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MMO = the new corporate spyware

sabo630sabo630 Member UncommonPosts: 5
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The worst thing about all these new mmo games, most of the free to play ones for sure, are glorified spyware.

Take for instance ESO.  Any of you who play that actually read the terms of service?  Well in that they clearly tell you they will be checking your browser history, and such.  Why does an online game, that isnt even in a browser, going to check your online histroy?! 

I was playing planet side 2 a bit, uninstalled the game, and then found it actually left a program on my cpu even after it was fully removed!

Nothing is free.
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  • khanstructkhanstruct Member UncommonPosts: 756
    sabo630 said:
    The worst thing about all these new mmo games, most of the free to play ones for sure, are glorified spyware.

    Take for instance ESO.  Any of you who play that actually read the terms of service?  Well in that they clearly tell you they will be checking your browser history, and such.  Why does an online game, that isnt even in a browser, going to check your online histroy?! 

    I was playing planet side 2 a bit, uninstalled the game, and then found it actually left a program on my cpu even after it was fully removed!

    Nothing is free.


  • VrikaVrika Member LegendaryPosts: 7,973
    sabo630 said:
    Take for instance ESO.  Any of you who play that actually read the terms of service?  Well in that they clearly tell you they will be checking your browser history, and such.  Why does an online game, that isnt even in a browser, going to check your online histroy?! 
    Source for this, please. I don't think ESO terms of service has anything about reading your browser history.
     
  • moosecatlolmoosecatlol Member RarePosts: 1,531
    Giving B-rate devs quite a bit of credit.
  • mgilbrtsnmgilbrtsn Member EpicPosts: 3,430
    Best to stay off the internet.  MMOs, google, gov't, amazon, .......  They all track you in one way or another.  It's the way of the world.

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  • KothosesKothoses Member UncommonPosts: 931
    Quick some one post this on FACEBOOK!  The others, THEY HAVE TO KNOW.....
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975
    mgilbrtsn said:
    Best to stay off the internet.  MMOs, google, gov't, amazon, .......  They all track you in one way or another.  It's the way of the world.
    Yep OP, best you consider going "off the grid", or the black helicopters will soon find you.

    BTW, the best way to hide, is to hide in plain sight.

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  • LobotomistLobotomist Member EpicPosts: 5,980
    Imagine than what things that dont have Terms Of Service do on your PC. And I can guarantee you have at least 3 such programs installed and working right now



  • CrazKanukCrazKanuk Member EpicPosts: 6,130
    mgilbrtsn said:
    Best to stay off the internet.  MMOs, google, gov't, amazon, .......  They all track you in one way or another.  It's the way of the world.

    You're funny. Google has a "Don't Be Evil" manifesto, so they are definitely not tracking anything I do online ;)

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  • TheocritusTheocritus Member LegendaryPosts: 9,976
    Alot of the free mobile games are even worse
  • alkarionlogalkarionlog Member EpicPosts: 3,584
    sabo630 said:
    The worst thing about all these new mmo games, most of the free to play ones for sure, are glorified spyware.

    Take for instance ESO.  Any of you who play that actually read the terms of service?  Well in that they clearly tell you they will be checking your browser history, and such.  Why does an online game, that isnt even in a browser, going to check your online histroy?! 

    I was playing planet side 2 a bit, uninstalled the game, and then found it actually left a program on my cpu even after it was fully removed!

    Nothing is free.
    they was doing this way before, WoW have it, games before it also in some degree have it, you are kinda 20 years late you know
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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    The truth is out there!
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  • stayontargetstayontarget Member RarePosts: 6,519
    Supervisor:  So what is he doing!

    Worker:  He's playing our game sir.

    Supervisor:  Good, our spyware is working.

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  • YanocchiYanocchi Member UncommonPosts: 677
    Remember, remember!
    The fifth of November,
    The MMO spyware and bots;

    I know of no reason
    Why the free-to-play treason
    Should ever be forgot!

    :p

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  • LoktofeitLoktofeit Member RarePosts: 14,247
    DMKano said:
    The line about leaving a program on "cpu" made me chuckle.


    It happens. I had it happen once and even when I thought I had gotten it out, it was still there. Brought it to a tech and hefound that it went ot the topand lodged itself in that paste between the CPU and the heat sink. He cleaned the virus off the cpu and then put i t back with a fan instead of a heat sink so that it a virus leaves through the top again, instead of getting stuck and staying, it gets chopped up by the fan.


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  • WarlyxWarlyx Member EpicPosts: 3,367
    ZeniMax and its third party service providers may collect non-personal information such as demographic and/or geographic information (gender, age, or information about your computer (capabilities, game data processing, browser or browser history, platform, game system, mobile device, connection, and so on.

    but all the mmorpgs do that Gw2 , WoW , ect , google/youtube/ do it too , all that adds about mmorpgs u see? is not coincidence if u browse about traveling to some place , u will start noticing ads about "cheap" travels to that place....same goes for everything that isnt 18+

    welcome to internet
  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Member LegendaryPosts: 9,004
    edited November 2015
    STO's ARC launcher has in the legal information section that they can install third party tracking software and take no responsibility for what it does in your pc.  There was a major thread about this in the forums once.  People don't read all that stuff, and the buying and selling of information is big business.  People want to know what you do to make it easier to sell you stuff.  MMO's and any internet business can make a lot of extra money just adding third party software to track your habits.

    If you have time google eulas and the stuff some companies put in them. Or use an analyzer to view questionable inclusions.


    eula analyzers:
    http://www.spywareguide.com/analyze/  

    https://www.brightfort.com/eulalyzer.html


    And this from Battlenet's EULA

    Data Mining: Use third-party software that intercepts, collects, reads, or "mines" information generated or stored by the Battle.net Client or the Game(s); provided, however, that Blizzard may, at its sole and absolute discretion, allow the use of certain third-party user interfaces;

    http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/legal/eula.html


    So basically data mining is a standard practice for most internet businesses including gaming.

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  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332
    Kothoses said:
    Quick some one post this on FACEBOOK!  The others, THEY HAVE TO KNOW.....
    Sorry but i am too smart to be hanging around garbage like FB,i deleted that account as soon as i saw what it was all about.Then of course until law stepped in you were not even allowed to delete your own account,tat right there should have sent red flags up everywhere.

    Stay far far away from Facebook errr i mean FB ...I.


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  • VrikaVrika Member LegendaryPosts: 7,973
    edited November 2015
    And this from Battlenet's EULA 

    Data Mining: Use third-party software that intercepts, collects, reads, or "mines" information generated or stored by the Battle.net Client or the Game(s); provided, however, that Blizzard may, at its sole and absolute discretion, allow the use of certain third-party user interfaces;

    http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/legal/eula.html


    So basically data mining is a standard practice for most internet businesses including gaming.
    False. That's the part of license that forbids you from using third-party software to data mine Blizzard's software:

    "... You agree that you will not, in whole or in part or under any circumstances, do the following...

    iv. Data Mining: Use third-party software that intercepts, collects, reads, or "mines" information generated or stored by the Battle.net Client or the Game(s)..."
    Post edited by Vrika on
     
  • eye_meye_m Member UncommonPosts: 3,317

    I wonder to what nefarious purpose someone could achieve by knowing that I browsed this website?  Maybe, when I implement my plan to take over the world they will secretly inject a hypnotoad video into the content here, forcing me to forget my objectives and start singing a song about how "Everything is awesome" 

    Shenanigans!

    All of my posts are either intelligent, thought provoking, funny, satirical, sarcastic or intentionally disrespectful. Take your pick.

    I get banned in the forums for games I love, so lets see if I do better in the forums for games I hate.

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  • RedAlert539RedAlert539 Member UncommonPosts: 115
    edited November 2015
    Every Android app you install in your smartphone/tablet tracks your personal data/history yet everyone i know and their mothers have FB, Twitter, Viber and Instagram installed on theirs. Trust me, your personal history and everything you've done op is already out there. ESO won't be your your demise.
  • rojoArcueidrojoArcueid Member EpicPosts: 10,722
    Wizardry said:
    Kothoses said:
    Quick some one post this on FACEBOOK!  The others, THEY HAVE TO KNOW.....
    Sorry but i am too smart to be hanging around garbage like FB,i deleted that account as soon as i saw what it was all about.Then of course until law stepped in you were not even allowed to delete your own account,tat right there should have sent red flags up everywhere.

    Stay far far away from Facebook errr i mean FB ...I.


    you deleted your facebook account yet they are still selling your information over and over since they already have it. Mind as well keep using it and get the moneys worth lol




  • anemoanemo Member RarePosts: 1,903
    CrazKanuk said:
    mgilbrtsn said:
    Best to stay off the internet.  MMOs, google, gov't, amazon, .......  They all track you in one way or another.  It's the way of the world.

    You're funny. Google has a "Don't Be Evil" manifesto, so they are definitely not tracking anything I do online ;)

    That was removed after they reformed under "Alphabet"

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  • KiyorisKiyoris Member RarePosts: 2,130
    Google = Spyware. Data collection is how Google makes money.
  • sludgebeardsludgebeard Member RarePosts: 788
    I completely agree, now all you have to do is never go on any of these sites or programs,

    Google, Gmail, Facebook, AVG, Battle.net, Steam, MMORPG.com, Amazon, Any university website, any website that features ads or articles of any kind, flash videos, youtube, WWE.com, Dont play any MMO's, any online games, in fact you know what just disconnect your computer from the internet, pull out your pocket pickachu and live the life god intended for you.
  • DeathofsageDeathofsage Member UncommonPosts: 1,102
    Did you guys ever hear about MS using IE to copy Google's search results?


    http://www.wired.com/2011/02/bing-copies-google/

    Good times.

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