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WoW is still the "best" MMO released.

OhhPaigeyOhhPaigey Member RarePosts: 1,517
edited September 2015 in The Pub at MMORPG.COM
This is a game I quit on and off. This last expansion was garbage and they need Legion to be good, they really do.

But with how easy it is to get hype and funding for a MMO nowadays, there's no reason WoW should be the best MMORPG out right now. That is extremely sad for all other developers, seriously.

I just wanted to say that. Stop trying to make quick money and releasing garbage games, and make something GOOD. Also, stop supporting garbage games. Okay the rant's over.

>.>
When all is said and done, more is always said than done.
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  • amikobamikob Member UncommonPosts: 29
    100% agree
  • DarLorkarDarLorkar Member UncommonPosts: 1,082
    If you would say most popular, then maybe i would agree. 

    I might even agree that a lot would say yes, it is the best to them. 

    Still i do not like these broad statements of fact like they are for everyone.

    Best...hardest...most fun...all are up for interpretation and personal opinion.

    Just say it is the best to YOU.. then we will agree> >:)  
  • OhhPaigeyOhhPaigey Member RarePosts: 1,517
    Well I'd say WoW is the hardest MMORPG out right now as well. And there wasn't even competition last expansion.
    When all is said and done, more is always said than done.
  • Charlie.CheswickCharlie.Cheswick Member UncommonPosts: 469
    I'll take a LotRO Hobbit over anything WoW has.

    But yea - game gods, stop spawning punk ass games.
    -Chuckles
  • OhhPaigeyOhhPaigey Member RarePosts: 1,517
    edited September 2015
    DMKano said:
    OhhPaigey said:
    This is a game I quit on and off. This last expansion was garbage and they need Legion to be good, they really do.

    But with how easy it is to get hype and funding for a MMO nowadays, there's no reason WoW should be the best MMORPG out right now. That is extremely sad for all other developers, seriously.

    I just wanted to say that. Stop trying to make quick money and releasing garbage games, and make something GOOD. Also, stop supporting garbage games. Okay the rant's over.

    >.>

    "How easy it is to get hype and funding"??? Umm what?

    WoW is best acording to what criteria exactly?

    There is no reason why WoW should be the best because it's not the best - certainly not for me.

    Destiny has more active players than WoW (no I don't play Destiny either).

    League of Legends has more players than most games combined - so it's the  best game on earth?

    Silly way of proclaiming best


    "How easy it is to get hype and funding"??? Umm what -- Uh, yeah, crowdfunding? Have you been online since 2011? Or are you just a troll.

    WoW is best acording to what criteria exactly -- By a lot of criterias, the biggest one being longevitity, stability of playerbase, and keeping people hooked and coming back. While making millions of dollars profit.

    There is no reason why WoW should be the best because it's not the best - certainly not for me -- K?

    Destiny has more active players than WoW (no I don't play Destiny either) -- K? That's a whole different model of revenue, a fairly brand new game, that's B2P, on consoles, and had a $500+ million dollar budget. WoW is 10+ years old, on PC, subscription based, and had a $63 million dollar budget, 14 years ago. Rofl. Great comparision.

    League of Legends has more players than most games combined - so it's the  best game on earth? -- Different revenue model, it's F2P, not even the same genre.

    Silly way of proclaiming best -- I hope you were summarizing your post and not mine rofl. Yes, yours was extremely silly and pointless.
    When all is said and done, more is always said than done.
  • KopogeroKopogero Member UncommonPosts: 1,685
    edited September 2015

    Love you too Paigey <3! Yes, I agree WOW is still the #1 released MMO today, which is why also 44% of this community choose to purchase it on launch, 16% were undecided. Sadly, I'm not getting the same value I used to for the $ I'm paying for it. The PvP was the biggest dissapointment, which is an essential side feature for us the hardcore players. The raids last around 3 hours for 2-3 days through the week and I can't have a PvP season lasting for half of the expansion, which is 7 months now.

    The lack of participants ia also truly hurting the PvP in general. Finally, the 20 man fixed option for mythic raids was the nail in the coffin. Dealing with 9 others individuals every night was already a hassle, but 19 I don't think so. This is even worse for healing, got 19 healing bars blocking my screen further now and I'm only making 5% diffence where I used to make 10% for clearing content.

    I'm not playing anything for the time being. Just recently stopped playing the super casual Marvel Heroes Online and I rarely play my other sandbox private server game. Thx god for other hobbies and awesome friends.

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  • BraindomeBraindome Member UncommonPosts: 959
  • gearchin13gearchin13 Member UncommonPosts: 44
    it has, its player-base and those still willing to put up with the way they do content releases, but its nowhere near the "best". its all a subjective matter when it comes to which Mmo is the best, yes it still has 5.6 mil(for them it is the best), but still a matter of perspective and how its "perceived" to be the best. I know, people will bring up numbers and whatnot, but for many of us the Wow ship has sailed.
  • zaberfangxzaberfangx Member UncommonPosts: 1,796
    The best mmo is the beholder in who playing it, wow still have most people played as a sub game to this date of time. But is not the best as people enjoy other mmo much more then wow. Pretty much what I'm saying noting is the best if people enjoy playing that mmo is best for them not for the next guy or girl that want to give it a try and didn't find it in there taste.
  • BladestromBladestrom Member UncommonPosts: 5,001
    wow is no 1 on subs only thanks to a very loyal player base who are attached to the routine and their achievment history. content is dated, content release rate is the worst in the industry, their designers have no idea what their vision is, pvp is a mess, talent trees are a mess, future is a mess (same old same old and resource mgmt mini games and confirmation that blizzard have ruled out any form of major development. Stagnant personified.

    Compare to gw2, eso, wildstar to pick a few all of which have continued to grow and offer game players much fresher experiences.

    rpg/mmorg history: Dun Darach>Bloodwych>Bards Tale 1-3>Eye of the beholder > Might and Magic 2,3,5 > FFVII> Baldur's Gate 1, 2 > Planescape Torment >Morrowind > WOW > oblivion > LOTR > Guild Wars (1900hrs elementalist) Vanguard. > GW2(1000 elementalist), Wildstar

    Now playing GW2, AOW 3, ESO, LOTR, Elite D

  • ScorchienScorchien Member LegendaryPosts: 8,914
    DMKano said:
    OhhPaigey said:
    This is a game I quit on and off. This last expansion was garbage and they need Legion to be good, they really do.

    But with how easy it is to get hype and funding for a MMO nowadays, there's no reason WoW should be the best MMORPG out right now. That is extremely sad for all other developers, seriously.

    I just wanted to say that. Stop trying to make quick money and releasing garbage games, and make something GOOD. Also, stop supporting garbage games. Okay the rant's over.

    >.>

    "How easy it is to get hype and funding"??? Umm what?

    WoW is best acording to what criteria exactly?

    There is no reason why WoW should be the best because it's not the best - certainly not for me.

    Destiny has more active players than WoW (no I don't play Destiny either).

    League of Legends has more players than most games combined - so it's the  best game on earth?

    Silly way of proclaiming best


        Destiny Does not have more Active users than Wow , it has 9.5 mill registered users which means lil, the concurrent players is what matters and it cant even beat out CoD let alone Wow ...registered users dont mean alot .. Neo-pets has more than most every game on the list here .. Does it matter ...

      The most LoL  concurrently ever had is 5 mill , which games like this should have more concurrent as they are F2P ..

      I would be willing to bet that Wow has more Registered users over the years than either LoL or Destiny ..

      Wow has near 100million registered users since 2004 ..
  • HighestHandHighestHand Member UncommonPosts: 108
    A lot of people like WOW for its lore and popularity. The gameplay can be found in a lot of MMOs nowadays. 

    I too was suckered into WOW because I loved playing WC3 as a kid and then played WOW. But since then, I branched out and found that whatever is offered in WOW is offered for free in other games. 

    In terms of lore, it is brilliant. WOW has great story lines even before it was created (WC franchise) and they just expanded it on it. Now whoever played WC as a kid can delve into the WOW story and experience it all over again, except even more in depth. 

    In terms of popularity, it is unbelievable. I am not sure how Blizzard advertises WOW but they do a phenomenal job. I mean, people who don't play MMOs have heard of it. People who seldom game has heard of it. That is how popular WOW is and I commend Blizzard for that. 

    In all other terms, other games can top it like Lineage. It is one of the most played game on the eastern hemisphere and it is longer lived than even WOW as it started in 1999. Then you have some games even more popular than Lineage (Asian names I don't remember them).  

    Don't get me wrong, WOW is a great game. It is very complete and it has a rich back story, and can be considered a candidate for the best, but it definitely isn't the absolute best now that it is challenged by GW2, FF and a lot more. 

  • mistressmistmistressmist Member UncommonPosts: 8
    edited September 2015
    OhhPaigey said:
    Well I'd say WoW is the hardest MMORPG out right now as well. And there wasn't even competition last expansion.
    I lol'd at this one

  • NukeGamerNukeGamer Member, AMA Guest UncommonPosts: 309
    There was a report I think even on this site that they have been working on Legion for three years already and it's slated to be their biggest xpac yet.  They didn't say it directly but it almost sounded like at some point during WoD they said stop working on WoD and focus on Legion.  

    Noe I enjoyed WoD until the ships (garrisons 2.0) came out so if Legion will be bigger and better that is a good thing. 
  • makasouleater69makasouleater69 Member UncommonPosts: 1,096
    OhhPaigey said:
    Well I'd say WoW is the hardest MMORPG out right now as well. And there wasn't even competition last expansion.
    If you think WoW is hard, I don't know what to say. It is the most simplest,and easy  by design no less, mmo ever devised. Must be you haven't played to many MMOs, if that was your conclusion.  
  • NukeGamerNukeGamer Member, AMA Guest UncommonPosts: 309

    Scorchien said:
    DMKano said:
    OhhPaigey said:
    This is a game I quit on and off. This last expansion was garbage and they need Legion to be good, they really do.

    But with how easy it is to get hype and funding for a MMO nowadays, there's no reason WoW should be the best MMORPG out right now. That is extremely sad for all other developers, seriously.

    I just wanted to say that. Stop trying to make quick money and releasing garbage games, and make something GOOD. Also, stop supporting garbage games. Okay the rant's over.

    >.>

    "How easy it is to get hype and funding"??? Umm what?

    WoW is best acording to what criteria exactly?

    There is no reason why WoW should be the best because it's not the best - certainly not for me.

    Destiny has more active players than WoW (no I don't play Destiny either).

    League of Legends has more players than most games combined - so it's the  best game on earth?

    Silly way of proclaiming best


        Destiny Does not have more Active users than Wow , it has 9.5 mill registered users which means lil, the concurrent players is what matters and it cant even beat out CoD let alone Wow ...registered users dont mean alot .. Neo-pets has more than most every game on the list here .. Does it matter ...

      The most LoL  concurrently ever had is 5 mill , which games like this should have more concurrent as they are F2P ..

      I would be willing to bet that Wow has more Registered users over the years than either LoL or Destiny ..

      Wow has near 100million registered users since 2004 ..
    Not exactly sure where you get your info on Destiny but it's a little off...

    http://gamerant.com/destiny-call-of-duty-advanced-warfare-sales-psn/

    As of March 2015 Destiny had 20 million registered users....it's safe to say they added a few since then.  

    http://www.polygon.com/2015/5/6/8561715/destiny-registered-players-increases-to-20m-while-average-play-time
  • mistressmistmistressmist Member UncommonPosts: 8
    I dont know if she is trolling with that comment that WoW is the hardest or somehow really believes it. My 5 yr old nephew was raiding in WoW its first year of release
  • makasouleater69makasouleater69 Member UncommonPosts: 1,096

    OhhPaigey said:
    This is a game I quit on and off. This last expansion was garbage and they need Legion to be good, they really do.

    But with how easy it is to get hype and funding for a MMO nowadays, there's no reason WoW should be the best MMORPG out right now. That is extremely sad for all other developers, seriously.

    I just wanted to say that. Stop trying to make quick money and releasing garbage games, and make something GOOD. Also, stop supporting garbage games. Okay the rant's over.

    >.>
    It is the same concept, as why the worthless I phone, and Mac book are considered good, when they are seriously out dated, and useless garbage compared to a PC, and Android phone.  100 percent the same, Wow is worthless garbage, but some how, the people convinced every one it was the best thing on earth. Even though it had bad graphics, copied game design, nothing to really make it any different from what was out there. 

    Just like a i phone 6 is a seriously weak phone compared to my 100 dollar lg g3, with a 2k screen, better processor, and more space. But right now some one just bought a 1000 dollar I phone. Or the worst of the offenders Beat head phones, which are literally made out of garbage, and the worst head phones on the market, but some how sell for 150 bucks, and keep on selling. People are lemmings, wow is the cliff. 
  • MukeMuke Member RarePosts: 2,614
    OhhPaigey said:
    Well I'd say WoW is the hardest MMORPG out right now as well.
    This made me spill my beer on the screens L O L.

    "going into arguments with idiots is a lost cause, it requires you to stoop down to their level and you can't win"

  • NukeGamerNukeGamer Member, AMA Guest UncommonPosts: 309
    I dont know if she is trolling with that comment that WoW is the hardest or somehow really believes it. My 5 yr old nephew was raiding in WoW its first year of release
    And you are calling out someone else for trolling?  
  • makasouleater69makasouleater69 Member UncommonPosts: 1,096
    Muke said:
    OhhPaigey said:
    Well I'd say WoW is the hardest MMORPG out right now as well.
    This made me spill my beer on the screens L O L.
    hahahahahahah
  • Leon1eLeon1e Member UncommonPosts: 791
    edited September 2015
    100% outright disagree. WoW has nothing to spark even a tiny bit of interest in me. The combat is such a boring stalemate, idk what you guys enjoy in this game, safe for playing with old buddies that are still there. Quest/Raid grind is 90s ... 

    Also the game gets extremely easy with a healer buddy around. Idk what's so hard about it. Please enlighten me. I honestly find WildStar more fun. And WildStar is by far not the best MMO. 

    Is it the lore? But how could it be? In a game with millions of quests ... how do you keep track of the lore outside the "go kill 20 rats and come back" ? TESO clearly nails the lore down. 

    What's so good about WoW? Rose-tinted glasses perhaps?
  • ScorchienScorchien Member LegendaryPosts: 8,914
    NukeGamer said:

    Scorchien said:
    DMKano said:
    OhhPaigey said:
    This is a game I quit on and off. This last expansion was garbage and they need Legion to be good, they really do.

    But with how easy it is to get hype and funding for a MMO nowadays, there's no reason WoW should be the best MMORPG out right now. That is extremely sad for all other developers, seriously.

    I just wanted to say that. Stop trying to make quick money and releasing garbage games, and make something GOOD. Also, stop supporting garbage games. Okay the rant's over.

    >.>

    "How easy it is to get hype and funding"??? Umm what?

    WoW is best acording to what criteria exactly?

    There is no reason why WoW should be the best because it's not the best - certainly not for me.

    Destiny has more active players than WoW (no I don't play Destiny either).

    League of Legends has more players than most games combined - so it's the  best game on earth?

    Silly way of proclaiming best


        Destiny Does not have more Active users than Wow , it has 9.5 mill registered users which means lil, the concurrent players is what matters and it cant even beat out CoD let alone Wow ...registered users dont mean alot .. Neo-pets has more than most every game on the list here .. Does it matter ...

      The most LoL  concurrently ever had is 5 mill , which games like this should have more concurrent as they are F2P ..

      I would be willing to bet that Wow has more Registered users over the years than either LoL or Destiny ..

      Wow has near 100million registered users since 2004 ..
    Not exactly sure where you get your info on Destiny but it's a little off...

    http://gamerant.com/destiny-call-of-duty-advanced-warfare-sales-psn/

    As of March 2015 Destiny had 20 million registered users....it's safe to say they added a few since then.  

    http://www.polygon.com/2015/5/6/8561715/destiny-registered-players-increases-to-20m-while-average-play-time
      ahh thx for the correction , but the point is registereed users mean nothing .... especially comparing f2p ,b2p games to P2P .. holds no water at all
  • Azaron_NightbladeAzaron_Nightblade Member EpicPosts: 4,829
    edited September 2015
    OhhPaigey said:
    Well I'd say WoW is the hardest MMORPG out right now as well. And there wasn't even competition last expansion.
    If you think WoW is hard, I don't know what to say. It is the most simplest,and easy  by design no less, mmo ever devised. Must be you haven't played to many MMOs, if that was your conclusion.  
    I imagine she's talking about doing the raids on the highest difficulty, and not just running around and leveling. (Which anyone can do, on any MMO these days)

    I wouldn't know since I've stopped raiding for the last couple of years now, but it's a popular opinion that WoW's still got the best (hardest) ones in that regard.

    My SWTOR referral link for those wanting to give the game a try. (Newbies get a welcome package while returning players get a few account upgrades to help with their preferred status.)

    https://www.ashesofcreation.com/ref/Callaron/

  • NukeGamerNukeGamer Member, AMA Guest UncommonPosts: 309

    OhhPaigey said:
    This is a game I quit on and off. This last expansion was garbage and they need Legion to be good, they really do.

    But with how easy it is to get hype and funding for a MMO nowadays, there's no reason WoW should be the best MMORPG out right now. That is extremely sad for all other developers, seriously.

    I just wanted to say that. Stop trying to make quick money and releasing garbage games, and make something GOOD. Also, stop supporting garbage games. Okay the rant's over.

    >.>
    It is the same concept, as why the worthless I phone, and Mac book are considered good, when they are seriously out dated, and useless garbage compared to a PC, and Android phone.  100 percent the same, Wow is worthless garbage, but some how, the people convinced every one it was the best thing on earth. Even though it had bad graphics, copied game design, nothing to really make it any different from what was out there. 

    Just like a i phone 6 is a seriously weak phone compared to my 100 dollar lg g3, with a 2k screen, better processor, and more space. But right now some one just bought a 1000 dollar I phone. Or the worst of the offenders Beat head phones, which are literally made out of garbage, and the worst head phones on the market, but some how sell for 150 bucks, and keep on selling. People are lemmings, wow is the cliff. 
    You really need to learn facts vs opinions.  As for the iPhone vs lg 3 most call it a tie some say iPhone some say lg3.  This comes down to preference (opinion). 
    http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/review/high-end-smartphones/iphone-6-plus-vs-lg-g3-comparison-review-3586914/

    Wow is garbage?  If WoW were garbage just like the iPhone you wouldn't be here complaining about it.  

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