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Are you in a guild and are you happy with it?
Jemcrystal
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It's so hard to find a good guild. I haven't yet been in a guild that met all my requirements. So are you in a guild? If not, why?
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I am not because I don't want to deal with others in games, and I am very happy about it.
No.
Yes, I am happy with it.
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I get banned in the forums for games I love, so lets see if I do better in the forums for games I hate.
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Yes, been in the same guild since 2001 in DAoC.
I think this is part of the problem. Also, most guilds nowadays will just invite anyone. I've lost count of how many "500+ members!" guilds I've seen.
It seems most people who are in a guild and content are in guilds that formed in old MMOs years and years ago and stuck together over the years.
I've been in a couple decent guilds, here and there, but nothing lasting.
Full disclosure: I'm extremely picky and have low tolerance for ignorant, childish college kids. I guess that doesn't help with finding a long-term group of people.
Most people don't like my elitist attitude so I 'own alone'
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In one of the games I play I am in a guild. I like the people. They are funny and helpful.
My problem is I do not enjoy the game enough to play often.
No..
Most games don't require community and interaction because the mechanics don't.
I still look tho, Most guilds have the predictable: "were the best guild out, we do <Insert list of everything the game has to offer> our community is great"
Which loosely translates to: Were looking for more numbers, IF we say we do all sorts of content that provides us with a wider net for potential patrons because currently nobody talks in guild chat or participates with other guildies.
Why are they not interacting? Because no content needs it.
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Agreed on to you brother.
Yes, Fun people, very polite group. No drama. GM is easy going. Couldn't be better.
I'm in a gaming guild. Been there for several years and it's the greatest way to play games. I mean every game too....not just MMOs.
At anywhere from 3k-5k members, there's always something new to try or do. Whether you want to group or not.
"This may hurt a little, but it's something you'll get used to. Relax....."
I can't play any game for longer than a month or 2 without being in a guild. Soloing everything is boring. Pugging everything means too much interaction with too many rude and selfish ... idiots. It's not that I can't stand any people in pugs, just too many of them to only ever pug. Theoretically I could also form groups from friend list, but forming groups with guildmembers as the necleus is just way more convenient/constant.
My guild requirements : small, social, with like minded people (intellect is the most important qualifier in my experience), who also share the believe that humans are more important than pixels. Recruitment preferably through invites only, not through advertizing.
Since the guilds I like don't advertize, they're going to be hard to find. But with pugging at the start of getting into a game, I've always met people who meet my expectations and then I can either ask to join their guild or ask to form one together.
All my guilds had problems, but I liked them all.
That sounds ideal, sadly in reallife I dont know a SINGLE PERSON that plays MMORPGs.
I joined what I would call the most popular Guild in gamming during Guildwars 2 release.
Sure Enough it was a fantastic family guild where people worked together. However Guildwars 2 turned stale after the first month and players started to leave the game including many guild members. Not the Guilds fault.
I couldn't waite for the release of Final Fantasy 14 to play with the same Guild but things had changed. The Leaders of the Guild must have had access to the game well before release and were well prepared. But prepared in a bad way.
From the first second of release the leaders were barking orders to run Dynamic events. " everyone should be doing this ". Voice chat was soooo irritating I had to turn it off to get some alone time. By the way voice chat was a requirement, if you turned it off you would get comments like " why, don't you like us ? ". But they would not shut up or let anyone talk. 50 or more people at a time on Ventrillo, yet controlled by around 8.
A week after release this female with an ever piercing voice showed up out of no where, barking orders and taking control of the fun. Now less people on Ventrillo she singled me out questioning my membership in the Guild. It was embarrassing. Where she even came from I could never figure......Never the less I was gone after that.
I was so mad, It's taking every ounce of energy here to not expose the Guilds name.
I hadn't been in a guild for about 12 years, so I joined one to see what it was like. Maybe it would be like the good old days!! Wrong. Every guild event was geared towards getting the leaders even more stuff while everyone else got the scraps from their table. As soon as the leaders got whet they wanted, boom, event was over. They didn't ever organise an event to help the lowbies out and didn't care how many left the guild in disgust.
As you say, guilds will invite anyone these days and frequently sink so low as to send out drive-by invites to random people - a sure sign their guild is worthless.
I've been a member of the same guild since 2007 (lotro release).
I'm one of those people that always ends up leading. Not because I want to lead but because there are always things I want to achieve that require groups, and therefore leaders, and its extremely hard to find a guild or a decent leader who has the same goals and approach to a game.
So, having joined a guild as a casual and newbie MMO player, I was leading raids within 3 months, then leading the guild within a year. It's stressful leading a guild and damn near impossible to find officers who are willing to do some work but, at the end of the day, between myself and some of the long term guild members we managed to turn our guild into a successful semi-hardcore raiding guild. We were able to complete all raids in a decent timeframe, were reasonably competitive in pvp, offered activities to casuals whilst still having time off for families / work / other games.
My preference for playing the game became the guilds preference for playing the game and we surrounded ourselves with likeminded players. The only time our guild ever became "threatened" was when the games became stale and people left. Any game with a declining playerbase becomes very hard to recruit in.
So, my suggestion, like others have said, is to start your own guild or try to reach a position of power within an existing guild. There is nothing to stop you from playing the game the exact way you want to, except yourself. If you can't find a guild to suit your needs but you won't put in the effort to create your own then thats on you. The best way to go about this is to just accept the inevitable trash in pugs and just do pugs a lot. Maybe 1 in every 30 players might be a nice person to talk to, so add them as a friend, put in the effort to group with them in the future. Before long, you'll have a friendlist big enough to form a guild from.
I love guilds, am currently in a Corp in EVE and enjoy working and chatting with the group to achieve common goals.
But I've always been a guild hopper. I don't look to make long term friends in them, last time I did that was back in Lineage 1 and DAOC, and I'm still in regular contact with many of those folks and occasionally game with them when we have a common interest.
I'm also a member of a major "Corporate Guild", and they are great fun too, cover a wide range of titles, and I hook up with them on occasion, though they tend to be very raid/shooter focused, and I pretty much play EVE.
Even in EVE I've probably been a member of at least 15 Corps in the past 7 years, and in fact have been a member in 4 this year alone. (finding the right one is sometimes a hit or miss proposition)
Now regarding the "happy" part, I really only join guilds for human companionship and interaction, but I'm not there to establish long term relationships. As long as my common goals and the guilds' are in alignment, I stick around and once I feel that I can no longer achieve what I want I tend to move on without any fuss to another group.
I'll bet in my entire MMORPG career I have very easily been a member of more than 50 guilds, and I'm sure there's more new guilds on the horizon.
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