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Kabulozo
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Lineage 1 - 85 billion KRW
Blade & Soul - 29 billion KRW
GW2 - 22 billion KRW
Aion - 20 billion KRW
Lineage 2 - 16 billion KRW
Wildstar - 2 billion KRW
Others - 20 billion KRW
Royalties - 20 billion KRW
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Could be why the payment model is changing. I'm crossing my fingers that it is the difference.
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Look at Lineage going strong still ,what a game to be able to be this good for so long.
Is Blade and Soul F2P there ?
What games are they earning royalties on is Lineage ,Aion and Blade and Soul (in Russia),GW 2 (China) in that figure.
Looks like Blade and Soul is doing well in Taiwan. Good for the game if it maintains good numbers we might see it get more development when it comes here.
Yeah, I've just started playing it after picking it up in a humble bundle and it's actually a pretty good game. My MMO Geek son likes it too......but still prefers WoW. So I think WS should do much better with the change of payment model. It'll definitely be a game I'll play occasionally, and even throw some money at.
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Here's to hoping that F2P turns the winds favorable in Wildstar's direction.
If not I don't see it taking long before NCSoft pulls the plug (as they have a habit of doing).
I think they'll be alright though. From the little I've seen of the game plenty of work has been put into it, and there's some things it does very well. I don't see why they wouldn't be able to reach the same moderate level of success that PWE's games do.
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So the 29 Billion KRW is P2P in Korea. The rest of its earnings are in royalties. This game is about as old as GW 2 but GW 2 is B2P so the 22 Billion for GW 2 is impressive .
I like Wildstar I hope the F2P turns it round.
i think it will see a massive surge of players when it goes f2p but i dont think it will last long though.
I had fun once, it was terrible.
Thats is any model see a massive surge of players seeing the game if it's right for them, then end up keeping a small % after the rush.
yup will be interesting to see if those that stick around will be enough or if this is it's final breath.
I had fun once, it was terrible.
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Hmm, I did a look back at the financial reports at the time just before the closure of CoH. Surprisingly it appears that Wildstar is actually doing less well than City of Heroes was doing just before they were closed down. And unlike Paragon studios, I don't get the impression that they are using the operating costs for that game to also fund development of another game. I'm actually kind of shocked that they are maintaining Wildstar at all, though perhaps I am simply ill informed on the matter. Either that or NCsoft simply had some kind of prejudice against City of Heroes.
It's almost certain that they did. Otherwise there reason for shutting it down wouldn't have been "due to a realignment of company focus" or similar crap.
They also shot down all of the developers' attempts to buy themselves free, and would rather sit on an all but worthless IP until the ends of time.
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I think it might have been an issue of losing face after they made the 'kill' decision. Also fully suspect that it helped in accounting maneuvers, as there were a lot behind the scenes things going on. Not to mention that NCSoft doesn't really seem to have a good feel for western style games.
One CoH developer said that he always thought that the game had 5-4 support on the corporate board, and that one person there left/switched, and it went to 4-5 against them.
For Wildstar, they've doubtless invested a ton of money, and are still trying to figure out how to pump it up without taking the loss. If the FtP change doesn't go well, Wildstar will be walking with a noose around its neck.
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Several companies were offered Paragon Studios (including CoH) but declined because of the high debt, and little prospect of short term turnaround. Closing the studio was a reasonable business decision, unlike shuttering Tabula Rasa, which was all politics.
Not true, from what I've read. Some very sweet deals were offered to NCSoft, and they turned them all down. I think they turned them down because they didn't want to admit a mistake. Plus, accounting tricks.
Tabula Rasa was all politics, as was their underhanded booting of Garriott. Killing that game was a poor business choice, which puts their other business moves under a bit more of a microscope.
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2 billion KRW - about $1.7M in revenue before costs - say 36k population and still declining. CoH and other games have been closed when they (reportedly) had more population / revenue than this.
Launch as f2p to save face; reduce staff to the absolute minimum; hope for a miracle but plan to close maybe late next year.
I believe that pre-purchases will only be shown when the product release.
With GW2 vanilla NCSoft started selling pre-purchases in April but GW2 sales only were reported for Q3.
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This is the NCSoft slanted apologist rhetoric. We know that they were quite willing to kill the very expensive Tabula Rasa mmo, without much of an attempt to salvage it. NCSoft also lost a lawsuit due to their attempt to undercut Richard Garriott. So their moves shouldn't get any automatic benefit of the doubt.
Perhaps your google-foo is on the fritz. I can come up with several links that support the contention here. As former MMORPG columnist (and CoH dev) said,
"...It was funny because the players were in as much shock as any of the developers--and they were like, in all the forums and on private messages on Twitter, 'Why don't you try X, or Y, or Z? Have you thought about doing a Kickstarter?' Things like that. Of all of them I've read, none of them were something we didn't already try ... It just didn't work out."
The game devs thought enough of CoH that they were trying to buy it out til the very last minute. Their opinion carries some weight with me.
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/189896/behind_the_scenes_of_the_paragon_.php
http://www.shacknews.com/article/78697/shuttered-city-of-heroes-dev-failed-in-last-minute-attempt
http://www.engadget.com/2014/08/18/players-allegedly-negotiating-with-ncsoft-to-buy-city-of-heroes/
So maybe the Wildstar devs will try to buy it up when the NCSoft executioner's axe gets brandished.
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