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[Column] Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited - The Surprises & Questions of B2P
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So here we are, as reported earlier, The Elder Scrolls Online will be rebranded as he Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited as of March 17th on PC, with the console versions released in June under the same format. Buying the game will allow access to the full content released before the rebranding, and “downloadable content” will be included with the now optional subscription. There will also be a cash shop with customization and convenience items (I’m sure the arguments over what these will possibly be have already commenced somewhere). Yet the news both comes as both a mild surprise and not a surprise at all.
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I'm actually ok with B2P + paying for downloadable content. That is still enough of a $$ barrier to keep out the worst of the F2P crowd.
I'm somewhat disappointed they went this route, but it's a lesser of the evils. It's similar to EQ2's model, and that seemed to work just fine for me.
I'll keep paying a sub for ESO. Of all the game selections currently out there, this one is good enough to stick with. Great dev team, massive updates, and just a lot of quality and detail.
I will be keeping an eye out on what they do with their Cash Shop, though.
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Monster Hunter since '04!
Currently playing: MHW & MHGU
Monster Hunter since '04!
Currently playing: MHW & MHGU
So update 6 is out soon.
And then b2p model kicks in.. Lets see how long it takes them to release a new update after that.
All of you freeloaders do not understand dedication in a game.
You play for a month and move on.
This is the fate of ESO. Sad really.
B2P is not targeted at F2P players, it is targeted as a way to retain/bring back P2P players that you already have. This is not going to being in NEW players, but rather it will help them keep the players that they already have sticking around longer.
B2P makes a LOT more sense than the required sub did. It is also a good way to sell on console. There is a reason that Destiny is a B2P title with regular DLC, rather than a P2P title with mandatory sub. Consoles sell boxes (B2P) and a required sub is a deterrent for returning players. This allows for a better match of the game with the market.
Well I thought this wasn't possible infact the developers during development when releasing information about the payment model stated that there is no way ESO could ever operate as anything other than a box purchase and subscription one of them even went as far to say that if subscription failed then the game would fail because without it they could no longer support the game.
So once again ESO online developers proving since development that all they do is talk crap in fact they can talk a good ES game shame they couldn't seem to make it amatuers
I prefer the traditional P2P model. Having said that, I don't know where the problem is. I mean, you get all the DLCs with ESO Plus and, as far as I know, all you can buy in the shop is cosmetic items.
Honestly, I don't consider that lying at all. That may be the direction of the game and some higher-ups may be well aware of it, but all the details may not be written in stone, so you simply don't give any information at all. It's entirely possible that the majority of people working there, like support, etc. had any idea about it.
Honestly, if the gaming community was full of reasonable people then I wouldn't see it as much of an issue and you can probably be pretty honest with them. However, take a look at discussion surrounding things like F2P games, Founder program, Early Access games, business models, P2W, and you'll see how crazy gaming communities are. If you don't see it, then, well.......
Anyway, the point is that this is probably no worse than lying to your kids about Santa, is it? Did you get angry at your parents when you learned Santa doesn't exist? Were you like "Those $#@^%$!#@%!!!! I hope they die in their sleep!" Probably not. Although, if that was your response then, maybe, you might be part of the crowd that finds this especially offensive.
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To everyone that yelled ESO is going B2P and I did not belive. Sometimes even using offensive language.
I am sorry.
I apologise for my miss guided view.
Love for this game made me blind to obvious cliff ESO was heading to.
I cover my head with ash.
This, sadly, I agree with.
That's the Guild Wars system. They had a shop and they had, since they were "b2p" players buy expansions.
Though, having said that, EQ2 has their version of sub and also a shop and also charge for expansions (unless this is changed?).
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GW2 might be releasing an expansion soon (still waiting for official confirmation).
If it happens, I don't see why ESO wouldn't follow in the foosteps of GW2 and release an Xpack as well - if the game is successful enough.
Sadly, the game was horrible on release. I wasn't dedicated to it primarily because there was rampant grinding for max gear and no one doing anything really interesting. The subscription model made it hard to justify coming back just to try it out for another month, since I'm also poor.
Now that it's coming to F2P, I'll download it and try it out again. If it's good, I might stick around - I've stuck with LOTRO for years since its F2P conversion, and I know many who do as well.
Those who just drive by, like you're speaking of, do that regardless of whether it's a pay game or a free game. They're just looking for something good. It's sad that "good" is hard to find.
Steam still charges the full retail price while most boxed retailers charge around €20 for it...
Here to say it's a good move and PHUCK P2P period.
Paying monthly for [ONE] video game as [gamer]? HA HA HELL NAW
I might not play the game once it becomes b2p but p2p is not [needed] these days.
Take care people.
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P2P LOGIC = If it's P2P it means longevity, overall better game, and THE BEST SUPPORT EVER!!!!!(Which has been rinsed and repeated about a thousand times)
Common Sense Logic = P2P logic is no better than F2P Logic.
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