Mickyknox said:
Nice take all the money from WoW subs in the past and not make WoW2 but spend the money on this crap
If they made a WoW2 I think that it would become the same problem there having with wow in the first place in general trying to get people to stay for longer point of time their mmo ideas are lacky abit.
When will they get it that you don't get into eSports with casual games..
HotS failed, it's nowhere near LoL, hell there are a couple of other less known Mobas ahead of it as well. Blizzard's expectations were to dominate the Moba market, and yet they failed miserably..
Overwatch will fail even more..WoW's PvP is dead, mostly to outdated combat and better PvP options in the genre. While HS is just not an eSports game, besides it's on a huge decline.
Blizzard's games have been incredibly mediocre lately, luckily they have so many mindless drones following them which haven't tasted a real quality game yet.
Thats kinda harsh, its pick up and play. Thats the beuty of there games and the way they want it. It appeals to the masses.
They have dedicated fans, more then any other company, doesnt make people mindless. They gave millions upon millions great exp in the genre, why be negative? why not be happy that so many people found enjoyment in there games?
tawess said:
Nah.. Esport just need a bit more spectacle to be a thing here. There need to be a show around it and it need to be more accessible.
Now as for Blizzard failing to get in to esport... Well.. they have a pretty good track record of doing stuff before... If you think about it... Both HotS, OW and HS are built for good entertainment. Short quick matches that are easy to commentate and spectate. No need to go deep in to stat listing (like say.. LoL) and with much better visual impact than most current shooters, making for better "TV"
It would in fact be foolish to count Blizzard out.
MLG otoh... as a brand... is not really worth water so their best bet is to just rebrand it asap.
LOL, so many kids who have no clue about the world..... Look you dont actually get to "make esports" Esports is a function of games, you have a great game that fits into esports it does well see league of legends" You got some pile of rubbish generic ZZZZZ game like heroes of the storm you got no esports NO MATTER HOW HARD YOU TRY. People don;t watch esports cause it is really fun to watch mundane gameplay 99% of people can do themselves (minus a little reaction time), people watch esports because the GAME is a game they love to play so they watch also.
TL Dr: only a moron thinks you can buy and create esports.....you make a great esports game you magically will have esports.
2. All the money you think Blizzard has they spent buying their freedom back from Vivendi. All that past money is gone to Vivendi. Look it up. That is the reason they canceled Titan.
3. What they bought are eSports promoters. They people who "Host" the show. If this was WWF, they didn't buy the wrestlers because they already own that. They bought the ring, lights, seats, cameras, Hosts, commentators, and all other supplies to host an event.
4. That $30 million was what "the Company" still owed for all the equipment, the remaining $15 million is what they are paying for the service providers who put on the show.
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Konfess your cyns and some maybe forgiven Boy: Why can't I talk to Him? Mom: We don't talk to Priests. As if it could exist, without being payed for. F2P means you get what you paid for. Pay nothing, get nothing. Even telemarketers wouldn't think that. It costs money to play. Therefore P2W.
The world can't even keep the Olympics clean & corruption free! The ever increasing growth of e-sports and the money involved will be a virtual world of e-steroid users staying ahead of detection, or corrupt detectives green lighting them. It's all about subtle advantages in this e-steroid world. Counter strike already seen past top players exposed.
Blizzard is more profitable than it has ever been including when WoW was at peak subscriptions. Hearthstone is the number four esports game. Activision Blizzard is expanding it's overseas operations with new acquisitions and markets. Activision is poised to bring some of it's other properties into the e-sports arena pioneered by Blizzard. This is another minor step in a massive ongoing market consolidation.
That's simply not true. Activision is doing better than ever, mostly due to Destiny.
Blizzard has had the lowest Revenue in 2014 and 2015 it's ever had, by far.
- HotS is a free to play game that 95% of beta testers abandoned it.
- HS is similar to HotS, though way more successful. They're making 100mil revenue yearly (though declining fast).
- Starcraft, new expansion released nearly with fallout 4, which is no wonder almost nobody even heard about it. Either way this game series is almost dead at this point.
- Diablo 3 is the only Blizzard game with positive reviews these days. However it's B2P and everyone who wanted to buy it, already did by now.
Blizzard is not doing fine, or othervise they wouldn't be suddenly making so many new games. It's a good question if WoW is even highest earning MMO at this point.
Either way it was about time, WoW never was nor ever will be the best MMO on the market. Their success was a huge luck story with no competition those days. Funny how the table turns when WoW gets some competition and in the span of 2 years their subs are more than 50% down.
Again Activision seem to think that they can change the scene by just having enough money to back up the plan. Someone should send them a memo that to dominate anything, they also need a product that is better than all the -already established- others.
On a sidenote: I guess the changes to WoW's PvP come in to support this crazy idea. Expect more arena getting shoved down your throats.
1: LOL, so many kids who have no clue about the world.....
2: Look you dont actually get to "make esports" Esports is a function of games,
3: you have a great game that fits into esports it does well see league of legends"
4: You got some pile of rubbish generic ZZZZZ game like heroes of the storm you got no esports NO MATTER HOW HARD YOU TRY.
5: People don;t watch esports cause it is really fun to watch mundane gameplay 99% of people can do themselves (minus a little reaction time), people watch esports because the GAME is a game they love to play so they watch also.
6:TL Dr: only a moron thinks you can buy and create esports.....you make a great esports game you magically will have esports.
1: Nice... not only did a get carded at Systembolaget today but i also got called a kid... Makes my impending 35:th birthday feel less ominous. Thank you
2: Actually.... You do... Very much so. People in general like a spectacle. Make something big enough of a spectacle and people will watch it. Now while i agree there has to be a certain vibe, a drive if you will to a game for it to be E-Sport you very much "make esports".
3: No you actually need a promotion and a support structure more than a great game. After all CS for an example is a at best average shooter, but the fast pace and clear simple objectives make it very spectator friendly. By that account LoL is actually fairly bad as a spectatot sport, it is near impossible to keep track of what is going on and why... It is the American football or Cricket of Esport (as in fun for the initiated but incomprehensible to the outside) LoL does have a massive amount of fans though so it is kind of self sustaining. That way it does not need to be casual viewer friendly.
4: Modern sporting events would argue against you... And so am i. Actually as a strict viewer experience HotS is a much better game. It is much easier to follow what happens on screen, maps have a much more obvious flow and matches are quicker leading to much more direct action. Not making a argument for gameplay as a participant here... just as a spectator.
5: You are right..Sort of.. But mundane games does not have to equal mundane gameplay. Just look at speedrunning for an example. You do not like Blizzard games, but that is personal bias and you let it color your entire view on the subject. That is a common mistake. But even so you are right that people do not watch things they find boring... But not everything is equally boring to everyone. Me... I find golf to be abvout as fun as peeling potatoes with my bare hands. Others find it riveting.
6: Only someone who calls others morons would be shortsighted enough to actually believe that esport "magically happens"
Or in short: With enough spectacle and the right framing you could turn farmville in to a esport.
I still don't get why anyone would pay money to watch someone play a video game. If that is your thing, there are millions of videos on the web that are free and are actually far more instructive than any esports event.
I think the joke is on Activision for wasting their money yet again.
I still don't get why anyone would pay money to watch someone play a video game. If that is your thing, there are millions of videos on the web that are free and are actually far more instructive than any esports event.
I think the joke is on Activision for wasting their money yet again.
It's the same reason people watch any "sport" type event, it's the most skilled people for a particular thing they like competing for fame/money.
There's a million videos on youtube far more instructive than a hockey game... but I'm not watching those I'm watching hockey games.
Exact same with esports, I have players I like and games I enjoy, teams I want to see win and commentators I find amusing... so I watch. I know people who don't even play League that watch it believe it or not.
Also Activision is trying to invest in a very valuable market but they just aren't getting it right. They aren't making games that have depth and are fun to watch. HoTS is so casual and feels so simplistic. Overwatch also feels like a game with very little spectator value.
League world championship had 15 million concurrent viewers at one point and over 36 million people tuned in during the matches... that is an absolutely MASSIVE audience.
Blizzard wants a huge presence in the esport scene for a reason.
I guess they are trying to fix the blunder that lost them the DOTA IP. They had a popular E-sport game but gave it away since they didn't want to hire in the Dota people but I am not sure they can fix that.
They seriously need something that makes a huge impact on the E-sport market, a new Counterstrike, LOL or DOTA and that is far from easy.
As for putting Wow money into Wow 2 that is a good idea but only when Wow drops below 3 million subscriptions. Right now they would just compete with themselves and while working on Wow 2 in secret would be smart a leak could loose them many players who decide to wait for the sequel instead. It isn't time for Wow 2 yet, but announcing it a year or 2 from now and releasing it 2020-2022 would be right.
I guess Blizzard will go a day without lunch money.
Overwatch -- Although I despise everything FPS, since Overwatch released in F&F I've not been able to stop playing it. The feeling's been pretty universal for those who have had access to it.
WoD was a complete blunder of epic proportions and created by a team that was relatively new to making MMOS and expansions as a whole -- from what I could tell -- due to them hiring so many people on at once. With the majority of veterans ever leaving Blizzard or moving onto different projects. Though Legion Alpha was been entertaining -- though I've only unlocked artifacts, tested trees and did the initial story for a single zone. Though as a whole? The game is still the most profitable MMO (and all time most profitable game) in the world. It even received the rare honor of being placed in the Video Game Hall of Fame next to the likes of Mario and Tetris. Not to mention having a movie come out in 2016.
Hearthstone -- I dislike computer card games as well, but I have this both on the computer and IOS just for a quick game here and there. Haven't bought any packs since I think it's kind've ridiculous to pay for virtual cards. Though it's strangely entrancing watching multiple people on youtube or twitch open 500 packs the day of release.
Diablo III: Getting more updates than WoW and the next expansion is still on the horizon. This game grew into something pretty entertaining, though I still have misgivings about online only since it destroyed the modding community for the game. Definitely the most polished and wild hack N slash on the market; I typically don't like stiff Hack N slash games with poor animations that are "hidden" by flash, which is pretty much every one the past five years save for Diablo III.
HotS: Despise the MOBA Genre, though this remains the most entertaining of the bunch aside from SMITE. Though with my poor skills I can't get a good rank to save me; it's a game with objectives that a team have to work for, and constant, near immediate engagements and team fights as opposed to a boring half hour of grinding. In LoL my friends carried me to Diamond with me half AFK or tabbing out, though we stopped playing this simply because the weakest member of the team can make you lose, unlike LoL where the strongest can carry you. Haven't spent enough time on DotA 2 to make an assessment, despite playing WCIII DotA for a good few months back in the day.
I in particular enjoy the HotS cartoons:
StarCraft: The game that started the Esport scene, with a lucrative selling of their trilogy and plans to release yearly mission packs. One of the only Esports games that really entertains you as you watch, as opposed to the boring MOBA genre where you watch people farm all day and just interact with other people who watch people farm all day. With enthusiastic announcers. Though I've had a distaste for sports in general and wondering why it's fun watching people toss balls around -- but the main point of it is comradeship between fans of teams and players and people interacting and not how boring and simple everything is at the core, when you take the audience away (especially with MOBAs).
My biggest eyebrow quirk will have to be with the fleeting popularity and acquisition of Candy Crush for $4,000,000,000. Though that's a discussion for another time.
There's nothing but profits for Blizzard at the moment and in the foreseeable future.
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When will they get it that you don't get into eSports with casual games..
HotS failed, it's nowhere near LoL, hell there are a couple of other less known Mobas ahead of it as well. Blizzard's expectations were to dominate the Moba market, and yet they failed miserably..
Overwatch will fail even more..WoW's PvP is dead, mostly to outdated combat and better PvP options in the genre. While HS is just not an eSports game, besides it's on a huge decline.
Blizzard's games have been incredibly mediocre lately, luckily they have so many mindless drones following them which haven't tasted a real quality game yet.
Hmmm, Heroes has regular tournaments, Overwatch is predicted to be very competitive and will most likely be an Esport. WoW is also doing fine with major tournaments. Same with Starcraft...yada yada
This will be interesting to say the least. I do laugh at how many say WoW is dying. Heck I think they been dying a year after they released the game if we go by what a lot of people have said. Even if WoW ends up with only a million playing it won't be losing cash once they do a server closing. If they really need to close servers, or just down size the server farm they have.
I believe they will come out with something new that brings excitement back to the gender. Time will tell that is for sure, you just can't count Blizzard out by any means.
I say it again... what took me by surprise in all f this is that MLG is still worth all that much. But i guess it is existing administration and systems more than brand they pay for. =P
Everyone is acting like eSports is some new craze.
Which is kinda cute.
Of course blizzard wants in on this. Does anyone not remember the starcraft tournies back in the day?
Or even older..the 80-90's with the nintendo tournements literally all over CA/WA?
Old ass me does.
Esports need bigger names anyhow. People who play these types of games (people like me) actually don't care about new or creative. We just want the same experience with a semi different set of rules.
Moba's follow core rules which one can only appreciate and those that think NEW IS BETTER for idea's often find themselves making....
A Nova...
Making.....christ there are so many bad moba's now...it's like mmo 2005 now.
We all know LoL will dominate forever as it's quite the first legit mlg class moba.
Now we have smite which i actually find far better than LoL.
Dota2 is just Dota again and hasn't been much a threat though the ability to sell items on the steam store really has peaked my interest in this title more.
I can go on and on about my love of moba's but no one is going to read that shit. Hell I didn't even read what i wrote myself.
Please provide a source for the rumour. A letter to shareholders about an acquisition is not a rumour that they're intending to do anything at all. Indeed, it's a rumour you've started entirely by yourselves. Nonsense outfit that you are.
Blizzard has purchased ailing pro leagues before, and will do so again. They don't purchase them to field dominance in a broad market, and instead purchase them to bolster their internal pro-esports offerings. They did the same with IGNs Pro League not too long ago, and subsumed it into their pro-esports offerings for SC2, WoW, etc, which was subsequently liquidated.
In reality, the acquisition seems to be worded towards assets and not operations. That means that it's more than likely that AB will liquidate most of MLG. That's in no way a move to "dominate" esports. MLG is a failing pro-league; ESL and IEM (both ESL-operated leagues) have pummelled MLG into the ground (MLG lost CoD to ESL, and was set to lose DOTA2 and/or Smite to ESL as well). In Europe, MLG gained no traction at all. AB will take any expertise and assets that will allow them to operate their own competitions in NA, and will gut the rest of the company. That's been their strategy with pro-league acquisitions since the dawn of time, a pivot to securing greater control over their own esport and broadcast operations.
Brenics said:
This will be interesting to say the least. I do laugh at how many say WoW is dying. Heck I think they been dying a year after they released the game if we go by what a lot of people have said. Even if WoW ends up with only a million playing it won't be losing cash once they do a server closing. If they really need to close servers, or just down size the server farm they have.
I believe they will come out with something new that brings excitement back to the gender. Time will tell that is for sure, you just can't count Blizzard out by any means.
With a million players, Blizzard won't be losing money on server infrastructure full stop (even if they kept all of the servers open).
When will they get it that you don't get into eSports with casual games..
HotS failed, it's nowhere near LoL, hell there are a couple of other less known Mobas ahead of it as well. Blizzard's expectations were to dominate the Moba market, and yet they failed miserably..
Overwatch will fail even more..WoW's PvP is dead, mostly to outdated combat and better PvP options in the genre. While HS is just not an eSports game, besides it's on a huge decline.
Blizzard's games have been incredibly mediocre lately, luckily they have so many mindless drones following them which haven't tasted a real quality game yet.
I'm not a Blizzard fan but I have to admit that they know how to make money and successful games. They keep making games that I laugh at but when I honestly look at how successful these games are it keeps my mouth shut. Right now the top played games on the internet and Blizzard owns 3 out of 5. And they still own the most played MMORPG. Now I will agree that these games aren't my style and I would say they suck. But to say they are making bad business decisions is just plain blindness. And I'm pretty sure they realize that LOL will not be knocked off their horse for quite a long time just like WOW hasn't been knocked off the horse yet.
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Nice take all the money from WoW subs in the past and not make WoW2 but spend the money on this crap
If they made a WoW2 I think that it would become the same problem there having with wow in the first place in general trying to get people to stay for longer point of time their mmo ideas are lacky abit.
They have dedicated fans, more then any other company, doesnt make people mindless. They gave millions upon millions great exp in the genre, why be negative? why not be happy that so many people found enjoyment in there games?
Nah.. Esport just need a bit more spectacle to be a thing here. There need to be a show around it and it need to be more accessible.
Now as for Blizzard failing to get in to esport... Well.. they have a pretty good track record of doing stuff before... If you think about it... Both HotS, OW and HS are built for good entertainment. Short quick matches that are easy to commentate and spectate. No need to go deep in to stat listing (like say.. LoL) and with much better visual impact than most current shooters, making for better "TV"
It would in fact be foolish to count Blizzard out.
MLG otoh... as a brand... is not really worth water so their best bet is to just rebrand it asap.
LOL, so many kids who have no clue about the world..... Look you dont actually get to "make esports" Esports is a function of games, you have a great game that fits into esports it does well see league of legends" You got some pile of rubbish generic ZZZZZ game like heroes of the storm you got no esports NO MATTER HOW HARD YOU TRY. People don;t watch esports cause it is really fun to watch mundane gameplay 99% of people can do themselves (minus a little reaction time), people watch esports because the GAME is a game they love to play so they watch also.
TL Dr: only a moron thinks you can buy and create esports.....you make a great esports game you magically will have esports.
2. All the money you think Blizzard has they spent buying their freedom back from Vivendi. All that past money is gone to Vivendi. Look it up. That is the reason they canceled Titan.
3. What they bought are eSports promoters. They people who "Host" the show. If this was WWF, they didn't buy the wrestlers because they already own that. They bought the ring, lights, seats, cameras, Hosts, commentators, and all other supplies to host an event.
4. That $30 million was what "the Company" still owed for all the equipment, the remaining $15 million is what they are paying for the service providers who put on the show.
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As if it could exist, without being payed for.
F2P means you get what you paid for. Pay nothing, get nothing.
Even telemarketers wouldn't think that.
It costs money to play. Therefore P2W.
Blizzard has had the lowest Revenue in 2014 and 2015 it's ever had, by far.
- HotS is a free to play game that 95% of beta testers abandoned it.
- HS is similar to HotS, though way more successful. They're making 100mil revenue yearly (though declining fast).
- Starcraft, new expansion released nearly with fallout 4, which is no wonder almost nobody even heard about it. Either way this game series is almost dead at this point.
- Diablo 3 is the only Blizzard game with positive reviews these days. However it's B2P and everyone who wanted to buy it, already did by now.
Blizzard is not doing fine, or othervise they wouldn't be suddenly making so many new games. It's a good question if WoW is even highest earning MMO at this point.
Either way it was about time, WoW never was nor ever will be the best MMO on the market. Their success was a huge luck story with no competition those days. Funny how the table turns when WoW gets some competition and in the span of 2 years their subs are more than 50% down.
Someone should send them a memo that to dominate anything, they also need a product that is better than all the -already established- others.
On a sidenote: I guess the changes to WoW's PvP come in to support this crazy idea. Expect more arena getting shoved down your throats.
2: Actually.... You do... Very much so. People in general like a spectacle. Make something big enough of a spectacle and people will watch it. Now while i agree there has to be a certain vibe, a drive if you will to a game for it to be E-Sport you very much "make esports".
3: No you actually need a promotion and a support structure more than a great game. After all CS for an example is a at best average shooter, but the fast pace and clear simple objectives make it very spectator friendly. By that account LoL is actually fairly bad as a spectatot sport, it is near impossible to keep track of what is going on and why... It is the American football or Cricket of Esport (as in fun for the initiated but incomprehensible to the outside) LoL does have a massive amount of fans though so it is kind of self sustaining. That way it does not need to be casual viewer friendly.
4: Modern sporting events would argue against you... And so am i. Actually as a strict viewer experience HotS is a much better game. It is much easier to follow what happens on screen, maps have a much more obvious flow and matches are quicker leading to much more direct action. Not making a argument for gameplay as a participant here... just as a spectator.
5: You are right..Sort of.. But mundane games does not have to equal mundane gameplay. Just look at speedrunning for an example. You do not like Blizzard games, but that is personal bias and you let it color your entire view on the subject. That is a common mistake. But even so you are right that people do not watch things they find boring... But not everything is equally boring to everyone. Me... I find golf to be abvout as fun as peeling potatoes with my bare hands. Others find it riveting.
6: Only someone who calls others morons would be shortsighted enough to actually believe that esport "magically happens"
Or in short: With enough spectacle and the right framing you could turn farmville in to a esport.
This have been a good conversation
I think the joke is on Activision for wasting their money yet again.
It's the same reason people watch any "sport" type event, it's the most skilled people for a particular thing they like competing for fame/money.
There's a million videos on youtube far more instructive than a hockey game... but I'm not watching those I'm watching hockey games.
Exact same with esports, I have players I like and games I enjoy, teams I want to see win and commentators I find amusing... so I watch. I know people who don't even play League that watch it believe it or not.
Also Activision is trying to invest in a very valuable market but they just aren't getting it right. They aren't making games that have depth and are fun to watch. HoTS is so casual and feels so simplistic. Overwatch also feels like a game with very little spectator value.
League world championship had 15 million concurrent viewers at one point and over 36 million people tuned in during the matches... that is an absolutely MASSIVE audience.
Blizzard wants a huge presence in the esport scene for a reason.
They seriously need something that makes a huge impact on the E-sport market, a new Counterstrike, LOL or DOTA and that is far from easy.
As for putting Wow money into Wow 2 that is a good idea but only when Wow drops below 3 million subscriptions. Right now they would just compete with themselves and while working on Wow 2 in secret would be smart a leak could loose them many players who decide to wait for the sequel instead. It isn't time for Wow 2 yet, but announcing it a year or 2 from now and releasing it 2020-2022 would be right.
Overwatch -- Although I despise everything FPS, since Overwatch released in F&F I've not been able to stop playing it. The feeling's been pretty universal for those who have had access to it.
WoD was a complete blunder of epic proportions and created by a team that was relatively new to making MMOS and expansions as a whole -- from what I could tell -- due to them hiring so many people on at once. With the majority of veterans ever leaving Blizzard or moving onto different projects. Though Legion Alpha was been entertaining -- though I've only unlocked artifacts, tested trees and did the initial story for a single zone. Though as a whole? The game is still the most profitable MMO (and all time most profitable game) in the world. It even received the rare honor of being placed in the Video Game Hall of Fame next to the likes of Mario and Tetris. Not to mention having a movie come out in 2016.
Hearthstone -- I dislike computer card games as well, but I have this both on the computer and IOS just for a quick game here and there. Haven't bought any packs since I think it's kind've ridiculous to pay for virtual cards. Though it's strangely entrancing watching multiple people on youtube or twitch open 500 packs the day of release.
Diablo III: Getting more updates than WoW and the next expansion is still on the horizon. This game grew into something pretty entertaining, though I still have misgivings about online only since it destroyed the modding community for the game. Definitely the most polished and wild hack N slash on the market; I typically don't like stiff Hack N slash games with poor animations that are "hidden" by flash, which is pretty much every one the past five years save for Diablo III.
HotS: Despise the MOBA Genre, though this remains the most entertaining of the bunch aside from SMITE. Though with my poor skills I can't get a good rank to save me; it's a game with objectives that a team have to work for, and constant, near immediate engagements and team fights as opposed to a boring half hour of grinding. In LoL my friends carried me to Diamond with me half AFK or tabbing out, though we stopped playing this simply because the weakest member of the team can make you lose, unlike LoL where the strongest can carry you. Haven't spent enough time on DotA 2 to make an assessment, despite playing WCIII DotA for a good few months back in the day.
I in particular enjoy the HotS cartoons:
StarCraft: The game that started the Esport scene, with a lucrative selling of their trilogy and plans to release yearly mission packs. One of the only Esports games that really entertains you as you watch, as opposed to the boring MOBA genre where you watch people farm all day and just interact with other people who watch people farm all day. With enthusiastic announcers. Though I've had a distaste for sports in general and wondering why it's fun watching people toss balls around -- but the main point of it is comradeship between fans of teams and players and people interacting and not how boring and simple everything is at the core, when you take the audience away (especially with MOBAs).
My biggest eyebrow quirk will have to be with the fleeting popularity and acquisition of Candy Crush for $4,000,000,000. Though that's a discussion for another time.
There's nothing but profits for Blizzard at the moment and in the foreseeable future.
Blizzard keeps trying and trying..
When will they get it that you don't get into eSports with casual games..
HotS failed, it's nowhere near LoL, hell there are a couple of other less known Mobas ahead of it as well. Blizzard's expectations were to dominate the Moba market, and yet they failed miserably..
Overwatch will fail even more..WoW's PvP is dead, mostly to outdated combat and better PvP options in the genre. While HS is just not an eSports game, besides it's on a huge decline.
Blizzard's games have been incredibly mediocre lately, luckily they have so many mindless drones following them which haven't tasted a real quality game yet.
Hmmm, Heroes has regular tournaments, Overwatch is predicted to be very competitive and will most likely be an Esport. WoW is also doing fine with major tournaments. Same with Starcraft...yada yada
They are going into it way more this year that is for sure.
I believe they will come out with something new that brings excitement back to the gender. Time will tell that is for sure, you just can't count Blizzard out by any means.
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HOWEVER, I love them when it comes to FPS. This is good news for OverWatch, save it's not console-dominated.
Which is kinda cute.
Of course blizzard wants in on this. Does anyone not remember the starcraft tournies back in the day?
Or even older..the 80-90's with the nintendo tournements literally all over CA/WA?
Old ass me does.
Esports need bigger names anyhow. People who play these types of games (people like me) actually don't care about new or creative. We just want the same experience with a semi different set of rules.
Moba's follow core rules which one can only appreciate and those that think NEW IS BETTER for idea's often find themselves making....
A Nova...
Making.....christ there are so many bad moba's now...it's like mmo 2005 now.
We all know LoL will dominate forever as it's quite the first legit mlg class moba.
Now we have smite which i actually find far better than LoL.
Dota2 is just Dota again and hasn't been much a threat though the ability to sell items on the steam store really has peaked my interest in this title more.
I can go on and on about my love of moba's but no one is going to read that shit. Hell I didn't even read what i wrote myself.
Blizzard has purchased ailing pro leagues before, and will do so again. They don't purchase them to field dominance in a broad market, and instead purchase them to bolster their internal pro-esports offerings. They did the same with IGNs Pro League not too long ago, and subsumed it into their pro-esports offerings for SC2, WoW, etc, which was subsequently liquidated.
In reality, the acquisition seems to be worded towards assets and not operations. That means that it's more than likely that AB will liquidate most of MLG. That's in no way a move to "dominate" esports. MLG is a failing pro-league; ESL and IEM (both ESL-operated leagues) have pummelled MLG into the ground (MLG lost CoD to ESL, and was set to lose DOTA2 and/or Smite to ESL as well). In Europe, MLG gained no traction at all. AB will take any expertise and assets that will allow them to operate their own competitions in NA, and will gut the rest of the company. That's been their strategy with pro-league acquisitions since the dawn of time, a pivot to securing greater control over their own esport and broadcast operations.
This will be interesting to say the least. I do laugh at how many say WoW is dying. Heck I think they been dying a year after they released the game if we go by what a lot of people have said. Even if WoW ends up with only a million playing it won't be losing cash once they do a server closing. If they really need to close servers, or just down size the server farm they have.
I believe they will come out with something new that brings excitement back to the gender. Time will tell that is for sure, you just can't count Blizzard out by any means.
With a million players, Blizzard won't be losing money on server infrastructure full stop (even if they kept all of the servers open).
I'm not a Blizzard fan but I have to admit that they know how to make money and successful games. They keep making games that I laugh at but when I honestly look at how successful these games are it keeps my mouth shut. Right now the top played games on the internet and Blizzard owns 3 out of 5. And they still own the most played MMORPG. Now I will agree that these games aren't my style and I would say they suck. But to say they are making bad business decisions is just plain blindness. And I'm pretty sure they realize that LOL will not be knocked off their horse for quite a long time just like WOW hasn't been knocked off the horse yet.