG window makes wow a "lobby game" to you, but it isn't. It's a persistent world mmorpg with a short cut for impatient or anti-social people.
Just a name ... if you don't want to call wow a lobby ... that is ok.
Let's go back to talk about lobby games then ... which is what this thread is about.
This is what you get. You spent many a posts in the past while arguing and diluting the definitions and now people are suggesting games that you may not like.
This is why we need genres with definitive, detailed descriptions so that when you come around and ask for a specific kind of game we can point you to a genre and you can skip along happily over to that site and enjoy all the games you like. Instead you get suggestions which only contain partial things of interest and continue to evoke a negative reaction.
I guess you reap what you sow.
No required quests! And if I decide I want to be an assassin-cartographer-dancer-pastry chef who lives only to stalk and kill interior decorators, then that's who I want to be, even if it takes me four years to max all the skills and everyone else thinks I'm freaking nuts. -Madimorga-
Originally posted by Bladestrom I would say most mmos are lobby based if they are not specialised to be mmorpg. Not sure what the point is in identifying the best lobby MMO - civ possibly then diable series then wow.
hmm ... the point is ... there are so many lobby MMOs, so having a short list is nice?
In addition, i want to identify gems like warframe .... the less heard of good games. Obviously i know of Diablo, WoW, marvel heroes, and all the "big" ones.
LOL.
This is spectacular coming from you! All those posts....
This is what everyone was trying to explain to you over and over again, this is why we have classification and genres; so you can sift through what you're looking for quickly and efficiently.
Fucking spectacular!
"Mr. Rothstein, your people never will understand... the way it works out here. You're all just our guests. But you act like you're at home. Let me tell you something, partner. You ain't home. But that's where we're gonna send you if it harelips the governor." - Pat Webb
I don't understand what is a lobby game, now, I guess. To my understanding, lobby games are basically online chat rooms without a persistent world, you log on, get connected somehow or queued, and play a scenario or battleground type instance. Here, though, people are referencing WoW and SWtoR, so it's not right.
You can play Swtor LIKE a lobby game if you want when you hit level 10. Imagine the fleet is the lobby and you just hit GF and wait. Whilst waiting chat to guildies/general chat. Or just send your companions of to craft/do missions.
It may not technically be a lobby based game but it can certainly play like one if you choose.
Originally posted by Bladestrom I would say most mmos are lobby based if they are not specialised to be mmorpg. Not sure what the point is in identifying the best lobby MMO - civ possibly then diable series then wow.
hmm ... the point is ... there are so many lobby MMOs, so having a short list is nice?
In addition, i want to identify gems like warframe .... the less heard of good games. Obviously i know of Diablo, WoW, marvel heroes, and all the "big" ones.
LOL.
This is spectacular coming from you! All those posts....
This is what everyone was trying to explain to you over and over again, this is why we have classification and genres; so you can sift through what you're looking for quickly and efficiently.
Fucking spectacular!
Got to be a eureka moment at some point
rpg/mmorg history: Dun Darach>Bloodwych>Bards Tale 1-3>Eye of the beholder > Might and Magic 2,3,5 > FFVII> Baldur's Gate 1, 2 > Planescape Torment >Morrowind > WOW > oblivion > LOTR > Guild Wars (1900hrs elementalist) Vanguard. > GW2(1000 elementalist), Wildstar
Originally posted by Bladestrom I would say most mmos are lobby based if they are not specialised to be mmorpg. Not sure what the point is in identifying the best lobby MMO - civ possibly then diable series then wow.
hmm ... the point is ... there are so many lobby MMOs, so having a short list is nice?
In addition, i want to identify gems like warframe .... the less heard of good games. Obviously i know of Diablo, WoW, marvel heroes, and all the "big" ones.
LOL.
This is spectacular coming from you! All those posts....
This is what everyone was trying to explain to you over and over again, this is why we have classification and genres; so you can sift through what you're looking for quickly and efficiently.
Fucking spectacular!
Got to be a eureka moment at some point
You'd think.
But, something tells me that that moment isn't even on the horizon
"Mr. Rothstein, your people never will understand... the way it works out here. You're all just our guests. But you act like you're at home. Let me tell you something, partner. You ain't home. But that's where we're gonna send you if it harelips the governor." - Pat Webb
Originally posted by Bladestrom I would say most mmos are lobby based if they are not specialised to be mmorpg. Not sure what the point is in identifying the best lobby MMO - civ possibly then diable series then wow.
hmm ... the point is ... there are so many lobby MMOs, so having a short list is nice?
In addition, i want to identify gems like warframe .... the less heard of good games. Obviously i know of Diablo, WoW, marvel heroes, and all the "big" ones.
LOL.
This is spectacular coming from you! All those posts....
This is what everyone was trying to explain to you over and over again, this is why we have classification and genres; so you can sift through what you're looking for quickly and efficiently.
Fucking spectacular!
Got to be a eureka moment at some point
You'd think.
But, something tells me that that moment isn't even on the horizon
yeh .. not even close .. he does not get the point.
If we classify genres narrowly, i will never be able to talk about warframe here .... the point is that the short list is not consisting of anything from a narrow slice of gaming (like virtual world classical mmos) but can be drawn from a broad list.
Look at what people have put up ... from TOR to warframe ... having a loose definition of the genre is exactly why talking about a short list is fun. Otherwise, why bother?
Originally posted by Bladestrom I would say most mmos are lobby based if they are not specialised to be mmorpg. Not sure what the point is in identifying the best lobby MMO - civ possibly then diable series then wow.
hmm ... the point is ... there are so many lobby MMOs, so having a short list is nice?
In addition, i want to identify gems like warframe .... the less heard of good games. Obviously i know of Diablo, WoW, marvel heroes, and all the "big" ones.
LOL.
This is spectacular coming from you! All those posts....
This is what everyone was trying to explain to you over and over again, this is why we have classification and genres; so you can sift through what you're looking for quickly and efficiently.
Fucking spectacular!
Got to be a eureka moment at some point
You'd think.
But, something tells me that that moment isn't even on the horizon
yeh .. not even close .. he does not get the point.
If we classify genres narrowly, i will never be able to talk about warframe here .... Sure you can. This website allows for the discussion of non-MMO games. You didn't know that? the point is that the short list is not consisting of anything from a narrow slice of gaming (like virtual world classical mmos) but can be drawn from a broad list.
Look at what people have put up ... from TOR to warframe ... having a loose definition of the genre is exactly why talking about a short list is fun. Otherwise, why bother? You're a hot mess, Mr. Seldon.
Not even close is an understatement.
"Mr. Rothstein, your people never will understand... the way it works out here. You're all just our guests. But you act like you're at home. Let me tell you something, partner. You ain't home. But that's where we're gonna send you if it harelips the governor." - Pat Webb
What you say makes sense, what he is getting at is that you are defining your own category to help direct conversation in a particular direction when on the other hand whenever anyone else tries to categories you shoot em down in flames. MMO/Lobby./Instanted gaming versus elsewhere MMO/RPG/Virtual World etc ring a bell.
rpg/mmorg history: Dun Darach>Bloodwych>Bards Tale 1-3>Eye of the beholder > Might and Magic 2,3,5 > FFVII> Baldur's Gate 1, 2 > Planescape Torment >Morrowind > WOW > oblivion > LOTR > Guild Wars (1900hrs elementalist) Vanguard. > GW2(1000 elementalist), Wildstar
Originally posted by strawhat0981 Check out warframe, it is so good.
I did .. i agree .. it is a great game.
In fact, I tried it out a year or so ago .. and i tried again today, and the game was night and day. Unfortunately, there is no way to reset my account because i want to start with another starting frame.
I just wrote them to delete my account, so i can restart everything new. I am still waiting.
I wish there are more MMOs like this one.
Cool. If you ever play on ps4, let me know so we can group up together. I have seen you on here and figured it was right up your alley.
Originally posted by laokoko "if you want to be a game designer, you should sell your house and fund your game. Since if you won't even fund your own game, no one will".
Why are you people fighting over the semantics of what an mmo is or is not, I mean come on. This petty fight has been going on here forever and is getting so old to hear. Lobby games, moba, and the other genres are here to stay so maybe you should all get with the times.
I consider Warframe and Star conflict to be mmos(and great ones at that), and so do so many other people. I also agree with WoW almost being a lobby game because most people just sit in org (or wherever the new hotspot is) and que up.....which is what a lobby game is.
Originally posted by laokoko "if you want to be a game designer, you should sell your house and fund your game. Since if you won't even fund your own game, no one will".
What you say makes sense, what he is getting at is that you are defining your own category to help direct conversation in a particular direction when on the other hand whenever anyone else tries to categories you shoot em down in flames. MMO/Lobby./Instanted gaming versus elsewhere MMO/RPG/Virtual World etc ring a bell.
if i am the only one categorizing these games as MMO, then i am guilty as charged for "defining my own category".
But since i am just following common usage from massively, mmorpg.com, mmofront.com, superdata.com, and so on ... I don't see that as true. You can say I am using definition used by all these sites without pondering or caring the literature meaning of the 3 words made up of the label "MMO", and that I would agree upon.
Why are you people fighting over the semantics of what an mmo is or is not, I mean come on. This petty fight has been going on here forever and is getting so old to hear. Lobby games, moba, and the other genres are here to stay so maybe you should all get with the times.
I consider Warframe and Star conflict to be mmos(and great ones at that), and so do so many other people. I also agree with WoW almost being a lobby game because most people just sit in org (or wherever the new hotspot is) and que up.....which is what a lobby game is.
yeah .. both games have grown and improve tremendously (similar to marvel heroes) in the past year or so. I did not go back to check them out until opening this thread.
Star conflict now has a pve mode, which is exactly what I was looking for in the first place (i was a bit turn off about the pvp only game mode when it is first came out).
Warframe now has a good tutorial, story, your own ship, and seems like a story to go with the missions. The action combat is fun, and the game looks good, and it supports the use of a controller on my PC
Originally posted by Bladestrom Bringing it back to op post, what about path of exile - slightly inferior to Diablo but worth a shot.
Did the game improve?
I tried it a while (year or so ago?) back and the combat/polish was lacking. However, both D3 has improved a lot since RoS, and marvel heroes since the 2015 version, so i wonder if PoE has improved too.
Originally posted by Bladestrom Not sure, people keep saying good things about it, I found the physics a bit floaty myself.
So i guess their core engine does not change ... i suppose i can still spare 20 min for a looky in the next few days.
Its problem is that it lacks the polish that some of these other games (marvel heroes, star conflict and warframe) have. We are not talking about Diablo Blizz level of polish .... but it is hard to get into a game without some level of polish, i guess i am spoiled.
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wait ... where did I say i have nothing to play?
Finding out MORE of what i like can be interesting ... no one says I am playing them right away. Plus, a longer list means more games to hop around.
It is not like i am going to ask for suggestion only when i finished all the games I have.
hmm ... the point is ... there are so many lobby MMOs, so having a short list is nice?
In addition, i want to identify gems like warframe .... the less heard of good games. Obviously i know of Diablo, WoW, marvel heroes, and all the "big" ones.
not me ... but wow is mostly a lobby game, because end-game (which takes most of the time) consist of H dungeons, raids, arena, and BGs, which are instanced.
wut.
Originally posted by nariusseldon
hmm ... the point is ... there are so many lobby MMOs, so having a short list is nice?
In addition, i want to identify gems like warframe .... the less heard of good games. Obviously i know of Diablo, WoW, marvel heroes, and all the "big" ones.
But if you took the LFg window out , you'd still have persistent world wow with dungeons, raids, etc, you'd just have to spend time meeting people and developing trust and relationships. The LFG window makes wow a "lobby game" to you, but it isn't. It's a persistent world mmorpg with a short cut for impatient or anti-social people.
Just a name ... if you don't want to call wow a lobby ... that is ok.
Let's go back to talk about lobby games then ... which is what this thread is about.
This is what you get. You spent many a posts in the past while arguing and diluting the definitions and now people are suggesting games that you may not like.
This is why we need genres with definitive, detailed descriptions so that when you come around and ask for a specific kind of game we can point you to a genre and you can skip along happily over to that site and enjoy all the games you like. Instead you get suggestions which only contain partial things of interest and continue to evoke a negative reaction.
I guess you reap what you sow.
No required quests! And if I decide I want to be an assassin-cartographer-dancer-pastry chef who lives only to stalk and kill interior decorators, then that's who I want to be, even if it takes me four years to max all the skills and everyone else thinks I'm freaking nuts. -Madimorga-
LOL.
This is spectacular coming from you! All those posts....
This is what everyone was trying to explain to you over and over again, this is why we have classification and genres; so you can sift through what you're looking for quickly and efficiently.
Fucking spectacular!
"Mr. Rothstein, your people never will understand... the way it works out here. You're all just our guests. But you act like you're at home. Let me tell you something, partner. You ain't home. But that's where we're gonna send you if it harelips the governor." - Pat Webb
In no particular order:
- Darkfall
- Dance Dance Revolution
- Duke Nukem
- Vanguard: Saga of Heroes
- Pitfall
- Digdug
- World of Warcraft
- League of Legends
- Yars Revenge
- Smite
- Hearthstone
- Fable: The Lost Chapters
- Bioshock
- Madden 2015
You can play Swtor LIKE a lobby game if you want when you hit level 10. Imagine the fleet is the lobby and you just hit GF and wait. Whilst waiting chat to guildies/general chat. Or just send your companions of to craft/do missions.
It may not technically be a lobby based game but it can certainly play like one if you choose.
Got to be a eureka moment at some point
rpg/mmorg history: Dun Darach>Bloodwych>Bards Tale 1-3>Eye of the beholder > Might and Magic 2,3,5 > FFVII> Baldur's Gate 1, 2 > Planescape Torment >Morrowind > WOW > oblivion > LOTR > Guild Wars (1900hrs elementalist) Vanguard. > GW2(1000 elementalist), Wildstar
Now playing GW2, AOW 3, ESO, LOTR, Elite D
You'd think.
But, something tells me that that moment isn't even on the horizon
"Mr. Rothstein, your people never will understand... the way it works out here. You're all just our guests. But you act like you're at home. Let me tell you something, partner. You ain't home. But that's where we're gonna send you if it harelips the governor." - Pat Webb
yeh .. not even close .. he does not get the point.
If we classify genres narrowly, i will never be able to talk about warframe here .... the point is that the short list is not consisting of anything from a narrow slice of gaming (like virtual world classical mmos) but can be drawn from a broad list.
Look at what people have put up ... from TOR to warframe ... having a loose definition of the genre is exactly why talking about a short list is fun. Otherwise, why bother?
Not even close is an understatement.
"Mr. Rothstein, your people never will understand... the way it works out here. You're all just our guests. But you act like you're at home. Let me tell you something, partner. You ain't home. But that's where we're gonna send you if it harelips the governor." - Pat Webb
What you say makes sense, what he is getting at is that you are defining your own category to help direct conversation in a particular direction when on the other hand whenever anyone else tries to categories you shoot em down in flames. MMO/Lobby./Instanted gaming versus elsewhere MMO/RPG/Virtual World etc ring a bell.
rpg/mmorg history: Dun Darach>Bloodwych>Bards Tale 1-3>Eye of the beholder > Might and Magic 2,3,5 > FFVII> Baldur's Gate 1, 2 > Planescape Torment >Morrowind > WOW > oblivion > LOTR > Guild Wars (1900hrs elementalist) Vanguard. > GW2(1000 elementalist), Wildstar
Now playing GW2, AOW 3, ESO, LOTR, Elite D
Cool
. If you ever play on ps4, let me know so we can group up together. I have seen you on here and figured it was right up your alley.
Originally posted by laokoko
"if you want to be a game designer, you should sell your house and fund your game. Since if you won't even fund your own game, no one will".
Why are you people fighting over the semantics of what an mmo is or is not, I mean come on. This petty fight has been going on here forever and is getting so old to hear. Lobby games, moba, and the other genres are here to stay so maybe you should all get with the times.
I consider Warframe and Star conflict to be mmos(and great ones at that), and so do so many other people. I also agree with WoW almost being a lobby game because most people just sit in org (or wherever the new hotspot is) and que up.....which is what a lobby game is.
Originally posted by laokoko
"if you want to be a game designer, you should sell your house and fund your game. Since if you won't even fund your own game, no one will".
rpg/mmorg history: Dun Darach>Bloodwych>Bards Tale 1-3>Eye of the beholder > Might and Magic 2,3,5 > FFVII> Baldur's Gate 1, 2 > Planescape Torment >Morrowind > WOW > oblivion > LOTR > Guild Wars (1900hrs elementalist) Vanguard. > GW2(1000 elementalist), Wildstar
Now playing GW2, AOW 3, ESO, LOTR, Elite D
if i am the only one categorizing these games as MMO, then i am guilty as charged for "defining my own category".
But since i am just following common usage from massively, mmorpg.com, mmofront.com, superdata.com, and so on ... I don't see that as true. You can say I am using definition used by all these sites without pondering or caring the literature meaning of the 3 words made up of the label "MMO", and that I would agree upon.
yeah .. both games have grown and improve tremendously (similar to marvel heroes) in the past year or so. I did not go back to check them out until opening this thread.
Star conflict now has a pve mode, which is exactly what I was looking for in the first place (i was a bit turn off about the pvp only game mode when it is first came out).
Warframe now has a good tutorial, story, your own ship, and seems like a story to go with the missions. The action combat is fun, and the game looks good, and it supports the use of a controller on my PC
Did the game improve?
I tried it a while (year or so ago?) back and the combat/polish was lacking. However, both D3 has improved a lot since RoS, and marvel heroes since the 2015 version, so i wonder if PoE has improved too.
If so, i should go back to give another spin.
rpg/mmorg history: Dun Darach>Bloodwych>Bards Tale 1-3>Eye of the beholder > Might and Magic 2,3,5 > FFVII> Baldur's Gate 1, 2 > Planescape Torment >Morrowind > WOW > oblivion > LOTR > Guild Wars (1900hrs elementalist) Vanguard. > GW2(1000 elementalist), Wildstar
Now playing GW2, AOW 3, ESO, LOTR, Elite D
So i guess their core engine does not change ... i suppose i can still spare 20 min for a looky in the next few days.
Its problem is that it lacks the polish that some of these other games (marvel heroes, star conflict and warframe) have. We are not talking about Diablo Blizz level of polish .... but it is hard to get into a game without some level of polish, i guess i am spoiled.
give me a game like diablo but with MMO viewpoint and mechanics and I will be addicted for a long time.
I was hoping Dragon Age multiplayer would be THAT game but sadly its not