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$1500,00 gaming rig build help
Hola all. Wife's old computer finally died, and need to get a new one for her.
No overclocking, need a new case and cd/dvd (combo is fine) burner/reader. And no other peripheral's such as monitor, keyboard, mouse, surge. A quiet system is needed, so a little extra on quiet fans/case is ok.
Have an old 1 terabyte HD that will go into system as her data HD so just need a 512 gig SSD.
Single GPU no crossfire/SLI.
Need a windows license as well, her old system is vista. Do not want to update that.
Intel system no AMD cpu.
Vast majority of her usage is on-line gaming no video work or stuff of that type.
Minimum of 8 gig ram, is there any reason to go to 12-16? I will (hopefully) keep this system for a minimum of 5 years as is, so if you think there may be a reason to go to the 12-16 gig ram i would prefer to do it now.
Ready to order now unless there is a reason to wait, for something close in the launch window.
Thanks in advance for the help.
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http://www.bestbuy.com/site/cyberpowerpc-gamer-xtreme-desktop-intel-core-i5-8gb-memory-1tb-hard-drive-black-red/6750069.p?id=1219238021667&skuId=6750069&ref=06&loc=01&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=6750069&extensionType=pla:g&s_kwcid=PTC!pla!!!80819144719!g!!52599681919&kpid=6750069&k_clickid=13e5e361-871a-4582-9ead-a00b953e8ab7&kpid=6750069&lsft=ref:212,loc:1&ksid=13e5e361-871a-4582-9ead-a00b953e8ab7&ksprof_id=8&ksaffcode=95&ksdevice=c
Here is one you can get for half the price.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117369
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132229
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226337
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139039
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151118
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148694 (two of them)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151266
http://www.amazon.com/Windows-8-1-System-Builder-64-Bit/dp/B00F3ZN2W0/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1420857416&sr=8-2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487079
That comes to $1601, which is over budget. But you've got a few choices to make.
One alternative is going with 8 GB of memory rather than 16 GB:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231546
Will you ever care about the difference between 8 GB and 16 GB? There's a good chance that you won't in the useful life of the machine. But on a $1500 budget, you've got room for 16 GB if you want it.
Another alternative is saving some money on the video card:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161457
That alone would bring you under budget, as you get about 80% of the performance for 60% of the price. The top end GPU often carries a price tag that is rather out of whack in performance per dollar as compared to the rest of the lineup, and Nvidia is definitely interested in charging a premium for it while they've got the best GPU.
No motherboards really jumped out as that's the nice deal today, so I just picked one. Also, you said you wanted a 512 GB SSD, but that 240 GB SSD is a great deal today, so you could just get two of them. No RAID; just two separate drives to add to the storage you want. And Windows 8.1 is $123 today on New Egg for some inexplicable reason, so I went looking elsewhere for a cheaper version. You could also justify spending a little more on a nicer case if so inclined.
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I do think that a Core i7-4790K is the CPU for you, even if you're not an overclocker. Especially if you're not an overclocker. Intel basically cherry-picked the best Haswell quad-core dies and gives it a base clock speed of 4 GHz and turbo up to 4.4 GHz, which would be respectable overclock on, say, a Core i5-4690K. And they can do it without outlandish voltage (they really had to cherry-pick good dies to do this), so they keep the chip inside an 88 W TDP. That means that you don't get all the stress on the chip of heavy overclocking like you would if you bought a Core i5-4770K and overclocked it yourself and then it was pulling 150 W at heavy loads.
Someone asks for a $1500 gaming rig and you recommend a GeForce GT 630, which is probably a rebranded version of Nvidia's bottom of the line Fermi card from 2010 (but not necessarily, as there are multiple totally different cards that Nvidia sells as a GeForce GT 630). Really? No SSD, either, and a high probability that the power supply is junk.
Well, at least you didn't give one of those random, "look what you can get on double the budget" replies.
I was trying to stir you up, I thought you would get a kick out of it and I knew it wouldn't be long and you were be here with a real build anyhow
best buy and cyberpower what a great team - lol
Well, at least you didn't give one of those random, "look what you can get on double the budget" replies.
I would have just summed it up with "Best Buy. Really."
Thank you Qizzical, as always you are very helpful here and make it easy to get a good system that will work together.
Much appreciated for all the time and effort you put into helping folks out here.
Now my only thing i have to do is actually let my wife have this new system while my old 5+ year one keeps chugging along:P
For what it's worth, the price on the SSD has changed since last night. They're a great deal at $86 each, but not so great at $122 each. If you haven't made the purchase yet, then try one of these instead:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148821
Ya, i got that one on order last night as matter of fact, rather than the 2 smaller better priced drives.
Wife has an issue remembering to put stuff on other drive sometimes and didn't want to have a drive get full.
It also matches ( not that that is important) the same drive i got for my old computer a few weeks back so if i ever get a new system may take that drive out of hers and put both in a new system for me and just get her a 1 terabyte. if they are more reasonable price wise, in a couple years.
But again thank you for the time and effort for all the help, system is on order and will have it up and running in a week or so First new system we have gotten in almost 6 years. Do not read up on it like i used to so you made it easy to get one.
EDIT: oh only other change i made was i got a win 7 license instead of 8.1. Just do not want the hassle of learning the system to explain to her, or even set it up like an old system like i read a lot of folks do. Might not be as bad as i have read...but we are both used to and like win 7 on my system. So no real reason to upgrade i think.
I was going to play with PCHound a bit - it makes throwing together a build pretty easy, but it's probably not the best for just window shopping.
http://www.ibuypower.com/Store/Intel-X99-Core-i7-Configurator/W/246115
$1,570
This would be good.
i7 5820k (The new 6 core i7)
Liquid cooling too keep this beast cool!
GTX 970 4gig card. (The new recently released Nvidia card. The 4 gigs is nice for newer games and future proofing.)
16 gigs of DDR 4 ram (You want 16 gigs, not all games need it now but this year and year from now you will see a boost from it.)
1 TB HD
240 GB SSD
It also comes with a few free items including the Razer 7.1 surround sound headset which are super nice!
They custom build so you can choose another case as well, which can even drop the price a little depending on choice.
Over all top of the line system for a really good price.
"I don't give a sh*t what other people say. I play what I like and I'll pay to do it too!" - SerialMMOist
well good luck trying to play games on them - you need more than ssds - a pc needs a processor, power supply, mb, ram, .... there is a lot more to a pc than just an ssd.
You probably should just go to best buy.
You've gone over the budget to get a rig with a piece of junk power supply and no operating system at all. You're also leaving half of the memory channels vacant, which isn't the worst thing in the world, but isn't what I'd recommend if you're getting 16 GB, anyway.
And he's a first time poster... I wonder what he does for a living and where he works?
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Ya, that looks like a good site. Just have to know a bit about what you want it looks like, and then figure out where you want to get the parts.
Had every item quiz had picked out for me there as well. Knowing where you can pick a number 40 on list (they have a number range of overall in each category as well) rather than the top 10 though would take someone that has a good knowledge and keeps up with everything.
But a good site to keep in mind for sure. Still prefer to get the picks from folks here, they usually come along with a reason why they picked the parts.
Can't beat the knowledge of people here like you and Quiz, that takes all the guess work out of it though. Anyhow, i have it all ordered and just waiting on it all to arrive and get it put together now.
He also registered in 2004. That doesn't look like a viral marketer to me, if that's what you're implying.
The 16 gig is fine, the extra slots just leave room to upgrade later.
A 600 watt isn't the most powerful PSU but it's more than enough to push that system unless you are going to do serious overclocking and/or SLI considering that system could technically run off a 500 watt.
And you are correct, there is no OS that was an oversight on my part, I apologize. You can actually choose a cheaper case to get it to 1,550. Still a bit over budget, and and you would still need a OS, which you can add on, but that is a damn good system. I know the budget, but sometimes people will go slightly over budget if the performance gain is worth it. Getting anything less than a 970 at this point is now not worth the money and with the 6 core I7s out, which have about a 20 - 25% performance gain over the previous I7 according to tomshardware.com and only being slightly more expensive by a matter of 50 bucks. Yes, going less on his budget would be a waste. Now, if that is too high for his budget and he can't over that, then that's fine, he can even tweak the specs on the page to possibly fit his budget better. Such as a smaller SSD or even dropping it and adding the OS and/or better PSU, if he felt he needed it, then adding the SSD later on. Just and example. Bottom line, good system and lots of high end items with the ability to tweak for price.
Now as far as me being a first time poster. Yeah, I don't post very often. I visit this site regularly, and read a lot of posts. But, no I don't normally post. I was only trying to help by finding a high end system for a good price.
You can probably get away with $1200 even with the peripherals. Some things to keep in mind are:
-You will never use over 8GB of RAM let alone your wife.
-You will also notice no difference between DDR3 1600 and DDR3 3000, the same is true with CAS latency 9 vs. 7.
-Additionally you will notice no difference between PCI 2.0 and PCI 3.0 so save a buck.
-SSD lifespan should be a huge concern, get the samsung EVO as it's one of the few proven to last longer. SSD's give zero warning when they die and die they will so you cannot go cheap here.
-Do your research on power supplies, 90% of them are pure garbage kicking out half the power advertised. Corsair 750W is a good place to start.
-Unless you plan on dropping 100 dollars on a mechanical keyboard just get a 10 dollar one with good reviews. I've found there is very little difference between a 10 dollar keyboard and 50 dollar one. Again buyer reviews are the key. Don't get a 10 dollar mouse though
-Make sure the case is not only tall but wide. If you can't tell, there's a reason. The company is trying to hide it. I once bought a case that was both tall and long but was so thin you couldn't even fit a CPU fan in it. Btw if anything says Rosewill don't buy it.
http://www.ibuypower.com/Store/Intel-B85-Configurator/W/246144
$1,439
CPU: i7 4790
Liquid cooling
Ram: 8 GB of DD3
Video Card: GTX 970 4 GB superclocked
OS: Win 8.1
HD 1: 1 TB HD
HD 2: 512 GB SSD
Optical Drive: 24x Dual Layer DVD±R/±RW
PSU: 750 watt Thermaltake PLUS Bronze power supply
Free: tt esport gaming mouse and keyboard and mouse pad (nothing special) but there if you need it.
Still high end, but maybe more what you are looking for, complete system with the SSD, OS, and solid PSU.
Sorry for making a second post, just thought I would update for something that may be closer to what you are looking for than my last.
Again, you can tweak the specs.
The nominal wattage is not the problem with a piece of junk power supply.
Are you serious?
OMG. I did not realize that the computer I already built would not work anymore.
So I guess just updating the HDD to SSD wont work.
OMG! What am I going to do???
/sarcasm
"I don't give a sh*t what other people say. I play what I like and I'll pay to do it too!" - SerialMMOist
I was curious - I saw i7 4790 CPU with a B85 motherboard. It will work, but ... I'll just leave that at that.
It's a valiant effort, and it hits the budget, but probably not the best bang for the buck here - even if you were to restrict yourself to just using iBuyPower.
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/chopdok/saved/bVfkcf
o/ . This should cover all your needs. If you don't need built-in GPU, because you already have GTX 970 in there, you can get Xeon 1231 CPU, which is i7 without HD 4600 and is marketed for server use (but will work just fine in any LGA1150 MB).
EDIT : As far as 8 or 16 GB RAM - since you can always buy 8 more GB of ram later, and because its easy upgrade, I wouldn't recommend going for 16 GB RAM now. But you can, if you want to.
Drop any questions you want here, or head over to https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/ .
4790+16g+970+1tb+256gb+500w proper is more like $1100 than what u listed, pre-assembled pcs will never be cheaper than their counterpart unless the company is selling at a loss, or break even prices.
edit: and i've just clicked manaek's link and noticed a $1114 build, the only difference is mine is ~$14 under and was a compiled approximation in my head
Please tell me you're not gonna do something ridiculous like RAID them together?
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