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On the Table - Star Wars Force and Destiny - General News

SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129
edited January 2016 in News & Features Discussion

imageOn the Table - Star Wars Force and Destiny - General News

 This month Rob returns with an On the Table that is topical to pop culture. Star Wars is back in theaters so he took a look at the newest core rule book to Fantasy Flight Games pen and paper Star Wars RPG.

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  • ThupliThupli Member RarePosts: 1,318
    edited January 2016
    In before: Not an mmorpg, blah blah, what happens to this site, blah blah.

    Thanks for this!

  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,585
    Sadly my friends have long since grown up and left me behind. I still like to read this stuff, but never have a chance to play anything but computer games any more...

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  • ohgodtherats707ohgodtherats707 Member UncommonPosts: 85
    Ive been playing Edge of the Empire by the same people very fun with large groups. The Action Dice are something to get used to but its a very fun RPG system. I would Also recommend X -wing Miniatures by the same company.
  • ThourneThourne Member RarePosts: 757
    Don't much care for the FFG system, but that seems a fair price for a book of that size these days.

    Our group still scratches the SW itch with wegd6 version or occasionally a modified skill list version of RQ6/BRP.
  • RoinRoin Member RarePosts: 3,444
    Thupli said:
    In before: Not an mmorpg, blah blah, what happens to this site, blah blah.



    Thanks for this!


    So I'm not the only one tired of people beating that dead horse.

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  • rodingorodingo Member RarePosts: 2,870
    Roin said:
    Thupli said:

    In before: Not an mmorpg, blah blah, what happens to this site, blah blah.









    Thanks for this!





    So I'm not the only one tired of people beating that dead horse.


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  • jbryan33jbryan33 Member UncommonPosts: 1
    The 3 different versions of these games are fun, and the lack of limits on what you can learn with your character is nice. You could start as a diplomat, eventually train as a bounty hunter, then one day learn one of specialized lightsaber fighting styles..of which FaD has a few different specializations for.
  • WolfClawsWolfClaws Member UncommonPosts: 638
    Not a MMO!

    The best game system I have played to date is Star Wars: Saga Edition. Used d20s but everything was streamlined, yet still complex.

    Problem is, no one plays this stuff where I live... Only Magic: The Gathering, and a couple of DnD games.
  • IkedaIkeda Member RarePosts: 2,751
    I've been fairly competitive (until recently) in X-Wing miniatures. Tried to get into Armada but found it lacking.

    I do like Imperial Assault though. That with expansions seems to scratch an itch as well.
  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441
    I do have the other books and the sytem is pretty good when you get used to the dice. That part is a bit annoying, all dice looks just the same and that is just wrong to me as a roleplayer... But I played D20, Saga and D6 and this system actually have more Star wars feeling then any of those systems. Saga was pretty good in the beginning but as players gain power the balance goes away and it get less and less fun the longer you play (which should be the other way around).

    Not sure about this book yet (why no score on it?), but edge of the empire is fun, recommend it. :)
  • GrakulenGrakulen Staff WriterMMORPG.COM Staff LegendaryPosts: 894
    @loke666 It got a 4 out of 5 stars

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  • MoiraeMoirae Member RarePosts: 3,318
    edited January 2016
    wth? No, I'm not kidding. Since when does this site review pen and paper games? Look, I love p&p games. It's where I started after all (Ahhh Dungeons and Dragons. I remember playing 18 hours, going to sleep for a few hours, then doing it all again in my early 20's. Good times). You guys must be getting short of material if this is what you're resorting to. Let's look at the name on the site... mmo=massively multiplayer online and rpg= role playing games. Recently you've stopped just reviewing the rpg part but I can live with that because it's still the mmo part. And then you stopped with the mmo part and stayed at least with actual computer games. Now you're resorting to p&p games? Do you remember that the very name of this site is mmorpg.com? Maybe you should consider changing the name if you have run out of things to talk about. Cause... damn...
  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441
    Moirae said:
    wth? No, I'm not kidding. Since when does this site review pen and paper games? Look, I love p&p games. It's where I started after all (Ahhh Dungeons and Dragons. I remember playing 18 hours, going to sleep for a few hours, then doing it all again in my early 20's. Good times). You guys must be getting short of material if this is what you're resorting to. Let's look at the name on the site... mmo=massively multiplayer online and rpg= role playing games. Recently you've stopped just reviewing the rpg part but I can live with that because it's still the mmo part. And then you stopped with the mmo part and stayed at least with actual computer games. Now you're resorting to p&p games? Do you remember that the very name of this site is mmorpg.com? Maybe you should consider changing the name if you have run out of things to talk about. Cause... damn...
    The review games further away in the past, Diablo is neither a MMO or a RPG, this is at least a RPG.

    Broaden the site isn't bad, it is just that they need to get better with setting labels on the game so we can see what type of games they are (and skip what we aren't interested in).
    Grakulen said:
    @loke666 It got a 4 out of 5 stars
    Thanks, I guess I need to pick it up when I have time for some SW RPGing again (running a Shadowrun campaign right now). :)
    Ikeda said:
    I've been fairly competitive (until recently) in X-Wing miniatures. Tried to get into Armada but found it lacking.

    I do like Imperial Assault though. That with expansions seems to scratch an itch as well.
    I have mixed feelings about that game, I like the looks and feel of it but the balance is really bad. We did the entire campaign, had hell and lost 4 of the 5 first scenarios and then we barely won the next few. After that we just steamrolled everything.

    X-wing is fun, but I did play some custom game a few years back where they had replaced Blue max WW1 planes with SW and called it Star max and it was even better. Not sure where the guys got the rules or if they made it themselves though.
  • stevebombsquadstevebombsquad Member UncommonPosts: 884
    Loke666 said:

    I have mixed feelings about that game, I like the looks and feel of it but the balance is really bad. We did the entire campaign, had hell and lost 4 of the 5 first scenarios and then we barely won the next few. After that we just steamrolled everything.

    X-wing is fun, but I did play some custom game a few years back where they had replaced Blue max WW1 planes with SW and called it Star max and it was even better. Not sure where the guys got the rules or if they made it themselves though.
    I felt the same way about Imperial Assault. The miniatures work nicely though for EOTE or Force and Destiny.

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  • ArchlyteArchlyte Member RarePosts: 1,405
    The dice are regular Polyhedron dice but have some special characters and odd results? Like d6 has five outcomes or something? 
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  • AndraxxAndraxx Member UncommonPosts: 256
    A description of the dice mechanics can be found here:
    https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2012/11/19/at-the-core/
  • WolfClawsWolfClaws Member UncommonPosts: 638
    edited January 2016
    Grakulen said:
    @loke666 It got a 4 out of 5 stars

    Thanks, I guess I need to pick it up when I have time for some SW RPGing again (running a Shadowrun campaign right now). :)

    @Loke666 I really LOVE me some Shadowrun.... seriously, check my blog on this site out LOL!
  • evgen88evgen88 Member UncommonPosts: 120
    Slapshot1188 said:
    Sadly my friends have long since grown up and left me behind. I still like to read this stuff, but never have a chance to play anything but computer games any more...


    If only you could play this kind of game online with online people like you can in mmorpg . . .
    https://roll20.net/
  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441
    WolfClaws said:
    Grakulen said:
    @loke666 It got a 4 out of 5 stars

    Thanks, I guess I need to pick it up when I have time for some SW RPGing again (running a Shadowrun campaign right now). :)

    @Loke666 I really LOVE me some Shadowrun.... seriously, check my blog on this site out LOL!
    I ran a nice SR game yesterday where my players got blueprints from a real world museum with updated security and planned a heist to switch  an artifact with a forgery. They planned it for hours and to my surprise pulled it off perfectly. A certain GM had been watching "Leverage" again before setting up the story. :)

    Shadowrun is really the only RPG I played that offer that kind of action, their brains together with a little luck (and the decker almost fell to his death on the trip to the roof) made the day. I wish MMOs could be more like that now and then. The whole thing was pretty open ended, I didn't have any exact idea how they were going to do it, I had stats on the people working on the museum (and pictures of course), on the security and the network (guarded by a nasty black IC who looked like a mummy) but they had to figure out how to deal with it themselves.

    They actually got a secretary insert a virus that turned off the security on the roof on an limited signed album with her favorite band for starters. I was rather proud of them, their second time playing and I am writing stuff to teach them the world and the game before running "Universal Brotherhood" with them. I have also put a lot of work in pop culture in the year 2050 with bands, movies, holovid shows and so on (Wyrmtalk with Dunkelzahn is always a favorite) to add a more realistic experience.

    My rate on the 2 earlier Star wars RPGs from FFG is 3.5-4 of 5. Shadowrun is 5 of 5. :D
  • GrakulenGrakulen Staff WriterMMORPG.COM Staff LegendaryPosts: 894
    Moirae said:
    wth? No, I'm not kidding. Since when does this site review pen and paper games? Look, I love p&p games. It's where I started after all (Ahhh Dungeons and Dragons. I remember playing 18 hours, going to sleep for a few hours, then doing it all again in my early 20's. Good times). You guys must be getting short of material if this is what you're resorting to. Let's look at the name on the site... mmo=massively multiplayer online and rpg= role playing games. Recently you've stopped just reviewing the rpg part but I can live with that because it's still the mmo part. And then you stopped with the mmo part and stayed at least with actual computer games. Now you're resorting to p&p games? Do you remember that the very name of this site is mmorpg.com? Maybe you should consider changing the name if you have run out of things to talk about. Cause... damn...


    @Moirae I talked about this the first time I ran a column like this. This is the fifth or sixth one. This is something I do as bonus content on the site. This doesn't take away from any MMO content we would have had on the site. This is just, in addition to. Any time you see a column titled "On the Table" it will be a board game or a P&P RPG. Feel free not to read them. Thank you if you do.

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  • DrakephireDrakephire Member UncommonPosts: 451
    Grakulen said:
    @Moirae I talked about this the first time I ran a column like this. This is the fifth or sixth one. This is something I do as bonus content on the site. This doesn't take away from any MMO content we would have had on the site. This is just, in addition to. Any time you see a column titled "On the Table" it will be a board game or a P&P RPG. Feel free not to read them. Thank you if you do.
    I for one appreciate the broader content whether it is bonus or not. Let's be frank. MMO's in general have become rather tedious and boring...not much exciting has happened in this genre of games for a while.  But there is a small resurgence of PnP RPG play...the original MMORPGs if you will. Like talking about music releases on vinyl when most music releases digitally these days.
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