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World of Warcraft: Legion On or Before September 21, 2016 + Edition Pricing

SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129
edited November 2015 in News & Features Discussion
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MMO-Champion is reporting that the World of Warcraft Legion expansion is due out on or before September 21, 2016. In addition, the standard edition of Legion will run $50 with the digital collector's edition coming in at $70 with a level 100 boost included and a week's early access to the new Demon Hunter class.

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  • DeserttFoxxDeserttFoxx Member UncommonPosts: 2,402
    Really wish they would just upgrade the engine already and the graphics, make it action based, at this point they are just getting their bi yearly milk on.

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  • zaberfangxzaberfangx Member UncommonPosts: 1,796
    edited November 2015
    Really wish they would just upgrade the engine already and the graphics, make it action based, at this point they are just getting their bi yearly milk on.
    Graphics upgrade to big can kill off most there sub base pretty much alot of them are running on laptops or old pc. For Action base mmo can end up a hit and miss, as action base mmo can age faster then target mmo if it done right in both side. But wow animations starting to show it's age.


    But I'm not saying your wrong any part in what you want, there abit amount people out there want the same thing you want.
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  • XingbairongXingbairong Member RarePosts: 927
    edited November 2015

    Seriously this would increase the lose of subscribers even more...

    I mean what's there to do in the moment in the game? There is 1 upcoming PvP season and after that? I mean even the PvP season isn't enough to keep people cause let's face it... PvP in WoD is kinda shit. For a first time in 11 years since I've been playing the game I actually feel like I might stop playing it. Waiting almost a whole year without any content is just ridiculous at best.

    I sincerely hope that the game would come at worst April/May maybe even early June cause otherwise I can definitely see WoW finally starting to die slowly...

    It's not because there is that much MMORPG's out there that can compete, but because more and more people start to prefer MOBA's and FPS games like Overwatch over MMORPG's simply because there aren't any "awesome" MMORPG's out there.

  • JeroKaneJeroKane Member EpicPosts: 7,096
    edited November 2015
    Blizzard has always been utterly lazy, when it comes maintaining a subscription based MMO. Delivering absolute minimum possible to justify a monthly subscription fee!

    We can say a lot about the old SOE, but at least they took monthly subscription MMO´s seriously and delivered regular content updates to keep people busy.
    Next to that they were second to none when it came to seasonal content, with their always being some kind of event live during the whole year in EverQuest 2 for example. The excellent housing system in EQ2 also kept people busy.

    WoW has none of this. They release an expansion about once every two years, with often just a single big content update about 6 months after that, to complete the expansion content and that´s it.
    And this laziness, pure cash grabbing is starting to show to more and more disgruntled WoW players! More and more are getting fed up and leave the game and Blizzard has nothing to show for it to stop this exodus of quiting subscribers.

    And with the recent news of them buying King ( a free 2 play mobile crap money grabbing studio ), just shows where their future priorities lie.

    I myself I am reaching a point in time, where I seriously consider just uninstalling the battle.net client (to free up diskspace) and be done with Blizzard, as they are out of touch and lost their spark long ago.
  • MukeMuke Member RarePosts: 2,614
    JeroKane said:
    Blizzard has always been utterly lazy, when it comes maintaining a subscription based MMO. Delivering absolute minimum possible to justify a monthly subscription fee!

    We can say a lot about the old SOE, but at least they took monthly subscription MMO´s seriously and delivered regular content updates to keep people busy.
    Next to that they were second to none when it came to seasonal content, with their always being some kind of event live during the whole year in EverQuest 2 for example. The excellent housing system in EQ2 also kept people busy.
    Too bad you only take the EQ2 service into your evaluation of SOE, and not the SWG branch as well.

    Because where EQ2 service was outstanding, the SWG one was horrific bad at maintaining a game, releasing new content, fixing old content, and I am not even touching the customer treatment here.

    Even Blizzard hasnt managed to bleed 99% of your playerbase in 1 week.
    That record is in solid hands of old SOE and their dictator Smedley.

    "going into arguments with idiots is a lost cause, it requires you to stoop down to their level and you can't win"

  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441
    Really wish they would just upgrade the engine already and the graphics, make it action based, at this point they are just getting their bi yearly milk on.
    Upgrading the main mechanics to action based would be a huge misstake. Dont upset your current subscribers like that. Now, if they released an action based sequel that would be another matter.
  • JeroKaneJeroKane Member EpicPosts: 7,096
    Muke said:
    JeroKane said:
    Blizzard has always been utterly lazy, when it comes maintaining a subscription based MMO. Delivering absolute minimum possible to justify a monthly subscription fee!

    We can say a lot about the old SOE, but at least they took monthly subscription MMO´s seriously and delivered regular content updates to keep people busy.
    Next to that they were second to none when it came to seasonal content, with their always being some kind of event live during the whole year in EverQuest 2 for example. The excellent housing system in EQ2 also kept people busy.
    Too bad you only take the EQ2 service into your evaluation of SOE, and not the SWG branch as well.

    Because where EQ2 service was outstanding, the SWG one was horrific bad at maintaining a game, releasing new content, fixing old content, and I am not even touching the customer treatment here.

    Even Blizzard hasnt managed to bleed 99% of your playerbase in 1 week.
    That record is in solid hands of old SOE and their dictator Smedley.
    Seriously. Still venting about the NGE of SWG? You do know it was as much the fault of Lucas Arts as it was SOE right? /shrug
  • VolgoreVolgore Member EpicPosts: 3,872
    edited November 2015
    At the moment they are deleting threads left and right on the official forums as soon as somebody questions the price tag for less content than even WoD had.
    *Edit: I see they plan to release it on or before september 21th 2016. WoD got released November 2014...so they again miss the mark of "releasing an expansion each year" by one year.

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  • PrecusorPrecusor Member UncommonPosts: 3,589
    Another long no content drought.
  • FrodoFraginsFrodoFragins Member EpicPosts: 6,050
    If true then that's ridiculous and even the biggest fanboys will have issues with it.  No wonder they are abandoning listing sub numbers.
  • Thomas2006Thomas2006 Member RarePosts: 1,152
    Is anyone really suprised by this?   I mean this has been the norm for World of Warcraft as of late..  Release an expansion every two years..  charge the full game price (more of less) for said expansion and milk the players for the next two years at $15 / month.

    Blizzard has more important things to do then provide content to WoW. I mean just look at all there new games they are releasing and then they plan to turn around and bring back all the old classics they made.

    I really think this will be the new norm for WoW. 2 year expansions without much content spent between the expansions. Your talking about a engine thats now 10+ years old. I wouldn't doubt if 100s of programmers have had there hands inside it makeing tweaks and changes. They have reached a point where you can't really graphicly update the game much more then it already has without spending a massive amount of manpower and time to do so. They can't really just increase the polys and textures of the new expansions as its going to make the older areas of the game look even worse. And to attempt to go through and make a pass on every texture + model in the game would just be suicide at this point. Kind of a dammed if you do and your dammed if you dont situation they have reached.

    I think that is there biggest issue on getting expansions out faster is that the engine has become a beast to work with and the time investment to resources is just not worth it at the end of the day. Not when you have Hearth Stone bank rolling on a small slim team with next to no real cost compared to WoW.

    But it is interesting they are going to attempt to stretch it for almost an entire year before releasing the expansion. I bet a July / August release to ride the coat tails of the movie. That gives the money a month of real play / hype time before dropping the expansion.  Makes alot more sense unless there is some other major MMO / MMO Expansion coming out in September that they want to pull people off of.
  • Righteous_RockRighteous_Rock Member RarePosts: 1,234
    Why get bitter? If you don't like it, don't buy it. To me the game justifies it's cost, it's one of the only games that does. With wow at least you know what you're getting into. All other mmorpg do not do that. With that said, I won't be purchasing legion unless it comes to Xbox one.
  • CoolitCoolit Member UncommonPosts: 661
    September ...
  • mark2123mark2123 Member UncommonPosts: 450
    So you pay for an expansion every 2 years, then what do the subs cover as Blizzard give you less than many free MMOs that also do free expacs.  Blizzard no longer derserve customers and frankly, they are laughing in the face of every subscriber.  Carry on subscribing and support the way they treat you.
  • GhabboGhabbo Member UncommonPosts: 263
    Coolit said:
    September ...
    I know right.

    Though I'll be cautious and wait for what they have to say at Blizzcon.
  • mark2123mark2123 Member UncommonPosts: 450
    It's fitting that Blizzard call it Blizzcon - I can now see where they get the name.
  • zaberfangxzaberfangx Member UncommonPosts: 1,796
    So are they still giving content until now until the xpack hits or little or no content?
  • JinxysJinxys Member UncommonPosts: 488
    Now if only i could get WoW to run on my Amiga 500 -_-
  • AlbatroesAlbatroes Member LegendaryPosts: 7,671
    edited November 2015
    Honestly September isn't that long if you factor in that they'll probably start their 6 month long beta period soon (at least that's how long WoD's beta period was I think) and then the invasion that they'll probably have some time in may or 3 months before launch. Still though, it probably wont get me to resub more than twice between now and release. But my main issue with the expansion already is that it doesn't seem like it wont even last longer than a year. The premise behind the expansion just makes it feel like WoD and Legion were originally one expansion that just got split into two in order to make more money.
  • gervaise1gervaise1 Member EpicPosts: 6,919
    edited November 2015
    Once upon a time - not that long ago either - Blizzard would release stuff "when it was ready".

    That was not the case with WoD. Shareholders were told pretty early on that WoD would release before the end of 2014. And it did. And it was buggy; in some peoples mind unfinished. Same deal with e.g. TESO; the release date was set many months out.

    And now, if accurate, we learn that Legion will launch before 21st September 2016. Another case of the release date being more crucial than whether it is ready or not.

    To me the date says end of Q3 profit target. Hopefully there internal schedule is accurate but that wasn't so with WoD, it wasn't so with flying and as for annual expansions!
  • GhavriggGhavrigg Member RarePosts: 1,308
    That is far too long to wait, but I will wait until the WoW info at Blizzcon before I react to this. They've gotta have something in the works if they plan to have us wait so long (if).
  • gervaise1gervaise1 Member EpicPosts: 6,919
    mark2123 said:
    So you pay for an expansion every 2 years, then what do the subs cover <snip>
    King.
  • fodell54fodell54 Member RarePosts: 865
    Really wish they would just upgrade the engine already and the graphics, make it action based, at this point they are just getting their bi yearly milk on.
    All of the above changes mentioned would be dumb.
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