Sorry but he's correct and you are mking up stuff based on a small sample of your personal experiences to a point where your conclusion is meaningless. SE did anounce recently that they have "almost" 1 million subscribers among 3 of their games - FFXIV, FFXI and one more which I can't remember the name of.
Try again next time with real facts without getting all worked up when you get called on your faerie tales.
Sorry but he's correct and you are mking up stuff based on a small sample of your personal experiences to a point where your conclusion is meaningless. SE did anounce recently that they have "almost" 1 million subscribers among 3 of their games - FFXIV, FFXI and one more which I can't remember the name of.
Try again next time with real facts without getting all worked up when you get called on your faerie tales.
"Correction: Square Enix's annual report was released on March 31, 2014, when the company's fiscal year ended. We apologize for the error."
"Recently" as in almost a year ago?
Now you are blaming him for SE not releasing new numbers?
Those are the most recent official numbers we have.
To me recently does not imply a year ago. The number may not have budged but I'm just saying there's 11 months in between that data and today. Hardly a reliable indicator of anything. Hell, that was pre-chinese and korean release too.
I'm fine with 600k or whatever but the numbers are still none the less hopelessly outdated.
Using LOL is like saying "my argument sucks but I still want to disagree".
Originally posted by Rusque FFARR, 11 million subs by next month confirmed by OP. How is the thread title not troll baiting?
Because it has to be somewhat believable?
I dunno, remember when that one guy posted that ESO would be at 10 million active subs by the end of 2014? I think that thread got up to around 100 pages.
Originally posted by reeereee Originally posted by FoomerangOriginally posted by RusqueFFARR, 11 million subs by next month confirmed by OP. How is the thread title not troll baiting?
Because it has to be somewhat believable?I dunno, remember when that one guy posted that ESO would be at 10 million active subs by the end of 2014? I think that thread got up to around 100 pages. Hehe yeah but these wild predictions are fun! Ive made a few myself.
Sub numbers dont matter, square dont care about profits! But those numbers are old, game has more than 500k now, my server is full, wow beater, 3 million!
Ffxiv players come across like a guy in big car, size doesnt matter but look at my massive car!
Ffxiv is doing no better than any other normal mmo, if they accepted that people would argue less. Still amazes me op posred this thread in general. Mmo titles are all about finding niches, ffxiv is not the 2nd or 3rd biggest its just another niche title.
Enjoy your game and stop trying to win, you dont see people hating on games unless their players bring it out in others.
I hate comments about how WoW will never be topped or crushed because they said the SAME thing about Everquest. It WILL happen...eventually. It always does... there will be something bigger and better, that's life, always happens. I still play WoW too but I am not a fanboy. I simply play it because it is polished and it's easy to get in and get something done if i really want to. At the same time... it's boring. Plain and simple. Nothing new to see here...move along type stuff.
I liked FFXIV:ARR and still have an account though not active. I'm waiting for the expansion to come out. I don't like "grindy" games unless it's grindy like EQ in a social group setting and not solo setting. People leave alot of games these days because they aren't "social group" type games. They are just fast paced smash this and move on type games. The cooldown in FFXIV: ARR actually quicken the higher level you gear and the better gear through haste type stats. Doesn't bother me though.
Originally posted by zaberfangx FF14 have long way to catch up to wow, is maybe 2nd or 3nd top sub mmo eve may have more. there both not going hit 1 mil. if didn't hit it be for there not going hit it now. Not saying is fail mmo, just never be as big as a monster like wow.
Originally posted by Kiyoris I don't get it, I thought gaming sites said P2P was dead....yet FFXIV is doing fine and people are jumping F2P like Arecheage faster than rats from a sinking ship.
Which is further proof that it's the game that matters, not the monetizing of it (unless the monetizing actually hurts the game).
FFXIV is doing good, Wildstar is not (at least as of last time I heard about it), both are P2P, GW2 is doing good so far with no sub, archeage seems to not be going as good (again, from what I heard).
I won't deny that the monetization has a big influence that could help or hinder a game, but in the end, if the game is good, people will come, whether it's F2P, freemiun, B2P, P2P or anything in between.
Arche age doing fine, the problem they open to many server when people complain to open more when the rats leave a mmo after something they don't like in the game, is was not for everyone, Arche Age was that type of game never hold out ever was P2P people mass leave after a game comes out, why I knew this be for it came out just how the game was build was not ment to hand over people make it easy for them, was all about power, if people can't get there, they leave where they have more power.
ArcheAge at launch and then shortly after had like max 8-10 servers US side..... that's too many?
Originally posted by zaberfangx FF14 have long way to catch up to wow, is maybe 2nd or 3nd top sub mmo eve may have more. there both not going hit 1 mil. if didn't hit it be for there not going hit it now. Not saying is fail mmo, just never be as big as a monster like wow.
Sub numbers dont matter, square dont care about profits! But those numbers are old, game has more than 500k now, my server is full, wow beater, 3 million!
Ffxiv players come across like a guy in big car, size doesnt matter but look at my massive car!
Ffxiv is doing no better than any other normal mmo, if they accepted that people would argue less. Still amazes me op posred this thread in general. Mmo titles are all about finding niches, ffxiv is not the 2nd or 3rd biggest its just another niche title.
Enjoy your game and stop trying to win, you dont see people hating on games unless their players bring it out in others.
It does matter though. It is probably in the same ballpark as GW2 and SWTOR like you say. The only difference is that it charges a sub. Would those games have that many people with a sub?
James T. Kirk: All she's got isn't good enough! What else ya got?
Originally posted by Bladestrom What exactly does wow do better than ffx1v?
PVP. - FF MMOs have never focused on PvP. Most do not play the game for that purpose.
Combat. - Combat is what you prefer... both MMOs have a solid combat system.
Raids. - This is about 3% of the total player population in WoW or most MMOs
Community. - FFXIV has WoW beat for it's community, much smaller than WoW but 100 times better.
Balance. - FFXIV has very nice balance in their game. Classes play well and compliment each other. WoW keeps simplifying and removing options from their balance... oh wait they have never balanced their classes.
Game Engine. - FFXIV since the revamp has one of the most solid game engines in any MMO! PERIOD.
Number of players. - LOL.... I hope this wasn't meant to be serious. I know many MMOs with small number players that are solid games. Besides isn't an actual "thing that Blizzard or SE does.
Loot progression. - Not everyone cares about the loot rat race. Most of the gear in FFXIV is gathered through crafting.
Leveling quests. - Are you including two ideas here? The quests in both games are good. Neither game does questing much different. The story in FFXIV is more important and maintained throughout your leveling experience.
I could go on.
FFXIV since Yoshi's revamp is one of the best overall performing MMOs on the market. You may not prefer the combat style or something else about it, but the fact remains that the game engine and coding used for the revamp has made the game performance solid. I played for a long time after the relaunch and during the early days. Since relaunch there is little performance, game engine and user interface wise I would ever complain about in this game.
The gamepad performance and programing alone is miles ahead of any other MMO on the market.... oh .... wait you can't play most MMOs with a gamepad can you?
Originally posted by zaberfangx FF14 have long way to catch up to wow, is maybe 2nd or 3nd top sub mmo eve may have more. there both not going hit 1 mil. if didn't hit it be for there not going hit it now. Not saying is fail mmo, just never be as big as a monster like wow.
Originally posted by zaberfangx FF14 have long way to catch up to wow, is maybe 2nd or 3nd top sub mmo eve may have more. there both not going hit 1 mil. if didn't hit it be for there not going hit it now. Not saying is fail mmo, just never be as big as a monster like wow.
Last I checked FFXIV has 2.5 million or more now.
You're wrong.
Actually, he's correct.
Prove it.
Registered accounts are not subscribers and square themselves have said 500k.
I know this is a fan board but still when you lie you set your fellow players up for massive dissapointment.
While I don't have a clue what the actual subscriber numbers are, I do think the population is steadily growing. The past 2-3 months, when I log in in the evenings, there's always a small queue, which I hadn't seen since shortly after launch.
Originally posted by zaberfangx FF14 have long way to catch up to wow, is maybe 2nd or 3nd top sub mmo eve may have more. there both not going hit 1 mil. if didn't hit it be for there not going hit it now. Not saying is fail mmo, just never be as big as a monster like wow.
Last I checked FFXIV has 2.5 million or more now.
You're wrong.
Actually, he's correct.
Prove it.
Registered accounts are not subscribers and square themselves have said 500k.
I know this is a fan board but still when you lie you set your fellow players up for massive dissapointment.
Don't bother. I've been in a clinch with tko before, and also then he was unable to understand basic realities.
I just returned to the game recently after being disappointed with SWTORs' new expansion. I knew XIV was still doing well since release, but I had no idea how well. I have no idea what the actual numbers are, but log into any server and you'll see people. And lots of them, across all zones. Half the NA servers are still on population lock downs and I have even dealt with log-in queues during peak hours. I've mostly been on my original server re leveling my old toon in a new class, But, I've also been leveling on several other servers as well since I kinda wanted to re-experience the story again.
This is nearly unheard of in any Post-WoW MMORPG after 16 months of operation. Every zone I've seen still has plenty of people running Fates, Leves and/or quests.
So, you can argue numbers if you want. Or you can play the game and see for yourself just how popular this game still is.
$15 for 1 day of content per week. Restricted on purpose by SE.I am not an idiot, they get no money from me for that shit.
Unless there are some drastic changes to the core game i don't see a bright future.
Grind old dungeons or hunts for TokenXYZ but only 400 then you are done for the week unless you do your single coil run too.
Every couple months SE comes up with a new TokenXYZ and a single new set per class with +3 stats and you start the grind all over again.
Golden Saucer is cute but will get old really quick.
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Best part: A new player that has not played for a year comes back to the game and starts grinding same tokens of the Month instantly being at the same level as veterans getting the same gear while others paid for 1 year subscriptions.
Lol not sure what you are smoking. This game comes out with quality content faster than any other game out there.
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Now you are blaming him for SE not releasing new numbers?
Those are the most recent official numbers we have.
To me recently does not imply a year ago. The number may not have budged but I'm just saying there's 11 months in between that data and today. Hardly a reliable indicator of anything. Hell, that was pre-chinese and korean release too.
I'm fine with 600k or whatever but the numbers are still none the less hopelessly outdated.
As Kiterad says it will be March soon.
As for the 2M number for FFXIV that was registered accounts - since launch. 100% sub retention? Seriously? Enough said.
I dunno, remember when that one guy posted that ESO would be at 10 million active subs by the end of 2014? I think that thread got up to around 100 pages.
I dunno, remember when that one guy posted that ESO would be at 10 million active subs by the end of 2014? I think that thread got up to around 100 pages.
Hehe yeah but these wild predictions are fun! Ive made a few myself.
Here are recent figures.
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/square-enix-mmo-trio-fails-to-muster-1m-subscribers/0143457
The website contacted square and told them 500k.
Also more updates dont mean anything, rift showed us that. More is not always better in the mmo world.
Square will just say all 3 titles have nearly 1 million again. Which is very vague anyway, nearly can be 700k+
My thoughts exactly.
Ffxiv players:
Sub numbers dont matter, square dont care about profits! But those numbers are old, game has more than 500k now, my server is full, wow beater, 3 million!
Ffxiv players come across like a guy in big car, size doesnt matter but look at my massive car!
Ffxiv is doing no better than any other normal mmo, if they accepted that people would argue less. Still amazes me op posred this thread in general. Mmo titles are all about finding niches, ffxiv is not the 2nd or 3rd biggest its just another niche title.
Enjoy your game and stop trying to win, you dont see people hating on games unless their players bring it out in others.
I hate comments about how WoW will never be topped or crushed because they said the SAME thing about Everquest. It WILL happen...eventually. It always does... there will be something bigger and better, that's life, always happens. I still play WoW too but I am not a fanboy. I simply play it because it is polished and it's easy to get in and get something done if i really want to. At the same time... it's boring. Plain and simple. Nothing new to see here...move along type stuff.
I liked FFXIV:ARR and still have an account though not active. I'm waiting for the expansion to come out. I don't like "grindy" games unless it's grindy like EQ in a social group setting and not solo setting. People leave alot of games these days because they aren't "social group" type games. They are just fast paced smash this and move on type games. The cooldown in FFXIV: ARR actually quicken the higher level you gear and the better gear through haste type stats. Doesn't bother me though.
Last I checked FFXIV has 2.5 million or more now.
ArcheAge at launch and then shortly after had like max 8-10 servers US side..... that's too many?
You're wrong.
It does matter though. It is probably in the same ballpark as GW2 and SWTOR like you say. The only difference is that it charges a sub. Would those games have that many people with a sub?
James T. Kirk: All she's got isn't good enough! What else ya got?
FFXIV since Yoshi's revamp is one of the best overall performing MMOs on the market. You may not prefer the combat style or something else about it, but the fact remains that the game engine and coding used for the revamp has made the game performance solid. I played for a long time after the relaunch and during the early days. Since relaunch there is little performance, game engine and user interface wise I would ever complain about in this game.
The gamepad performance and programing alone is miles ahead of any other MMO on the market.... oh .... wait you can't play most MMOs with a gamepad can you?
Clearly you don't play the game.
Actually, he's correct.
Both are polished p2p games but ff isn't even 10 percent of wow subs. funny thread.
Prove it.
Registered accounts are not subscribers and square themselves have said 500k.
I know this is a fan board but still when you lie you set your fellow players up for massive dissapointment.
Don't bother. I've been in a clinch with tko before, and also then he was unable to understand basic realities.
I just returned to the game recently after being disappointed with SWTORs' new expansion. I knew XIV was still doing well since release, but I had no idea how well. I have no idea what the actual numbers are, but log into any server and you'll see people. And lots of them, across all zones. Half the NA servers are still on population lock downs and I have even dealt with log-in queues during peak hours. I've mostly been on my original server re leveling my old toon in a new class, But, I've also been leveling on several other servers as well since I kinda wanted to re-experience the story again.
This is nearly unheard of in any Post-WoW MMORPG after 16 months of operation. Every zone I've seen still has plenty of people running Fates, Leves and/or quests.
So, you can argue numbers if you want. Or you can play the game and see for yourself just how popular this game still is.
Lol not sure what you are smoking. This game comes out with quality content faster than any other game out there.