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To be honest this is my hope too. GW2 is not "broken", it just needs "tweaks" to make it more about build variety and experimentation. GW1 felt a lot more like the singleplayer RPGs as you controlled a whole party and the whole levelling experience was challenging to an extent. IT was never brain dead easy. IT was a very clever way of circumventing the "no skill required" levelling associated with MMOs
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well then you should have no reason to want a spiritual successor if thats your opinion (:
Thats a seperate post that I did not see. This post is titled Guild Wars 1 spiritual successor.
Well if they removed the ability to jump, WvW, world verticality, and open world, then turned the cities into instanced lobbies with NPCs you could hire to round out your group instead of actual players then I guess it could be like GW1.
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I meant more along the lines of dodge.
youre right GW2 does a lot of things better, its a newer game. I just dont like that they chose to move away from the massive amounts of skills but its successful in its own right and obviously appeals to a lot of people.
Don't think there is any.
Think GW 1 was a pretty unique game that wasn't a MMO but was a online RPG. GW 2 is a MMORPG and gives that game a complete different game experiance that I can not compare to GW 1.
Dungeons and Dragons Online might come close, nothing else comes to mind. Doesn't mean there isn't anything else but hopefully others in the game community can help out with that.
You do know that similar doesn't 100 % like the original.Guild Wars 1 mechanics were at they're core about tactical and strategic play and ideas were about reinforcing and rewarding set type of playing.Jumping and dodging are easy to add and wont hurt or break the mechanics,hell it could be even use and better then whats now in most mmos.Being that if you can dodge only 2 times and if doesn't have any substance in the over all mechanics in a game that a monk can solo an elite mission and assassins can shrug off damage likes its noting.Jumping will nice to have,but if has substances it will add more variety and complexity to the mechanics.Action Combat no big deal.Open World could be harder,but can be easily overcome in that type of mechanics.Zerg play is most impossible in tactical and strategic games and it will be not missed in by any player that loves quality in they're mmo.
Also What Do You Care If A Guild Wars 1 Spiritual Successor Gets Made Out Side Of Guild Wars Series.Guild Wars 2 get to be the same as it is and Guild Wars fan of the mechanics and ideas of original Guild Wars get they're own mmo.
More Guild Wars 1 love from :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jk5Pok7P2ic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xssb7WDSZIs
Freedom of builds is what I want.
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haqving 1500 skills sounds awesome....on paper and "conceptual" level
If you are so sure that same people who made GW1 decided to axe it just on a whim, more power to you.
When it gets promoted to practical level its unworkable. Unless you make huge restrictions on skill usage, which also defeats having 1500 skills in the first place.
Just take MTG as an example. It has awesome number of cards, but formats restrict what cards you can use and some formats that include all/most of the cards are just retarded to play.
GW2 is too faceroll for my taste, they made it an action combat mmoprg yet you can't see anything a boss is doing with particle effect density at over 9000 being blind most of the time. They are too ignorant to add a slider or cast bars but even if they did it wouldn't change the fact that you can just random dodge 24/7 or spam evade skills 24/7. I dislike twitchy combat compared to the strategy and thought required in GW1.
Builds are almost non existent, so insanely few skills to use and even the tiny pool you are limited to has at least 2/4 skills being completely useless, I'll use my class as an example (thief) traps aren't worth using and venoms are incredibly niche and suck ass as well. They can't even balanced the few skills each profession has. Skills tied to weapons is so boring, can't customize them at all. Proving that fewer skills = easier to balance is complete BS and no reason to limit variety at all.
The pvp is embarrassing, same effects issue and nothing but spammy combat. Passive effects and passive AI rule the meta, and it takes them 6 months to do some minor insignificant change while continuing to ignore the players. The absolute refusal to add GvG is borderline disrespectful to the players but I understand almost nothing from GW1 could work in GW2 when they made everyone DPS and no healers. Totally lame.
I spent 2 years playing conquest waiting for a new mode to come and when they said the new map in hearts of thorns was going to just be another map in rotation I wanted to blow my brains out. What a bunch of idiots, but I guess it's obvious that everyone would leave that horrible conquest mode in the dust and it would die.
Someone in this thread said the same people that created GW1 created GW2, I strongly disagree. I was there playing GW during the development of Grind Wars 2 and let me tell you - I saw a lot of devs on gwguru quit or should I say 'move on to other projects' not to mention I believe only 1 of the founders is still on the team now and he is obviously a complete dbag with no respect for GW.
I am all for a spiritual successor, but nothing will ever compare to the pvp in GW. The heated GvG battles and thousands of skills to play around with and countless meta I experienced, some great some horrible, but at least the game was ALWAYS changing because of the collaborative development between player and dev balancing. Never a dull moment in GW.
Very hard shoes to fill... highly doubtful of any good coming of this but you have my vote sir / maam. ANd sorry for the rant, just wanted to share my views in the hopes that a dev did see this
Guild Wars 2 doesn't even have the lore of GW1. They completely destroyed most of it. Its utter shit now and not even good enough to wipe your ass with. Not to mention all the beautiful human diversity of the first is gone.
Fuck a damn plant person
Any mmo worth its salt should be like a good prostitute when it comes to its game world- One hell of a faker, and a damn good shaker!
I agree, the lore is atrocious in GW2. Not to mention Cantha doesn't even exist on the map. The Canthan district in DR was even removed during beta or alpha, I think they want to wipe the entire thing from lore lol?
Your dream is just like how I view EQN. Fans of EQ1 and EQ2 have been waiting for EQ3, only for it to be EQN. Putting aside all unhappiness and anger, I have learnt to understand that EQN is created due to possibly the change in the demographic and the technology.
Regardless, if there is enough people requesting for a true GW successor, a dream will eventually becomes a reality (Just like Camelot Unchained).
The possibility of the universe collapsing into a singularity is higher than the birth of a perfect MMORPG.
His something nice to give you hope in your own dream.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1588672538/pantheon-rise-of-the-fallen
For me guild wars 2 is a bit of a let down compared to guild wars 1 it feels like its geared way too much towards casual's for my liking, To the OP like those other guys said you may want to look into TSW alot of my old gw1 friends play it and they say its alot like gw1, I bought it and tried it for a while but I just couldn't get into it also the setting is a bit odd its like modern mixed with fantasy, feels weird to me lol. Another one you might want to try is path of exile, I personally play it alot and I think its similar to gw1 in many ways, the setting is much darker though, but the build variety is insane way bigger than gw1, look into it. Another one which I haven't played personally is diablo 3 it could be similar from what I've read about it but not really sure.
Guild wars 1 was my first mmo I started playing it when I was 18 I'm now 26!!! I'm getting old haha, Hopefully one day there will be a true spiritual successor to gw1 but I honestly think it will never be the same, It's kind of like your first time you get drunk, its just never the same after that lol
It was also said that GW2 would have everything we loved about GW1 in a fully persistent world. The entire manifesto was a lie lol, taught me not to ever trust a dev team and don't get too hyped for a game ever cuz it's usually bullshit.
Dude what I said was an exact quote... "we've taken everything you loved about GW1 and put it into a fully persistent world" blah blah I had no more expectation than what should have been expected.
Honorable mention: "I swung a sword, HEY I swung a sword again!" what do you do in GW2? Press 1 repeatedly or just leave it on autoattack and ball up with the other players. It gets really intense when I swap to shortbow and stack might real quick before switching back and spamming 1 again. That's like, 3 entire actions.
I suggest you watch that propaganda bullshit again and rethink your statement
Another memorable quote was "We don't make grindy games" lmfao ya right
1. you did that in GW1 too
2. GW2 has no mandatory grinds. You CAN grind IF you want to.
What you imagined GW2 was to be obviously dont match what they said and what was reality. Imagination is a powerful tool.