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Grimrock or Might & Magic X
MightyUnclean
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Which would you guys recommend I pick up next on Steam, Legend of Grimrock or Might & Magic X? I know it's apples and oranges, but I'm interested in both. Grimrock is $15, M&M is $25. Wife will only allow one game at a time!
Thanks!
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can get M&M X and a few more for $15.00 on current humble bumble deal
https://www.humblebundle.com/
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Great, thank you!
Man, that makes the choice even harder. Any opinions?
Yeah, the reviews on Steam seemed to show people loving Grimrock and being luke-warm on M&M.
I'm afraid that things might feel a little claustrophobic in Grimrock, compared to a more open world in M&M.
yes you do
MMX
Grimrock is not very deep and is only worth about 5 bucks.
MMX is much deeper and has far more content and an actual story.
--John Ruskin
Might and Magic X is the better bet between those two.
As an aside..Grimrock 2 is better then Grimrock 1.
LoG.
MMX had huge potential but the company has a abandoned the game. Guess it wasn't successful enough to warrant any further investment or they decided to leave it as it was after the first and only DLC and work on HMM VII. Am a huge M&M fan and really disappointed with it.
MMX became very tedious combat, LoG was more fast paced and there is the sequel to follow up with LoG. LoG had puzzles to be a more engaging game, MMX became to repetitive. Also LoG is moddable while MMX was promised that but never delivered.
LoG is a complete fully supported game while MMX was left high and dry by the developers.
I'd say go with LoG to support a company that stands by their product and not one who will abandon it with bugs left to be fixed or never fulfilling promises.
MMX is okay, but you're pretty much required to min / max your party to get anywhere. For example, ranged characters are a waste of time. Given the crap damage they do, you're better off with another spellcaster... for that matter, you need at least two casters in your party, the more the better. But only of certain schools, because some schools are useless, while others are overpowered.
I guess in short it's still a decent game, but it isn't balanced worth a damn, and Ubisoft has abandoned it. It's a real shame, because a lot of issues could be fixed with relative ease.
LoG got everything right except the twitch combat, which I'm not a fan of. I admit it does help you make up for any inadequacies of the party you made, if you get good at it.
Go LoG, or better yet LoG2.
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Oh man, the combat in Grimrock is twitch? That seems totally out of place in a classic style dungeon crawler.
Was M&M abandoned as a buggy mess, or is it a complete, stable game?
Might and Magic X if you love the old RPG's with turnbased combat and oldschool gameplay ..It's a great game
Grimrock - It's realtime /tilebased with more puzzles but also great..Can get tricky and frustrating ..But It's also great
They even released an expansion and It isn't "a buggy mess" ...and I guess It's "unbalanced" for some players who really just looks at damage output..It's a fine game and playable with any class as far as I can tell..If you like an easier game thou, play with 2 mages but it's not needed :=)
Grimrock is worlds better than MMXL, what on earth are people saying?
MMXL is an extremely average game developed by people who clearly aren't skilled developers; it's filled with numerous bugs, braindead mechanics and runs like absolute arse, complete with extreme loading times and no support for >16:9 resolutions.
Grimrock on the other hand is a superbly developed game, practically no bugs and runs extremely well.
No, they're not identical games (one is turn based, other is realtime), but Grimrock is the better of the two. You will have some fun with MMXL if you can tolerate its problems, but boy do you need a lot of tolerance. I played through it over the course of 3 weeks because I kept getting frustrated at how badly the game was programmed; beat the original campaign and haven't gone back to it to play the DLC.
Oh, and Grimrock has thousands of mods (custom scenarios), even replications of the old Eye of the Beholder games. MMXL has zero, because it required the paid version of Unity to even load the 'mod kit' properly, let alone develop anything. Then the devs abandoned it. And no, Unity 5 going free won't save the game; it doesn't even load properly with it due to deprecated functions.
So, Grimrock > MMXL. Only play MMXL if you can get it <$5, it is not worth the MSRP at all.
Someone mentioned the current humble bundle; Unless you have none of the other games and actually want to play them, it's not good value to pay $15 for it.
*I played Grimrock through at release and waited over a year for MMXL to be improved via patches, playing it only after I found out the developers abandoned the game. It still was nothing compared to Grimrock's quality.
They are very different games
Grimrock (And also excellent Grimrock 2) are twich based. Your finger dexterity will be just as important as your strategy.
Also big focus is on labyrinth puzzle solving. Switches, secret doors ...etc
M&M X is turn based with far more focus on strategy character and party build , resource management. It is also more story driven (while grimrock is story thin)
In my oppinion they are both great game, but they offer very different gameplay despite similar looks
If you want more bang for your buck I woud recommend Grimrock ( if we talk full price not humble bundle discounts)
Because they are longer and far harder , and also have strong modding community creating new levels
OK, thanks for all the advice.
Honestly, Grimrock being twitchy kills it for me. I play RPG's to relax, at a slow pace, often while multi-tasking. Twitch gameplay kills that for me.
Hell, maybe I'll get Shadowrun: Dragon Fall Director's Cut. Might be a good compromise between the two. I think it's $15 on Steam. Any thoughts on that one?
Shadowrun isn't even the same subgenre as MMXL/Grimrock, which are oldschool first person dungeon crawler style games.
It's a straight up turn based tactical RPG that plays like the new XCOM in combat, but like the older Infinity Engine games in the 'open world'.
Edit:
You might want to consider subscribing to someone like TotalBiscuit who does overviews on games to decide what looks interesting to you.
Grimrock:
Shadowrun:
Didn't make an MMXL video unfortunately, though I don't blame him. Angry Joe did a brief stream of it if you want to sample it that way:
Both are ok, however Might n magic X was a failure and since been stopped from being worked on, nice little game, I bought it at release (wish i had waited) as its been on several offers and at least 3 bundle offers since.
If you dont have it, i would recommend it and get it with the current running bundle *which includes alot of other might n magic games. well worth the purchase.
Legend of Grimrock is also a nice game, differant to MnM games, takes you back alittle for old school type play.
Both games are differant in their own rights and if it was which is better, I could not say, it comes down to personal preferance, if you can get them when on offer, do so. Also Legend of Grimrock 2 is a good game as well. I have all of them, picked up LoG2 on GoG, LoG in steam and the MnM split between steam, uplay/origin-(not sure which of these offhand, think its uplay) and GoG.
My best advice is to check youtube vids out, and scour info if your only wanting to go for 1, otherwise get em all, you wont be dissapointed.
Long time MnM fan,I found MMX was buggy and deff needed a patch.The patches were somewhere on the net as the official site i believe is no longer working.If i remember right,i got far into the game when it started to bug and never went back to it.So i would definitely not start the game unless you have it patched as i believe you cannot patch it after you start the game.
I thought the very old MnM made by Sammy games was really good for a cheap Nintendo console game.
I don't think i ever played LOG but the game sure looks very familiar.It looks like a complete copy of either a MnM,Wizardry or Lands of Lore game.Everything from the textures to gates to nooks,looks like it was copied from another game i know i have played.
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Yeah, it's 'twitch', but not in the way that most think of the term. It's kind of a slow twitch, if that makes sense? It's not a game to multitask with though, and anyhow nor should you... It deserves your full attention.
Shadowrun Dragonfall is excellent, though a completely different kind of RPG.