Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard ]SW:TOR, but also WoW, have both great melee combat. You feel "connected", if you see what I mean.
Originally posted by Lord.Bachus Swtor certainly had great connecting mellee combat on the jedi/sith .... However the mellee moves on the scoundrell and agent felt out of place... But the lightsaber combat certainly felt immersive to me...and WoWs mellee combat really felt good on the warrior, but other classes are way off, like the mellee shaman that does not really connect..
Yeah WoW's prot warrior felt right to me. Shockwave and shield slam always felt satisfying
Darkfall's melee combat was most immersive in terms of visuals. Can't really beat first person perspective games like Skyrim for immersive visuals when it comes to melee combat, since the perspective more closely matches what it'd feel like in real life. Both games had lousy combat gameplay though.
Probably WOW for most immersive in terms of gameplay (getting into the flow state.)
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MMOs: Blade & Soul, Age of Conan, GW2, and ESO if it didnt have targetting.
I also like traditional tab target but all tab target mmos play the same way so saying which one is better is all about being responsive, smooth and polished, in that case WoW has the best traditional tab target combat.
Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard The only award Mortal Online's combat could win is the one for most clunky and badly animated combat.
You obviously havent played it, the melee combat is pretty neat, if anything its the only good thing you could rescue from that game. Plays like a FPS/Skyrim which is pretty impressive for an mmo, but you just said wow had the best melee combat system (which can be automated with macros, how fun) so you probably just enjoy shitty tab target combat.
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Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard The only award Mortal Online's combat could win is the one for most clunky and badly animated combat.
You obviously havent played it, the melee combat is pretty neat, if anything its the only good thing you could rescue from that game. Plays like a FPS/Skyrim which is pretty impressive for an mmo, but you just said wow had the best melee combat system (which can be automated with macros, how fun) so you probably just enjoy shitty tab target combat.
Try to stay away from making things personal, both of you have a different opinion, thats not a reason to let the shit hit the fan, certainly not for a future emperor..
and i agree with Picard... Mortal onlines combat has no depth at all from a tactical and strategical pov. But if thats the kind of combat you dig and gets you immersed in a game, so be it, after all its your opinion.
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Originally posted by Jean-Luc_Picard The only award Mortal Online's combat could win is the one for most clunky and badly animated combat.
You obviously havent played it, the melee combat is pretty neat, if anything its the only good thing you could rescue from that game. Plays like a FPS/Skyrim which is pretty impressive for an mmo, but you just said wow had the best melee combat system (which can be automated with macros, how fun) so you probably just enjoy shitty tab target combat.
Try to stay away from making things personal, both of you have a different opinion, thats not a reason to let the shit hit the fan, certainly not for a future emperor..
and i agree with Picard... Mortal onlines combat has no depth at all from a tactical and strategical pov. But if thats the kind of combat you dig and gets you immersed in a game, so be it, after all its your opinion.
Theres alot of tactics involved and teamwork, but I guess managing cooldowns is more "tactical". Anyways the thread title did say "most immersive", and Id say first person view is as immersive as you can get...
Hands down, one of the few with multi directional melee combat & combo system in an mmo, all others either fall short into 1 button smashers or the tried & tested tab targeting.
Even Wildstar with its much hyped "leet" skills required is nothing more than a 1 button bore, the telegraph system highlighting when/where you should be eliminates any real skill required.
rofl rofl no.... Age of Conan melee combat is shit and its so bad that what few players still play AoC actually prefer to only play CASTER classes. It is not a combo system - it is whack a mole with the arrow keys... it is repeating an arrow pattern like a fucking moron over and over and over. How the fuk do you think that is "immersive".... dumb dumb dumb
I do agree that Wildstar telegraph combat is boring and annoying shit though.
Originally posted by xpowderx Originally posted by BaselineOriginally posted by hikaru77CHIVALRY!!, without a single doubt. Now if we could just have a MMO like that........
One of the few games I've not regretted buying in recent years.I third that motion! Chilvary is by far the most immersive melee experience you can have on a PC!!
Why is that game called Chivalry? Looked like arena death match to me.
Well it is based on all medieval warfare. The game includes castle sieges as well. Defenders/Attackers ect with siege equipment.. The customization and so many tactics to use is unbelievable.
Other then mount and blade the most immsersive would have to be star wars, it seems to be the best combat system in a mmorpg without being another korean or oddball mmorpg. However ive yet to play elder scrolls.
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Yeah WoW's prot warrior felt right to me. Shockwave and shield slam always felt satisfying
Darkfall's melee combat was most immersive in terms of visuals. Can't really beat first person perspective games like Skyrim for immersive visuals when it comes to melee combat, since the perspective more closely matches what it'd feel like in real life. Both games had lousy combat gameplay though.
Probably WOW for most immersive in terms of gameplay (getting into the flow state.)
"What is truly revealing is his implication that believing something to be true is the same as it being true. [continue]" -John Oliver
Non MMO: The souls games and bloodborne.
MMOs: Blade & Soul, Age of Conan, GW2, and ESO if it didnt have targetting.
I also like traditional tab target but all tab target mmos play the same way so saying which one is better is all about being responsive, smooth and polished, in that case WoW has the best traditional tab target combat.
You obviously havent played it, the melee combat is pretty neat, if anything its the only good thing you could rescue from that game. Plays like a FPS/Skyrim which is pretty impressive for an mmo, but you just said wow had the best melee combat system (which can be automated with macros, how fun) so you probably just enjoy shitty tab target combat.
I enjoyed melee in DDO.
The Secret World!
...just kidding.
Try to stay away from making things personal, both of you have a different opinion, thats not a reason to let the shit hit the fan, certainly not for a future emperor..
and i agree with Picard... Mortal onlines combat has no depth at all from a tactical and strategical pov. But if thats the kind of combat you dig and gets you immersed in a game, so be it, after all its your opinion.
Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)
Age of Conan
Tera
One of the few games I've not regretted buying in recent years.
Theres alot of tactics involved and teamwork, but I guess managing cooldowns is more "tactical". Anyways the thread title did say "most immersive", and Id say first person view is as immersive as you can get...
rofl rofl no.... Age of Conan melee combat is shit and its so bad that what few players still play AoC actually prefer to only play CASTER classes. It is not a combo system - it is whack a mole with the arrow keys... it is repeating an arrow pattern like a fucking moron over and over and over. How the fuk do you think that is "immersive".... dumb dumb dumb
I do agree that Wildstar telegraph combat is boring and annoying shit though.
Very Immersive Melee:
TERA(PVP Only)
Swordsman Online/Age of Wushu(PVP Only)
Not Immersive Melee:
WoW
ESO
Darkfall
Wildstar
I honestly thought minecraft melee in PVP was more immersive than the stuff on my bad list.
Waiting for:
The Repopulation
Albion Online
I third that motion! Chilvary is by far the most immersive melee experience you can have on a PC!!
BAR NONE!!! Now only if it were in a mmo! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvW5h5KqxU4
Completely BAD ASS!!!
I third that motion! Chilvary is by far the most immersive melee experience you can have on a PC!!
BAR NONE!!! Now only if it were in a mmo! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvW5h5KqxU4
Completely BAD ASS!!!
Why is that game called Chivalry? Looked like arena death match to me.
You are welcome! Baddest melee combat game I have ever played None like it anywhere. Hella addictive too.!
Well it is based on all medieval warfare. The game includes castle sieges as well. Defenders/Attackers ect with siege equipment.. The customization and so many tactics to use is unbelievable.
It does have its pve stuff as well. But the good stuff is in multiplayer. PVE/PVP mixed vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvW5h5KqxU4
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I agreed with you! I like that style very much.