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It seems that Korea, can pump MMOs out much easier than West

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  • nariusseldonnariusseldon Member EpicPosts: 27,775
    I think it is just the market. May be Koreans like MMOs more than western gamers. 
  • goboygogoboygo Member RarePosts: 2,141
    Supply and demand, to the West gaming is still, just playing silly old computer games.  In Korea gaming is like what the Olympics are to your average American.   Gaming to some Koreans is really who they are as an individual, its a little bit scary but true.
  • AnirethAnireth Member UncommonPosts: 940
    Everyone saying that Asian games are just copies of previous games with a different skin forgets that we got dozens of WoW clones, that everyone and his mom is doing a MOBA right now, and that when not talking about game XYZ (where every other game is suddenly the best thing that happend to mankind since sliced bread) every game is boring, and dead before release.

    So they tend to have a more sexualized style, with extremely young looking girls etc. And? In the west, guys have shoulder paddings that allow you to survive a crash with a truck, and have abs that would allow them to break steel beams with.

    There's also a lot of difference (visually) between a game like Arpiel Online, Aeria Chronicles or Tree of Savior and Black Desert or Monster Hunter, just like Wildstar and WoW are not the same as The Division or Destiny. Heck, Wildstar could be classified as eastern MMO, given that it was released BY NCSoft, by a studio owned by NCSoft for most of it's existence. And FF XIV is rather popular, despite being "full" Asian.

    And funny how nobody here mentioned the latest "fully "western game, ESO, as example how games should be. Maybe because it isn't "how games should be", either?

    Where exactly are western games (oh, and with games like Gloria Victis developed in Poland..do they even count as "western" game?) superior then?

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  • KiyorisKiyoris Member RarePosts: 2,130
    Horusra said:
    Maybe Koreans are bigger suckers for shiny crap than Westerners so their companies like to milk them more.
    Koreans thought a fork as a weapon was the greatest thing ever in Aion. They felt it was amazing.

    In the West people though it was retarded.


  • KiyorisKiyoris Member RarePosts: 2,130
    edited December 2015

    You are absolutely right however the western world spends not much less but they are spending it on mobile games and farmville not MMOs.
    Korea has a way higher smartphone addiciton rate than the West, smartphone addiction is an epidemic in Korea.





    It is so bad, many kids need spinal surgeries to correct slipped discs, from looking down at the device too much


  • nariusseldonnariusseldon Member EpicPosts: 27,775


    You are absolutely right however the western world spends not much less but they are spending it on mobile games and farmville not MMOs.
    you can't beat the convenience of mobile games.

    But doesn't MOBA, CCGs, and shooters are doing very well too in the West. 
  • NazloklessNazlokless Member UncommonPosts: 40
    that last comment the reporter made amazes me that the government should step in and offer help to those addicted, if people want to spend 8 hrs a day on a phone playing games/browsing the internet let them, there are worst addictions out there, and addiction to smartphones has little or no impact on other people, after all someone is unlikley to rob someone for access to there smart phone, although family/friends releationships would likley break down.
  • Gaming.Rocks2Gaming.Rocks2 Member UncommonPosts: 531
    Leave out crowdfunded titles what we have left in the West is The Division. Can't even compare the markets anymore. East has an mmo industry, West doesn't. 
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  • MikehaMikeha Member EpicPosts: 9,196
    Kiyoris said:
    Horusra said:
    Maybe Koreans are bigger suckers for shiny crap than Westerners so their companies like to milk them more.
    Koreans thought a fork as a weapon was the greatest thing ever in Aion. They felt it was amazing.

    In the West people though it was retarded.




    I think that is a baddass weapon. :-)
  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,483
    How many MMORPGs get made in South Korea?  How many MMORPGs get made in the United States?

    Now let's ask:  how many first person shooters get made in South Korea?  How many first person shooters get made in the United States?

    There's no rule that all cultures have to have the same genre preferences in gaming.  Developers tend to make more of the types of games that their target audience will pay for.
  • iixviiiixiixviiiix Member RarePosts: 2,256

    Quizzical said:
    How many MMORPGs get made in South Korea?  How many MMORPGs get made in the United States?

    Now let's ask:  how many first person shooters get made in South Korea?  How many first person shooters get made in the United States?

    There's no rule that all cultures have to have the same genre preferences in gaming.  Developers tend to make more of the types of games that their target audience will pay for.
    So the next king after WOW is an MMOFPS tittle ?
    As you said , i feel strange that there are too few MMOFPS . If they don't make WOW clone and make MMOFPS instead , then there are no place for WOW .
  • AlbatroesAlbatroes Member LegendaryPosts: 7,671
    edited December 2015
    Its not just limited to MMOs but games in general. The east makes games on pretty much every anime past/present/future that never see the light of day in west /rage! But also keep in mind that a lot of online activity in the east is connected to their identity numbers (social society etc) so they are pretty much monitored animals.
  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,780
    Kiyoris said:
    Horusra said:
    Maybe Koreans are bigger suckers for shiny crap than Westerners so their companies like to milk them more.
    Koreans thought a fork as a weapon was the greatest thing ever in Aion. They felt it was amazing.

    In the West people though it was retarded.


    My guess is that they appreciate "whimsy" and the absurd far more than we do. 

    I personally think it's ridiculous. but I can see why people would think it novel.
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  • AldersAlders Member RarePosts: 2,207
    Lets not discount the fact that most Korean MMO's have absolutely no PVE content other than maybe a few dungeons. There are exceptions of course but the heavy focus on PVP has a lot to do with the quick turnaround. 
  • dreamsfadedreamsfade Member UncommonPosts: 339
    This thread made me LOL@Title. Copy & Paste MMOs OP.

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  • PyndaPynda Member UncommonPosts: 856
    I'm not sure that I prefer the hyper-masculinized/hyper-feminized tastes of the western market, so much over that of the cutesy culture of the east. They both kind of suck equally in my book.

    And I'm also not so sure that "no grinding" is really a good thing. Particularly if that term is meant to be synonymous with not having long term character progression in mmorpgs.
  • ste2000ste2000 Member EpicPosts: 6,194
    Kiyoris said:
    Horusra said:
    Maybe Koreans are bigger suckers for shiny crap than Westerners so their companies like to milk them more.
    Koreans thought a fork as a weapon was the greatest thing ever in Aion. They felt it was amazing.

    In the West people though it was retarded.


    Lol where's my spaghetti

  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,780
    Vardahoth said:
    My guess is they take mmo's more seriously than we do. We are all about working factory/production jobs 100 hours a week so we can continue to pay bills. This gives us little time for games.


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  • neonakaneonaka Member UncommonPosts: 779
    Sovrath said:
    Vardahoth said:
    My guess is they take mmo's more seriously than we do. We are all about working factory/production jobs 100 hours a week so we can continue to pay bills. This gives us little time for games.


    We are?

    Strange statement indeed.  Gaming is as big as it has ever been.
    We may have been heavy into production back during... what... WWII maybe definitely WWI-WWII era.

    Pretty sure now all the west is heavy into is McDonalds and obesity not Factories and Production. LOL
  • Oldtimer72Oldtimer72 Member UncommonPosts: 9
    Easier doesn't mean it is better.
  • azarhalazarhal Member RarePosts: 1,402
    Leave out crowdfunded titles what we have left in the West is The Division. Can't even compare the markets anymore. East has an mmo industry, West doesn't. 
    The NA gaming industry is one where publishers don't want to take any risk and ask for short term ROI these days. Neither of these things fit the MMO market. Making a MMO cost a lot of money and the ROI is generally 2 years after release and not short term (cue to early access and founder's packages being created...). MMOs are also a lot more risky to develop than the next COD/Battlefield/Sport Franchise game clones.
  • Flyte27Flyte27 Member RarePosts: 4,574
    Korea may make a lot of grind games with cash shops, but they have a few funny movies on Netflix. 

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  • AxehiltAxehilt Member RarePosts: 10,504
    edited December 2015
    Kopogero said:

    It has nothing to do with how much people are spending, it's the fact they can deliver products that people are willing to spend for, while the rest cannot do the same. I recall not too long ago Star Craft 1 was also very popular esport out there in this glory days.

    Why do you feel that spend/payer vs. payer count is an important distinction? 

    Do you feel -- despite evidence to the contrary like the popular Game of War model on iOS -- that companies deliberately avoid revenue because a particular game model might have a low payer count (despite a high spend/payer)?

    Or would you agree that revenue is the primary driving force here?

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  • nariusseldonnariusseldon Member EpicPosts: 27,775
    Flyte27 said:
    Korea may make a lot of grind games with cash shops, but they have a few funny movies on Netflix. 

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    You saw that too? I also like War of Arrows.
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