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One does not simply add sex to MMORPG?

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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Going by what this group of developers has done so far (i.e. copied SC's monetizing idea by selling houses for $200+) this is just their way of priming you to sell you brothels for $500. :)
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  • FranconsteinFranconstein Member UncommonPosts: 99
    Originally posted by Azaron_Nightblade

    LOL, I remember you from the other thread where you freaked out about "naked female characters".

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/6614698#6614698

    Originally posted by Franconstein

    I had never heard of the game, but I was willing to try it out... until I saw virtually naked female characters. Since I'm not a horny teenager anymore, I'll pass.

     

    In any case, thanks for sharing the link. We need more people like you, and I mean it. Even though I'm not interested in THIS game, it's good to know when one can apply for a beta.

     

     

    Also, what's up with mentioning horny teenagers in every post I see from you? xD

    Besides those amusing notions, you are right that it's not as much of a big deal as some people make of it. As long as it's properly communicated what's in the game, people will know what they're getting into.

    Did you actually read what I posted? There's a huge difference between portraying sex in a game (as in any other medium) and showing mailkini women with huge breasts. First off, that's not sex as a topic - it's the sexualization of a character. Second off, that sexualization is immature and makes the industry look bad. And yes, the "horny teenagers" is a stigma that the media has pinned on gamers as a whole. It's not true, but these games don't help at all.

     

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  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    Originally posted by Franconstein
    Originally posted by Azaron_Nightblade

    LOL, I remember you from the other thread where you freaked out about "naked female characters".

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/6614698#6614698

    Originally posted by Franconstein

    I had never heard of the game, but I was willing to try it out... until I saw virtually naked female characters. Since I'm not a horny teenager anymore, I'll pass.

     

    In any case, thanks for sharing the link. We need more people like you, and I mean it. Even though I'm not interested in THIS game, it's good to know when one can apply for a beta.

     

     

    Also, what's up with mentioning horny teenagers in every post I see from you? xD

    Besides those amusing notions, you are right that it's not as much of a big deal as some people make of it. As long as it's properly communicated what's in the game, people will know what they're getting into.

    Did you actually read what I posted? There's a huge difference between portraying sex in a game (as in any other medium) and showing mailkini women with huge breasts. First off, that's not sex as a topic - it's the sexualization of a character. Second off, that sexualization is immature and makes the industry look bad. And yes, the "horny teenagers" is a stigma that the media has pinned on gamers as a whole. It's not true, but these games don't help at all.

     

    none of it comes even remotely close to the gratuitous violence

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  • FranconsteinFranconstein Member UncommonPosts: 99
    Originally posted by SEANMCAD

    none of it comes even remotely close to the gratuitous violence

    Which is the first thing I mention in my post. Movies, books, even games can have gratuitous violence and, as a society, we deem that okay. That's just PG-13. But sex? Hell, no! That's something every OTHER medium can dabble in, but not us. No, sir!

     

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  • TanemundTanemund Member UncommonPosts: 154

    As has been said before, I'm not sure this really adds anything to game experience.  Leisure Suit Larry meets Aragon of Gondor?  Really?

     

    It does raise a bunch of questions though.  If you're married in Real Life and you have sex in game are you cheating on your RL partner?  Do people you have sex with in game count towards you're real life "number"?  If you get in game VD are you morally obligated to tell all of your past in game sex partners?  Who do you sue if the contraception doesn't work?  If you can have a kid are there virtual diapers that need changed?  By the by, who gets to play the baby avatar?  Is it shared custody with weekend visitation or what?

     

    My sense of humor wonders just what it would be like to sit down to lunch with a co worker who's avatar you "did it" with last night.  I'm pretty sure that would make the RL relationship get a little "weird".  Or imagine sitting down to lunch with someone you struck out with in game the previous night.  Also a little "weird". 

     

    This seems gimicky to me.  I can just see the reviews now.  "Yeah, the quests in PvE are pretty pedestrian.  The PvP stinks.  However, my avatar got busy with just about everyone on the server!  Totally worth $15 per month."

     

    Maybe just leave the quest for love or lust for Real Life.  It gives everyone an excuse to log off every so often.

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  • YanocchiYanocchi Member UncommonPosts: 677
    Originally posted by DMKano

    Nothing wrong with sex in games - I have zero problems with it, but why OP gives credit to GoT as far as sez goes makes no sense to me.

    I see this limiting the game to a smaller audience and this is a big HELL NO for any major studio.

     

    Game of Thrones is the first mainstream product to bring a lot of sex-related content into the fantasy genre without major backlash or decrease in the show's popularity. Game developers might notice this and try to introduce more sex into games too. The lead designer of Revival has mentioned that players who stay completely away from sex in the game might miss some other, possibly important, content in the same way that viewers might miss something important if they skip sex scenes in episodes of Game of Thrones. 

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  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,483
    Originally posted by Franconstein

    A game talks about implementing a sex mini-game minor mechanic? BLASPHEMY! Oh, but it's okay that a game lets you blow open a guy's head, then kick it while it rolls on the floor. Not only it's okay, but if you add a slow-motion effect, it's even BETTER! Yes! Let's let people take their time to see how that other human's guts spread towards the wall when he gets hit by a shotgun blast. 

    I don't like gratuitous gore in games, either.  You do the necessary amount of damage to kill something, it falls to the ground, lays there a bit, then despawns.  That's better than blood splattering all over the place.

  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    Originally posted by Quizzical
    Originally posted by Franconstein

    A game talks about implementing a sex mini-game minor mechanic? BLASPHEMY! Oh, but it's okay that a game lets you blow open a guy's head, then kick it while it rolls on the floor. Not only it's okay, but if you add a slow-motion effect, it's even BETTER! Yes! Let's let people take their time to see how that other human's guts spread towards the wall when he gets hit by a shotgun blast. 

    I don't like gratuitous gore in games, either.  You do the necessary amount of damage to kill something, it falls to the ground, lays there a bit, then despawns.  That's better than blood splattering all over the place.

    what I like about Kerbal Space Program is that they have proven that its possible to make a game that is highly engaging, fun, educational, challenging and with zero killing (unless you crash)

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  • superstarman22superstarman22 Member Posts: 17
    Originally posted by SEANMCAD

    Originally posted by Quizzical
    Originally posted by Franconstein
    A game talks about implementing a sex mini-game minor mechanic? BLASPHEMY! Oh, but it's okay that a game lets you blow open a guy's head, then kick it while it rolls on the floor. Not only it's okay, but if you add a slow-motion effect, it's even BETTER! Yes! Let's let people take their time to see how that other human's guts spread towards the wall when he gets hit by a shotgun blast. 

    I don't like gratuitous gore in games, either.  You do the necessary amount of damage to kill something, it falls to the ground, lays there a bit, then despawns.  That's better than blood splattering all over the place.

    what I like about Kerbal Space Program is that they have proven that its possible to make a game that is highly engaging, fun, educational, challenging and with zero killing (unless you crash)

     

    yes, it is curious how many of our games are based on "killing things"... even Duck Hunt was pretty violent when you think about it...
  • FranconsteinFranconstein Member UncommonPosts: 99
    Originally posted by superstarman22

     

    yes, it is curious how many of our games are based on "killing things"... even Duck Hunt was pretty violent when you think about it...

     

    Ha ha! It is, indeed! Even Mario, if you think about it, is violent in nature. Hell, Pac Man, too. You're EATING your "enemies" (who are just trying to stop you from destroying everything).

     

    Portal was revolutionary for its mechanics. Not just because of the concept of portals, but because it was a First-Person Shooter in which you're not shooting people / monsters.

     

    This has been a subject of much debate. It's the only medium that emphasizes so much on violence, even when it's "undercover". Imagine if movies or books did the same thing. The things we'd have missed out on!

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  • HorusraHorusra Member EpicPosts: 4,411
    Originally posted by Yanocchi
    Originally posted by DMKano

    Nothing wrong with sex in games - I have zero problems with it, but why OP gives credit to GoT as far as sez goes makes no sense to me.

    I see this limiting the game to a smaller audience and this is a big HELL NO for any major studio.

     

    Game of Thrones is the first mainstream product to bring a lot of sex-related content into the fantasy genre without major backlash or decrease in the show's popularity. Game developers might notice this and try to introduce more sex into games too. The lead designer of Revival has mentioned that players who stay completely away from sex in the game might miss some other, possibly important, content in the same way that viewers might miss something important if they skip sex scenes in episodes of Game of Thrones. 

    Game of Thrones in the US is also on a pay tv channel that protects it and allows it to show whatever it wants.

     

    ...wait what important content would you miss.  Unless the game is letting you make babies you are not really missing content besides seeing crappy animation porn.

  • FranconsteinFranconstein Member UncommonPosts: 99
    Originally posted by Horusra

    ...wait what important content would you miss.  Unless the game is letting you make babies you are not really missing content besides seeing crappy animation porn.

    I'm taking a shot in the dark here, but maybe there are quests that unlock only after you've had sex at least once. Maybe it's like Fable, and you can buy a brothel, but you need to "try the merchandising" before. Perhaps you get VD and embark on an epic chain quest to get tested only to find that you need a special herb that only grows at the top of a hill surrounded by the most elite enemies.

     

    Maybe you're just missing out on a few character titles, like "Promiscuous". Hm... I wonder if character that never had sex will be forced to wear the title "Virgin"?

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  • HorusraHorusra Member EpicPosts: 4,411
    Originally posted by Franconstein
    Originally posted by Horusra

    ...wait what important content would you miss.  Unless the game is letting you make babies you are not really missing content besides seeing crappy animation porn.

    I'm taking a shot in the dark here, but maybe there are quests that unlock only after you've had sex at least once. Maybe it's like Fable, and you can buy a brothel, but you need to "try the merchandising" before. Perhaps you get VD and embark on an epic chain quest to get tested only to find that you need a special herb that only grows at the top of a hill surrounded by the most elite enemies.

     

    Maybe you're just missing out on a few character titles, like "Promiscuous". Hm... I wonder if character that never had sex will be forced to wear the title "Virgin"?

    Now I have to save gold to buy condoms for my character...if I buy with real money is that P2W? image

  • Flyte27Flyte27 Member RarePosts: 4,574

    I live in the US and women are very touchy these days about any topic regarding sex.  Mostly because they want to be treated as equals and not craved as sex objects.  I can't really say that I blame them there.  Many are smarted then males in a lot of regards. 

    I feel like from what I've seen in Asia they are heavily into sex type stuff and I've heard there is a lot of rape there.  In the US there used to be a lot of sexual harassment, but it's gone down a lot because of women in power putting in place laws to stop people from harassing women in or even outside of business environments.  It's against the law.

    I never really minded silly sex in games myself, but I'm a guy.  I think it can be used as a device plot if you realize it's just a game and not real people.  A lot of old games I played had device plots that involved houses of prostitution.  Baldur's Gate 2 had a few shady areas with women sleeping with men for money.  A lot of old JRPGs had much more intense relationships even if there was no sex involved.  I did play one game called cosmic fantasy when I was young that had a nude cartoon women in the shower lol.  When you are a teenager that can have a large impact fake or not.

    Back to the main issue which is many women don't feel comfortable with depictions of other women being used in primary a sexual manner.  They feel it is a not a good message to send to men or women that this is how things should happen between men and women.  The issue seems to be one more of respect for others then anything else.

    I still believe that relationships can be used as a good plot device, but I'm not a huge fan of acting out or even watching sex in games anymore.  I don't see a whole lot of emotion in video game relationships these days.  I guess perhaps it's to cheesy for most people of this generation.  I thought the final fantasy games had some good dialogue in this regard.

    I've read in Egypt that women were treated as equals showing the sign of an advanced society.

  • YanocchiYanocchi Member UncommonPosts: 677
    Originally posted by Horusra

    Game of Thrones in the US is also on a pay tv channel that protects it and allows it to show whatever it wants.

     

    ...wait what important content would you miss.  Unless the game is letting you make babies you are not really missing content besides seeing crappy animation porn.

     

    In some European countries Game of Thrones is shown on public TV channels nowadays. They show a season on pay television first and then a year or two later they show it on free public channels.

     

    I guess Revival developer meant that you might miss important gossip, rumours or quests if you never visit a brothel or interact with NPC prostitutes in the game. In that game you'll get tags whenever you read, hear or see something, and  NPCs will have their own life like in The Sims games, being able to receive and share information and tags just like player characters. Acquiring skills, quests, stories and rumours will be based on discovering and getting tags (or maybe it is the other way around). An NPC prostitute might witness something during her daily life, like see something during a walk in a park or hear a rumour in the brothel from some other NPC or player character, get a tag, then share it with you.

     

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  • VrikaVrika Member LegendaryPosts: 7,973
    Originally posted by Flyte27

    I feel like from what I've seen in Asia they are heavily into sex type stuff and I've heard there is a lot of rape there.  In the US there used to be a lot of sexual harassment, but it's gone down a lot because of women in power putting in place laws to stop people from harassing women in or even outside of business environments.  It's against the law.

    You've heard completely false information. In 2010 USA had 27.3 reported rapes per 100 000 people, whereas Japan had only 1 reported rape per 100 000 people. 

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics

    That doesn't mean there wouldn't be a lot of rape somewhere in Asia, but those countries don't have that much sex type stuff.

     
  • Flyte27Flyte27 Member RarePosts: 4,574
    Originally posted by Vrika
    Originally posted by Flyte27

    I feel like from what I've seen in Asia they are heavily into sex type stuff and I've heard there is a lot of rape there.  In the US there used to be a lot of sexual harassment, but it's gone down a lot because of women in power putting in place laws to stop people from harassing women in or even outside of business environments.  It's against the law.

    You've heard completely false information. In 2010 USA had 27.3 reported rapes per 100 000 people, whereas Japan had only 1 reported rape per 100 000 people. 

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics

    That doesn't mean there wouldn't be a lot of rape somewhere in Asia, but those countries don't have that much sex type stuff.

    Reported doesn't mean a whole lot IMO.

    I've seen a lot of Asian material that contains rape and I've also read that many Japanese women are anxious to leave the country.

    Not many women report being raped.  Less report it in a society dominated by males where they are afraid of doing so and feel ashamed.

    I could be wrong, but it is the feeling I get.

  • WarlyxWarlyx Member EpicPosts: 3,367
    lol , mini game , hiring prostitues .....dafuq?

     

  • winterwinter Member UncommonPosts: 2,281

     Yes sex is simply added to games.

    The WItcher is a very well loved series of games with #3 highly waited for. All of them have simply had a lot of sex. sure its not the main goal of the game but its very hard to miss weather its the act itself or the cards one gained for doing it in the witcher 1 etc.

    Was the sex some great meaningfull romantic plot line? Mainly not it was simply sex. I rest my case. 

  • IridescentJoeIridescentJoe Member Posts: 89
    I don't see an issue with this. Perhaps the game may get an "A" (adult) rating, which I really don't care as long as the game is released without censoring it. Many things can happen by 2017/2018 which is the expected release of stage 6 if I recall. And I think it's a good timing for a dark fantasy MMORPG. I have my eyes on this one.
  • spacestarspacespacestarspace Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 15
    IMAGINE IF characters who did have sex in game - gave birth to new characters, with attributes based on the "donors", whom would become playable characters for the "parents". Each generation becoming stronger and stronger!
  • GestankfaustGestankfaust Member UncommonPosts: 1,989
    Originally posted by Skuall
    lol , mini game , hiring prostitues .....dafuq?

     

    yeah..."defuq" over the whole subject. Just can't see why it matters that we have either nudity or sex...or both...in a video game. They talk it up all adult like as if it's a natural progression to involve this content to MMOs....still seems like a bunch of kids seeing a Playboy mag for the first time IMO.

     

    Don't need it in my MMO...not because of any religious or political reason...cause if I need nudity or sex...I know where to go IRL.

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  • GestankfaustGestankfaust Member UncommonPosts: 1,989
    Originally posted by spacestarspace
    IMAGINE IF characters who did have sex in game - gave birth to new characters, with attributes based on the "donors", whom would become playable characters for the "parents". Each generation becoming stronger and stronger!

    They had this in Fable I think...and is a great idea. As long as the whole need to see the nudity and/or sex is optional.

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  • HowbadisbadHowbadisbad Member UncommonPosts: 453

    Not exactly a new thing, there are a couple 'MMOs' with sex in them already, I think Second Life would be the most notable.

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  • JemcrystalJemcrystal Member UncommonPosts: 1,988
    The proper gaming terminology is not "sex" it's Whoohoo!  Get it right.


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