Some games survive merely on hacking.This game had a ton of bots and hacking.
I was extremely disappointed in NCSOFT as well so i won't be going back to any of their games.
At the time the top 3 hacked games were Silkroad,Counterstrike and Lineage/l2 probably my FFXI fell in next and i quit that as well but when they cleaned it up i went back.NCSOFT on the other hand never cleaned it up and never even gave a dam,i tried for weeks sending them in botters and they would respond with a thanks but never really even looked or did a single thing.
BTW back then i did a massive amount of researching into NCSOFT.botters and RMT and their anto hack system and what i found did not look good,i was quite certain they had inside employees in on the rmt action and why nothing was ever done about it.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
Somewhat. Not sure what's going stronger, though... the RMT, or the cash shop.
Rampant botting/rmt has always plagued this game, and NCSoft has never given a crap about it enough to do anything, beyond a token ban wave once in a blue moon. It got to the point where the adena sellers pretty much controlled the economy, and players actually became dependent on them. I remember players getting pissed when NC did ban them, because now people had to farm their own mats, and prices skyrocketed.
Still, all that aside, in its prime (pre-GoD/F2P, especially during the Chaotic Chronicles) this game was amazing. I've not personally played a MMO that had PvP and PvE so perfectly blended together as L2 during that time. Any time someone says PvE and PvP can't co-exist outside of Arena type content, I point to classic L2 as an example that not only can they co-exist in an open-world setting, but they can actually support and play off each other seamlessly. As bad as they got it with the botting/rmt, they nailed it with the PvP/PvE aspect, IMO. I've never seen another MMO do it as well.
Of course, it helps that the player base back then had something going on above the brain-stem and would differentiate between what was actually PvP, and what was just random ganking/harassing other players. For all the rivalries, and smack-talk, and despite the few exceptions, there was actually a sense of good-natured sportsmanship beneath it all.
They *hated* newbie gankers/griefers, because they were lame, added nothing to the game, and drove away potential long-time players, which is really what a good PvP MMO needs to thrive. So, they didn't just sit back and say "It's a PvP MMO lulul. Suck less!" They actually dealt with the gankers/griefers, so new players could actually put down roots and get to experience the game.
This is in contrast to any other PvP MMO I've tried since, where is inevitably ruined by a player-base filled with people whose thinking doesn't evolve past "open PvP = kill everything that moves, especially if they're a lot weaker than you, and then gloat as though you just did something awesome."
People who only ever saw L2 as "an awful grind" never got to experience what really made the game shine. When you dug into the game, the "grind" to level cap didn't matter, because what happened along the way is what the game was all about... the Clan Wars, the alliances, the personal friendships, the competition over rare mobs/resources, the player politics, the sense of team spirit and readiness to come to a clan/ally-mate's aid at a moment' notice, etc.
I'm 100% sincere when I say I seriously miss those days.
Yea, really is sad...I didn't play L2 till later and it was even fun then until I realized how the botting was...literally the programs are better than the players...insane that any company would allow this.
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At the time the top 3 hacked games were Silkroad,Counterstrike and Lineage/l2 probably my FFXI fell in next and i quit that as well but when they cleaned it up i went back.NCSOFT on the other hand never cleaned it up and never even gave a dam,i tried for weeks sending them in botters and they would respond with a thanks but never really even looked or did a single thing.
BTW back then i did a massive amount of researching into NCSOFT.botters and RMT and their anto hack system and what i found did not look good,i was quite certain they had inside employees in on the rmt action and why nothing was ever done about it.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
Somewhat. Not sure what's going stronger, though... the RMT, or the cash shop.
Rampant botting/rmt has always plagued this game, and NCSoft has never given a crap about it enough to do anything, beyond a token ban wave once in a blue moon. It got to the point where the adena sellers pretty much controlled the economy, and players actually became dependent on them. I remember players getting pissed when NC did ban them, because now people had to farm their own mats, and prices skyrocketed.
Still, all that aside, in its prime (pre-GoD/F2P, especially during the Chaotic Chronicles) this game was amazing. I've not personally played a MMO that had PvP and PvE so perfectly blended together as L2 during that time. Any time someone says PvE and PvP can't co-exist outside of Arena type content, I point to classic L2 as an example that not only can they co-exist in an open-world setting, but they can actually support and play off each other seamlessly. As bad as they got it with the botting/rmt, they nailed it with the PvP/PvE aspect, IMO. I've never seen another MMO do it as well.
Of course, it helps that the player base back then had something going on above the brain-stem and would differentiate between what was actually PvP, and what was just random ganking/harassing other players. For all the rivalries, and smack-talk, and despite the few exceptions, there was actually a sense of good-natured sportsmanship beneath it all.
They *hated* newbie gankers/griefers, because they were lame, added nothing to the game, and drove away potential long-time players, which is really what a good PvP MMO needs to thrive. So, they didn't just sit back and say "It's a PvP MMO lulul. Suck less!" They actually dealt with the gankers/griefers, so new players could actually put down roots and get to experience the game.
This is in contrast to any other PvP MMO I've tried since, where is inevitably ruined by a player-base filled with people whose thinking doesn't evolve past "open PvP = kill everything that moves, especially if they're a lot weaker than you, and then gloat as though you just did something awesome."
People who only ever saw L2 as "an awful grind" never got to experience what really made the game shine. When you dug into the game, the "grind" to level cap didn't matter, because what happened along the way is what the game was all about... the Clan Wars, the alliances, the personal friendships, the competition over rare mobs/resources, the player politics, the sense of team spirit and readiness to come to a clan/ally-mate's aid at a moment' notice, etc.
I'm 100% sincere when I say I seriously miss those days.
L2 used to be a great game. Once upon a time.
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