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Do you think TOR will get any bigger this year due to Star Wars making a comeback?
shenfrey
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What do you think? I hear Bioware are going to be making some big changes this year as a result, lets hope they are not quite on the level of NGE!
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I don't think TOR will get any bigger in population because of the upcoming movies. The recent J.J. Abrams Star Trek movies did nothing for the Star Trek Online MMO, and the Hobbit trilogy movies did nothing for Lord of the Rings Online's playerbase either. TOR will be 4 years old when Episode 7 comes out, and the other two franchises didn't even air commercials or advertise their respective MMOs before the trailers preceding the movies.
If anything, the only game commercials you can expect to see tied to the new Star Wars movie will be Battlefront 3.
If you're just talking about the producer's letter/roadmap/cancellation of Shadow Realms, it's all empty smoke and baseless hype at the moment. Blizzard has way more staff & when they cancelled Project Titan in May 2013, it still took ages to reassign staff and launch their WoW expac Warlords of Draenor behind schedule. I don't expect any "big things" from SWTOR in 2015 when the current plans are so empty. They still don't even have a date for Togruta heads released for players, which have been companions and NPCs since launch.
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I'm not expecting any spectacular changes. Then again, Bioware seems to be aiming for some well timed expansions by the time of the movies. And EA definitely has the resources to spread the word when the time comes, whereas Lotro and STO had far small budgets to work with due to Cryptic and Turbine being nowhere near as rich as EA or Bioware.
It'll be interesting to see what they do with it!
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It certainly hinges on the actual release date for Battlefront 3, but I think EA is going to back DICE's game harder, based on stories like these. There's the quote at the bottom "aggressive DLC plan is also in place, with five content packs, each containing at least three maps as well as characters from The Force Awakens."
Day 1 DLC, with 4 more packs to be released shortly after. Disgusting, but probably going to be a huge moneymaker for EA and the game they're more likely to back being new.
Sure, it'll likely be the one that'll get a trailer that plays in theaters. But EA owns both, it would cost them nothing to slip a paper flyer into the Battlefront box to advertise SWTOR, or even do a cross game promo like Mass Effect, Dragon Age and Dead Space did (along with many other titles I'm not aware of no doubt).
If they're serious about the whole "Big Year" thing at least. For all we know it could be just talk.
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Agree about Cryptic; not so Turbine - WarnerBros are actually bigger than EA. Whether EA or WarnerBros want to "spend heavily" spreading the word well ....
A lot may depend on Battlefront.
If even a fraction of the rumours on https://makingstarwars.net are accurate well - just listing what is rumoured will make you seem like a hyped fanbois. Check the article on the site if interested. Huge list of mouth-watering features rumoured. And DICE spent time in Pinewood Studios!
And I think this is what EA is going to spend its money on. A B2P title with lots of DLC planned for this year and next, that uses its own internal game engine and could appeal both to fans of SW, fans of BF and more.
Fairly certain that TOR will get bigger due to the Star Wars movies than it would have been without the movies. Having said that I doubt TOR will grow unless the development team starts spitting out content fast and the community team actually starts communicating with the community.
I was never a big fan of Makeb, I didn't like the planet all torn up in islands, socalled mesa's. Having said that, I never felt like quitting TOR over RotHc. Revan imo was a failure of an expansion. Not that Rishi and Yavin was bad, but I lost the will to log in and play. Maybe it's the co-op thing with the other faction, maybe it's just old fashion burnout, but personly I play way less now than I did before 3.0.
People cry for more story all the time, but imo what is killing TOR is the feeling that EA or Bioware or whoever deliver the content don't realy care. They take the easy route allways. I cant speak much about GSF since I only tried the "tutorial" and that was probably the worst tutorial I've ever seen in any game. I never realy expected to start playing GSF, but that "tutorial" absolutely did nothing to make me want to try it out. GSH also feels shallow. Nice QoL features but that's about it. All players gets the exact same housing and all we get are the ability to fill out the space. Well, fill out until the hooks have been used up.
Then came 3.0. Same thing. It feels shallow. It feels like the absolute minimum of content possible while still being able to call it an expansion. On top of that it's rather bugged, class balance is worse than ever and the community team isn't communicating in a meaningfull way.
Last few weeks the community team seems to have improved slightly, but I fear it's too little too late. The new content is still not of the quantity, and especially of the quality expected. No amount of communicating will fix that.
I'm sure they will push some gimmick items through cash shop. None of which I see that would be related to the lore of that time period.
As far as content goes, nothing will change. Maybe a new zone that takes an hour to finish.
I also firmly and personally believe that due to SWTOR's huge mismanagement when it launched, that lasted until a few months after F2P mind you, it won't ever be able to fully recover from all that scrunity it faced for being the worst launch of an MMO in the history of MMO gaming. SWTOR was riddled with bugs (and so much more than your average amount), low capacity server launches (hence the long queues), too many servers launched to allievate the low capacity servers, p**-poor PvP support, little-to-no PvE endgame with an incomplete Operation (one of the only 2 available); the list goes on.
To this day, most of these issues still exist due to the fact that EAware still believes that a "story-driven" MMO is sustainable. Protip: it's not. The only thing that saved SWTOR from certain doom in 2012 was the cash shop and since most casuals (the vast majority of the game's player base) love instant gratification via spending IRL cash so instead of pay-to-play they can pay-to-customize (something EA is taking advantage of), the profitability of F2P is why SWTOR is still backed by a skeleton dev team. It's sad to say it but it's true.
So to answer your question OP, no, not at all. I believe SWTOR will continue to float by by its average-sized playerbase that'll continue to pour hundreds of thousands of $ for content that should be earned through gameplay rather than through cash that could be put towards at the most expansion packs and DLC and the like.
I would support a NGE big time,i have the same feeling i had about WOW,not one single aspect of the design is worth keeping,every single area could easily be improved.I am not a fan of Bioware's work and i have bought a lot of their games,including all the SW's games.
This game 100% had the feel of the KOTOR team making it.A single player game with lobby MMO not a very good effort but then again that is what Wow is as well,hence why i said a sad effort and easily improved upon.
I highly doubt any major change so if they remain steadfast on this weak design at least ADD something EPIC like large Invasions or Battlefronts with lots of NPC action to make it lively and exciting.That imo SHOULD have already been in the game from day 1 .
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Worst launch in the history of MMOs? ROFLMAO! Obv you weren't actually there and are simply spewing out all the accumulated garbage you'd heard as if it was the truth. There simply is too much fail in your post to actually counter it all, so I'm not even going to try.
After 3 years the misinformed haters still gotta hate lol.
EDIT: 5 posts in like a year and all of them spewing this same nonsense about SWTOR.
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Violets are blue
The reviewer has a mishapen head
Which means his opinion is skewed
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Servers got consolidated twice; Started on Black Citadel, spent some time on Fat Man, both are gone now. Being sent to POT5 was bad karma I guess, rofl.
I don't really believe that's remotely true.
I seem to remember waiting in line, then playing and not really having any issues.
I'd be curious to see what your stance is on World of Warcraft's horrible launch, or Vanguard's or Dark and Light or even the recent Archeage where people have had issues (I had no real issues playing other than long cues).
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So is that your fake account or did you just not actually read what he wrote?
The post I responded to was talking about bugs and other BS that simply was not the case at launch. The only real bugs at the beginning consisted of end game raid bugs in EV. Trying to blame the games loss of players by spouting nonsense that never happened is not the same as the game simply not living up to expectations. Not only had EA/BW billed it as the second coming, but they launched the game early so EA could pad its Q4 numbers. If patch 1.2 was launch he might have had a point, and the game might have done better as it contained the features that should have gone out at launch (like 6 months or a year later after the bugs had been worked out), but it wasn't debugged heavily enough and in fact was a LOT buggier then the actual launch was. But 1.2 wasn't out till months later and the launch was one of the least buggiest launches I have ever seen. Which makes his rant filled post nonsense, especially when he tries to say that most of the problems (that didn't exist at launch) are still there.
The only real problem (other than the lack of features that are in game now but should have been in since day one) was the long wait times to actually get in and start playing the game. Saying anything else simply proves whoever is saying it wasn't there and they are just spewing out the same tired old garbage that all the haters do.
You won't get a response, he has 5 posts over the past year all of them are basically the same baseless attacks on SWTOR.
I personally enjoyed WoW's launch, I double checked the exact outages because of the statue they sent 10 year vets recently and I had a week of comped time from the first few months, and had a total of 30ish free days over the past 10 years for server issues.
Vanguard was truly a hardware issue, specs were too high for the hardware of the time.
Never heard of Dark & LIght
My opinion of the Star Wars launch as a player was fine, other than the same lag I experienced in WoW and launching without some basic features that were standard in other MMOs. The servers consolidation and forced name changes twice were pretty awful but that was beyond launch.
I hope so, the game is now at a good point where it would make sense to really put serious money in to grow the player base.
- Crank up the engine performance
- polish and extend each of the old planets, add high level zones to each one
- add a new landing cutscene for all of them
- add flying mounts , X Wings, A-Wings and the like
- add REAL PvE space outside of Galactic Starfighter
- revamp mounts, add phsyics and open world racing tracks
- add class story continuation up to lvl 75
- add day night cycles to planets
I'd pay 60$ for this expansion instantly.
Many Star Wars fans will leave for Battlefront 3 if it's good.
I believe the X-Wing was a new design in the original trilogy thus would not exist back here.
This is really a job for the marketing department I think. One of the areas where they should actually make an impact imo.
Yes, the new Star Trek films didn't impact STO. But honestly, almost no one knew or talked about STO after those films got released. Obviously they'd need to do that in a different manner with TOR.
Knowing how much bigger a franchise Star Wars and SW:TOR are though, I don't think they'll let that chance slide as easily.
You either did not play SWTOR's launch or did not play many other MMO launches if you think TOR's launch was bad.
It was the post-launch period a couple of months in that was bad. The launch was perfectly fine however.
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well it was pretty clear from the beginning the core is space-WoW plus story.
I'd bet some suit proposed exactly that and everyone clapped.
It's a good game, just went a bit too much into WoW-type cloning.
BUT they also innovated, legacy system, strongholds, galactic starfighter, light dark side system, etc.
Really some great stuff there.