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ArcheAge: Trion 'Fesses Up to Mistake, Makes Good

SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129

A post on the ArcheAge forums continues, or hopefully ends, the controversy created last week with a gift sent out to former players. "Return to ArcheAge" packages included several RNG boxes, potions and Library access scrolls. However, several random boxes also included the $100 "Secrets Pack" and the Cynafin Dolphin which gave its name to the issue now known as "Dolphingate". Players loudly decried the move. Trion has subsequently admitted the error in judgment and is making good with players.

As of this writing, all ArcheAge players should have received:

All players will receive a "Community Appreciation Reward" (I might have missed a detail or two below)

Non-paying players (includes patrons who ONLY got patron via purchase of APEX from auction house):


  • 4 Bound Pirate Yata Chest

  • 2 bound worker's comp (500)

  • 1 bound vocation tonic

  • 10 Golden library index

  • 1 Tyrenos index

Paying Patrons (paid Trion with real money for Patron or for anything else at any time in the past "by midnight last night", [including] APEX bought with real money, but NOT APEX bought via auction house):


  • Cyanfin mount

  • Starlight Glider Customization

  • 7 day passes to Library Floors

  • 5 bound Worker's Comp (500 labor)

  • 2 bound vocation tonics

  • 30 bound Golden Library Index

  • 10 bound Tyrenos Index

  • 10 xp potion

  • 1 of each lucky point (Sun, Moon, Star)

  • 1 of each archeum essence (Sun, Moon, Star)

Source: MMORPG.com forum (with the updated quote) and ArcheAge Reddit

What do you think of Trion's move? Does it help, hurt, change nothing? Let us know in the comments.

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Image source: MMOMounts.com


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  • adam_noxadam_nox Member UncommonPosts: 2,148

    I remember when this was going to revolutionize the mmorpg genre. 

     

    For some reason, only crazies get into betas and spout this nonsense, then the rest of us have to deal with the letdown.

  • KyarraKyarra Member UncommonPosts: 789
    See kids, this is what whining can get you!
  • PepeqPepeq Member UncommonPosts: 1,977
    Pretty sure most people got 30 days of fun out of this... which is all you get out of most MMOs these days.
  • meonthissitemeonthissite Member UncommonPosts: 917
    I see that they are still segregating the paid and non-paid communities. No thanks! They can keep this trainwreck!
  • jdlamson75jdlamson75 Member UncommonPosts: 1,010
    Looks like they're Trion pretty hard to make amends...       /wrists
  • itchmonitchmon Member RarePosts: 1,999
    Better than denial; baby steps, trion, baby steps

    RIP Ribbitribbitt you are missed, kid.

    Currently Playing EVE, ESO

    Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and not clothed.

    Dwight D Eisenhower

    My optimism wears heavy boots and is loud.

    Henry Rollins

  • Tracho12Tracho12 Member UncommonPosts: 136

    How is this 'making good'?

     

    They're giving away in-game items, most of which are going to inactive accounts. These were items that were already available in game prior to this charade so it's not like doing any of this cost them a dime.

     

    In return, they're getting publicity from every MMO site on the net despite having the WORST launch (can we even call it a launch?) in MMO history. This isn't 'making good', this is fleecing MMO sites for free advertising.

     

    I'd be shocked if the whole thing wasn't planned.

  • HorusraHorusra Member EpicPosts: 4,411
    Why should the paying and non-paying not be segregated?
  • Fly666monkeyFly666monkey Member UncommonPosts: 161
    Originally posted by Horusra
    Why should the paying and non-paying not be segregated?

    Dividing the playerbase is just a bad idea. Without the free players being able to access content, the paying players usually don't have enough people to do the content they want, so they leave, and it creates a sense of elitism in the community. When paying players treat free players like crap, the free players are less likely to stick around, which leads to less free players turning into paying players, which means even less players for paying players to play with, so more paying players leave... repeat until the game shuts down due to lack of funds.

  • crysentcrysent Member UncommonPosts: 841
    This game has been a train wreck since day 1. Game mechanics were solid, cash grab was unreal.

    Why the hell would someone buy 600 of anything to get a dolphin? You gotta be kidding...right?
  • SaunZSaunZ Member UncommonPosts: 472

    I left AA when they had the big crash during the new island with castles fiasco.   They never made good! 

     

    To make good they need to buy me some cool stuff in TESO.

     

    Sz  :o)

  • GoldenArrowGoldenArrow Member UncommonPosts: 1,186

    Thought Trion was going to announce P2P server.

    Guess not.

  • TalonsinTalonsin Member EpicPosts: 3,619

    You are a bit off in the facts.  Trion supposedly never stated the following:

    "Paying Patrons (paid Trion with real money for Patron or for anything else at any time in the past "by midnight last night", [including] APEX bought with real money, but NOT APEX bought via auction house):"

     

    This was posted on reddit by a non-Trion employee and spread here on these forums by a white knight.  The reddit poster paraphrased a bit.  Apparently Trion never stated the part about paying money ANYTIME in the past.  The message on their official forum reads:

    "All active paying accounts may claim the following items:
    • 1 Cyanfin"

    and

    "*To be considered active, an account must have logged in at least once in the last 30 days prior to 11:59 PM GMT (4:59 PM PDT) on 3/19/2015."

    source: http://forums.archeagegame.com/showthread.php?173025-ArcheAge-Community-Appreciation-Giveaway

    No where did TRION say that anyone who paid real money in the past would get a dolphin mount.  The actual wording is not very specific but my opinion is that Trion only gave the mount to those who paid real money in the last 30 days.  I paid for patron for the first 5 months and I logged in during the time frame but I did not receive the mount and neither did any of my friends who have left the game. 

    I sure wish Trion would learn to communicate clearly.  If their internal communication was better, they would not have had this issue in the first place.

     

    "Sean (Murray) saying MP will be in the game is not remotely close to evidence that at the point of purchase people thought there was MP in the game."  - SEANMCAD

  • grimgryphongrimgryphon Member CommonPosts: 682
    Originally posted by GoldenArrow

    Thought Trion was going to announce P2P server.

    Guess not.

    If they did, I'd go back and play in a heartbeat.

    Optional PvP = No PvP
  • PoporiPopori Member UncommonPosts: 334
    'Fesses Up' AKA finally started bleeding enough players to cast out their nets to see what  can be dragged back up for the next round of blunders and cash grabs.
  • Raven322Raven322 Member UncommonPosts: 68

    Remember when game controversies revolved around things like gameplay elements?

     

    Now it's about who got what free stuff versus who got what in their paid downloadable content packs.

    This industry is pathetic and is dead.

  • Charlie.CheswickCharlie.Cheswick Member UncommonPosts: 469
    This game is nothing more than a casino desguised as an MMO, which is sad bbecause the MMO portion of the game is not bad.
    -Chuckles
  • FoomerangFoomerang Member UncommonPosts: 5,628

    Trion gets the "Best of the Worst" award....congrats!

  • VolgoreVolgore Member EpicPosts: 3,872
    Originally posted by Talonsin

    You are a bit off in the facts.  Trion supposedly never stated the following:

    "Paying Patrons (paid Trion with real money for Patron or for anything else at any time in the past "by midnight last night", [including] APEX bought with real money, but NOT APEX bought via auction house):"

     

    This was posted on reddit by a non-Trion employee and spread here on these forums by a white knight.  The reddit poster paraphrased a bit.  Apparently Trion never stated the part about paying money ANYTIME in the past.  The message on their official forum reads:

    "All active paying accounts may claim the following items:
    • 1 Cyanfin"

    and

    "*To be considered active, an account must have logged in at least once in the last 30 days prior to 11:59 PM GMT (4:59 PM PDT) on 3/19/2015."

    source: http://forums.archeagegame.com/showthread.php?173025-ArcheAge-Community-Appreciation-Giveaway

    No where did TRION say that anyone who paid real money in the past would get a dolphin mount.  The actual wording is not very specific but my opinion is that Trion only gave the mount to those who paid real money in the last 30 days.  I paid for patron for the first 5 months and I logged in during the time frame but I did not receive the mount and neither did any of my friends who have left the game. 

    I sure wish Trion would learn to communicate clearly.  If their internal communication was better, they would not have had this issue in the first place.

     

    Stop angering the white knight with facts. It will only result in him starting new threads with his usual made up stuff in response ;)

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  • thunderclesthundercles Member UncommonPosts: 510
    Wow...gotta say I'm impressed. Well played trion. I'm still skeptical but this was a good show.
  • GruugGruug Member RarePosts: 1,793
    Played (and paid) about 4 months worth in this game. It was fun up to about month 3. At that point, I did not feel I was getting my money's worth so I left. Won't be returning.

    Let's party like it is 1863!

  • flizzerflizzer Member RarePosts: 2,455

    I must have misunderstood something.  People are buying 600 or so boxes , maybe more, to get a dolphin?   

     

  • observerobserver Member RarePosts: 3,685
    How many times are they going to apologize for their mistakes?  It's bad enough they keep making mistakes.  They seem to be ruining their once good reputation with Archeage.
  • zaberfangxzaberfangx Member UncommonPosts: 1,796
    Originally posted by crysent
    This game has been a train wreck since day 1. Game mechanics were solid, cash grab was unreal.

    Why the hell would someone buy 600 of anything to get a dolphin? You gotta be kidding...right?

    Have to rethink what cash grab means, I can play the game, if I did play with out playing a dime, mmo drop expansions and lock content and level is a cash grab.

  • Dragon43591Dragon43591 Member UncommonPosts: 47
    remember when apb was the only game to have prize grabbing boxes of Festering crab-poodoo with timers on it....yeaaa this garbage is going to hell..
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