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Ive never called anyone an idiot.
As a matter of fact within this thread ive never even become hostile towards other players.
Please dont take MY word as"gospel" as YOU put it not me.
To make it clear YOU were the one who 1st got personal with your comments not me.
The only comments i made were about the game itself.I NEVER called anyone an idiot for playing WoW.Everyone has a personal preference in everyrhing they do.
My opinion is not gospel but apparently you are so blinded for your love of everything that is WoW that YOU cannot see past it.
So go have fun with your little game and quit worrying about my opinion and if it matters more than yours
Want to ENJOY an mmo?
Dont start a guild and dont be a leader or volunteer to be coleader or captain.
Just play the damn game:)
Yellow Highlight:
That is seriously one hell of a generalization, even for me and I'm the queen of generalizing. I mean, where the heck do you get off ?
Now you could say that WoW is bringing more and more people into the MMO world then ever done before but if you consider that a bad thing, you just have no clue. With every hit MMO comes new players, those players will one day want to expand their horizons and delve deeper into a fantastic game genre.
I'm sorry but you think this is a bad thing ?
Red highlight:
Again, this is just YOUR opinion. I personally hated AO but knew people who loved it, I know lots of people who think WoW is a horrible game, but I think it's a great game. So which is fact ? None of course. It's a matter of opinion, not fact.
Stop talking like everything you say is gospel and anyone who disagrees with you is an idiot.
Shae honey, i agree with alot of things you have to say but concerning the yellow text, i think he is right.
I mean think back to your first MMO, didnt it just seem like such a different experience compared to other games you had played? I know for me when i first played EQ i couldn't belive the depth and excitment of the game, then when i started playing other games i started to notice the little things that were flawed in eq that i had no knowledge of before. I just didn't have the experience of anything else like it so i just assumed that is what an MMO is supposed to be. And i think alot of the new generation looks at WoW the same way. Now that is not a bad thing becuase in time they too will go out and play other games and become part of the knowledgeble player base of these games.(like you said) Thats how i look at it.
The red text, sure it's his opinion, but i guess he can give it if he wants?...
~Dunadurium
"Silly rabbit, WoW's for kids"
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PotBS FTW!!!!!
Join the club. I went back two times. Yup, it took me that many times to learn. I kept wanting to like it. I really did. But I just wasn't having any fun after a while. I think it would have made a great Guild Wars type game, you know where you don't have to pay. Because once you hit 60 the games over anyways. That's not what's supposed to happen in an MMO. Look at DAoC. No end game there.
Join us in EQ2 - no log in lines - very few instanced areas - and awesome quests and graphix - plus pvp coming in less than 3 weeks. ;-)
Wow is a great game overall , But sadly not my cup of tea . I really liked the world its wide open which is great . Overall the content seems well done as well . PvP in it is a lttle stale though and thats my endgame . I like a game where skill is as important as equipment . And in wow it just dosen't seem so , another thing that really put a sour taste in my mouth were twinks . Leet kiddies with shiny weapons fighting new players is just weak . It always struck me they were players who couldn't hack it in LVL 60 high end pvp , trying to feel dominant over the NEWBS .
I only got to lvl 30 so far though, Iv'e only played a total of maybe 2 weeks . So I won't act as though i know alot about the game . Honestly i don't i just know its not something i really wanna play . Mainly because im not a big fan of teh fantasy genre . I find my interests lay more towards Sci-fi . So i am giving thought to returning to SWG . I tried EVE didn't appeal much , AO ( and people call SWG dead ) no offence to those who play .
So unless RF is any good , Ill be in SWG i guess until Huxley releases . Though i plan to try Age of Conan and Darkfall .
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Exactly.
The day I unsubscribed I had just finally got fed up with sitting on a bird, boatride, then bird again for a full 20 minutes just to get to the area I could level up in.
If WoW is the best in the MMO genre then I quit. Luckily, I know it's not; DAoC makes WoW look like a Fisher Price game by comparison. WoW is simply a big franchise made by a highly reputable company that can run on any system and is easy enough that anyone, even a 10 year old, can play it and achieve level 60. And it is very fun at first, I will always give it that. PVP is fun with no penalties and the quests are easy yet interesting.
It just gets so freakin' tiresome when you get to the high levels. I hate it now and would rather play Meridian 59 any day of the week instead of WoW.
Try EQ if you want to see what an endgame can be. WoW endgame is basically grind the same instance for items. EQ, while it did have amazing items, was more than that for endgame. Not that some of the WoW endgame instances aren't challenging, they just aren't as epic as EQ. Go through the game and get access to Plane of Time and then get back to me.
Lol, what freakin' route where you taking?
Ico
Oh, cruel fate, to be thusly boned. Ask not for whom the bone bones. It bones for thee.
lol
The largest market share in the short history of MMOs and you call it a failure.....
If everyone thinks the game sucks why are subs still going up ? if they tried it and quit you'd think the number would stay the same or go down......weird.
WoW's success is the worst thing that has happened to the industry in a looooong time. Other Devs are looking at WoW and thinking "damn it we have wasted our time creating all this crap like huge open environments and complex crafting systems, when we could have just made an instanced grindfest."
SOE/LA liked the idea so much they decided to change SWG to match the formulea.
It very likely spells the death of complex MMO gaming..... thanks Blizzard
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"Far away across the field, the tolling of the iron bell, calls the faithful to their knees. To hear the softly spoken magic spell" Pink Floyd-Dark Side of the Moon
Agreed Razorback, SOE seems determined to revamp their product into more WoW-like. Otherwise, I really don't forsee other companies following suit. Blizzard just displayed that there's a market out there for mmos.
Ico
Oh, cruel fate, to be thusly boned. Ask not for whom the bone bones. It bones for thee.
Back peddle much ?
Puoltry, I certainly don't want you to think I'm attacking you here, that's the last thing I would want. I always want to keep an open mind about what everyone says in the community, I come here to learn from people like you, to read and see your viewpoints, point blank.
If you want to attack me or inspire petty bickery by saying things like "you are so blinded for your love of everything that is WoW that YOU cannot see past it" well then so be it, I've obviously mistaken you for someone who's willing to see all sides of the situation. My bad, I learn, I move on.
But let's be clear here, I've no love lost on WoW, I've said many times before that I've played WoW, enjoyed WoW but found it boring in the end. If your going to make assumptions about me, least you should be is slightly educated on the matter.
Moving on though, I certainly appologize if you thought I made it "personal" as you put it, that's never my intention in any post I make. I think I'll end this one by just agreeing to dissagree with you.
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Oh I completely agree with the theory, of course your first MMO is awesome. My first game was Lineage 1 for the love of god !!! Not exactly the epitome of fun
. But me ? I thought it was the best thing since sliced bread, I moved on to SWG and wouldn't you know it , I had a blast. I certainly wasn't questioning that fact, just the huge generalization that most WoW players are new to the genre and that if they are, it's all bad.
Because I just don't agree with that. Sure their will be company's that will see WoW success and say "Hey, we want that, let's do that !" *cough* SOE *cough* but whatever, to hell with them, for every game they mess up there's a better one in the wings. And who knows, lots of good might come out of it.
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You seem to be making the same fatal mistake all the complaiers here do. Not everyone wants to play the same style of game you do. It doesn't mean they're wrong, ignorant or just haven't played enough MMOs to know better.
There's a group of people in my guild who hate player crafting, harvesting or anything that doesn't involve combat/questing. To me that's crazy, to take all that out of a MMO would make it completly boring....but that's just my opinion. If a game did that I wouldn't play it. I would make long stupid posts about how the game's a failure because it didn't have any of the thing I require to make it a good game either.... I just wouldn't play it.
That's what's wrong with all the wow haters. It isn't that the game sucks, the game isn't for them so just move on. Sure put your opinion in when people ask, but don't start some rant post about how much it sucks.
I wasnt aware i was ranting.......
It just seems like when someone has an opinion on these boards that differs from someone else's that it is looked upon as being a "rant".
Well someone else said this would happen and it did.
So i didnt like WoW and my opinion is looked upon as a rant.
So now people who come to these boards cant even say WHY they dont like it without being told "So what move on we dont want to hear it..."?
Ya know what ...its just a game maybe YOU should move on as well.
Want to ENJOY an mmo?
Dont start a guild and dont be a leader or volunteer to be coleader or captain.
Just play the damn game:)
I think ultamitly what I think about wow can be summerized in my post on this forum.
http://mmorpg.com/discussion.cfm/load/forums/loadforum/432/loadthread/66518/setstart/1/loadclass/102
WoW is a good starter game. Thats about it. Anyone who still plays WoW after 1yr+ normally thinks its cause they have nothing better to play. In some ways this is very true. I quit WoW and I can't seem to find a game to stick to. Anyone who still thinks the game is as great as they first played it seems to be delusional. Everyone I know and talk to who has played WoW say they play just in hopes for more content.
Siehst du mich
Erkennst du mich
Ganz tief in meinem Herz
ist noch ein Platz f?r dich
Ich suche dich
Ich sehne mich
nach dem was ich geliebt hab
doch ich find es nicht
Oh I completely agree with the theory, of course your first MMO is awesome. My first game was Lineage 1 for the love of god !!! Not exactly the epitome of fun
. But me ? I thought it was the best thing since sliced bread, I moved on to SWG and wouldn't you know it , I had a blast. I certainly wasn't questioning that fact, just the huge generalization that most WoW players are new to the genre and that if they are, it's all bad.
Because I just don't agree with that. Sure their will be company's that will see WoW success and say "Hey, we want that, let's do that !" *cough* SOE *cough* but whatever, to hell with them, for every game they mess up there's a better one in the wings. And who knows, lots of good might come out of it.
Fair enough but lets just rehash what he actually said:
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To put this in perspective though WoW was my 7th or 8th mmo.
When you have nothing to compare it to a player really has no idea just how lacking in most everything it is."
"Silly rabbit, WoW's for kids"
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I’m not wow’ed by wow any more either but I still love the game as if it were my long lost friend from a long lost galaxy far, far away from here in a place in space and time where animals can talk and roads are as sweet as gold. I was banned from the game I loved a long time ago, not because I was a bad boy but a good boy trying not to be bad to those who didn’t understand the purpose of the quest they were embarking and the world of which they lived and played for hours at a time.
You see Poultry, the game taught me to love others as if they were my sacred friend. It taught me to love those who didn’t know me and even those who hated me for being a hippie or a Jesus freak. The game told me to love them because it was the right thing to do because they needed the love and the kindness in their hearts because it was missing and it was killing them slowly. It was killing them softly and hard.
It was like they were missing a piece of a puzzle somewhere in the World of Azeroth. They didn't know it was missing but they had a feeling something wasn't there and deep down they knew they had to find it or else they will die a death not of the body but a death of the soul. And to make matters worse they didn’t even know what to look for and this frustration, this rage made them angry. It made them want to lash out at the world around them, making them want to hurt those who only wanted to help them with their struggle and their pain. They wanted to hurt me and they called me dirty names but I didn’t let that bother me. As a matter of fact, I embraced their anger, took their pain into the belly of my heart hoping upon hope my sacrifice will help they anger dissipate, never haunting their nightmares and their dreams ever again.
My friends as I’ve told you before and I will tell you again I am not WoW’ed by WoW anymore. My days and nights in the world of Azeroth are long gone. But this does not mean I still don’t think about the crying children of Azeroth who need me to care for them, to hold them, and to love them as if they were a cherished lullabye in a sweet tender song.
I hear their cries all the time when I am asleep at night. I hear them and I want to help them but I can’t help them because I’m always so far away from their agony. I’m so distant from their pain and this makes me mad because I know I can do a better job at making their world a better place for all involved in this War of Warhearts.
Sadly when I awake from these dreams I am reminded that the Lich King is still supreme in the hearts and minds of the children looking for gold and looking for quest. The mad man encourages such behavior and I think this type of attitude is downright wrong. But how can one reason with a madman full of liches and worms? How can one reason with a King who has lost his way in the hallowed nights of the world that has long since moved on? I suppose only time will tell I guess. Time and love and happiness. Time and a little bit of loving full of sweet dreams and candy canes all throughout the land.
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Sigh if you had just been patient enough to wait one more year, this could have been an amazing 10 year necro.
Instead you gave in, and now we all look at you with disappointment and shame. Only a 9 year necro? We thought you were better than that.
I know someone who loves it still but it doesn't take away from my personal distaste for it nor invalidate any reasons I don't enjoy it personally. An example of this and without opening this up unnecessarily just because people are still playing it(albeit a lot less) doesn't mean the graphics aren't subpar by todays standards.
I agree with you that graphics aren't of the upmost importance I was just using it as an obvious example of where WoW has been outshined. I don't want to get into whether WoW is good or bad on lesser examples but the point is just because it's popular does not make peoples complaints about it invalid.
fair enough yu dun like wow anymore np w tht just go play somefing else problem solved
I forgot to mention that I too am blown away that it lasted so long and is still going strong. When I first came to this site I would have never believed it, infact I'm pretty sure I was a doomsayer. I still have my reasons for disliking it personally but you live and learn I suppose.
All the rating sites rate games within the first... I'd say 1-5 days (a work week). So as long as you have a great work week of gaming, you make a review and explain why it's good.
Video Games on console are beaten in 1-5 days. This time frame is perfect for them.
MMOGs that are lobby based also don't require much time to see everything there is to see... competition is the important part.
MMORPGs in particular should be more than just the first 5 days of shininess. They should aim to have something deeper in them. You don't see the deeper parts of a game in 5 days unless that's all the game was meant to provide you with.
What does this mean for WoW and where does it fit in? I couldn't tell you because I played up until 40 before burning crusade and realized I hated forced questing, eSports PvP, and the art style. At the time it was a new toy though, so I just gave in. I did watch my brother playing it for several hours over christmas though. Wanted to know how the garrison's were. I saw them... nice try at sandbox content. Blizzard knows where MMOs are going next.