@Grakulen Another we can agree on. Zelda II was one of the first games I took the time to actually figure out and beat. Who'm I kidding, the Nintendo Power was fantastic to help me solve that game. But the lack of Dragon Quest/Warrior I just don't know. VII is going to forever get a spot. Is Planescape better than Dragon Quest/Warrior? I just don't know. But... picking a top 3 is difficult to begin with.
1. FFVII - Absolute classic from my childhood, got me hooked on RPGs. I still play the game through once every 18months or so.
2. Morrowind - Open world exploration, fantastic setting, great guilds and my introduction to the modding scene.
3. Ocarina of Time
I've certainly played better RPGs over the years, but these three are my most memorable. Part of the memory is just that they were "first", so each seemed a massive leap forwards in comparison to everything else I'd played up until that point. Another part is that I was simply younger and so cared more about the stories and wasn't as aware of design flaws.
This. Being aware of design flaws and all the information we know today, kills the magical experience of those old titles if played today.
My list would be:
- Zelda: The Ocarina of Time
- Fallout 2
- The Elder Scrolls: Morrowind
Splinter Cell
Dark Messiah of Might and Magic
Out of This World
I still play these from time to time.
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Chrono Trigger (Replay value was amazing, other than my horrible memory, I know about every nook and cranny)
Neverwinter Nights (Gamespy network I think is shutdown now? But holy cow the amount of stuff to do was endless. From playing other people's campaigns to building your own. An experience I could never forget.)
Shining Force (Sure, maybe not completely an RPG, and more of a tactical turn-based game, but I had spent many of days on my Genesis playing this.)
People who list bethesda games don't know what a rpg is.
Sure we do.
Especially because they allow us to play a "role" and one that we choose. But go ahead, name one that you think is a good example and If I've played it I'll weigh in my opinion.
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Honorable Mentions - Ultima III for being the first rpg I played without a combat ending. FF6 for the World of Ruin twist. FFVII was more expansive and prettier, but was a far more flawed game. The original Wasteland for letting you get STDs by banging 3 boobed prostitutes.
My favorites would be ( in the order i played them) :
- might and magic 7
- gothic 1
- temple of elemental evil
these games i finished so many times, and without them I wouldn't had played other rpgs or mmos
Can't say which one was the best because all 3 played differently
Honorable mentioned are kotor ( really good) and lineage 2 ( first mmorpg)
1. TES 2: Daggerfall
This game owned my life for about 8 months. Every spare minute I had was spend on this. Just a great game. For it's time, the level of immersion was incredible. I'd be on the edge of my seat, shitting myself in every dungeon.
2. Mass Effect 2
290 hours according to Steam and I loved every minute of it. Best of the trilogy with an epic ending. Maybe if ME3 hadn't had a complete brainfart for an ending then ME3 would be here instead.
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Tough one, but...
3. Final Fantasy Tactics - the varieties.... The dark story, the unsung hero...
2. Morrowind - unprecedented freedom, and consequences, I've never felt more like "this is my character, my story"
1. FF6 - So many interesting characters, secrets, and the best ff story imo, the dungeons and bosses that require all (16?) characters....Just Epic
Besides all that, these are the games I've played the most
Honorable mention goes to Suikoden 1&2, NWN, and FF9.
I think many people just don't know what some of the truely great RPGs were and are so wrapped up on high end graphics and action play that they have forgotten deep stories, strategic play and character development.
I'm also playing Pillars of Eternity and it is really taking me back to what is great in a good RPG....
Skyrim
Dragon Age Inquisition
Witcher 3
All good examples of modern action oriented RPGs that are wonderful but lacking in some of the story and development of games i've listed.
Old school Might and Magic 2 and the Gold Box D&D games for me.
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Xenogears
Diablo 2
Final fantasy tactics
Final fantasy VI
KOTOR
Morrowind
Skyrim
Planescape Torment
Secret of Mana
A Link to the Past/ Zelda 3
Final fantasy IV
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This. Being aware of design flaws and all the information we know today, kills the magical experience of those old titles if played today.
My list would be:
- Zelda: The Ocarina of Time
- Fallout 2
- The Elder Scrolls: Morrowind
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1. Chrono Trigger
2. Planescape Torment
3. The Witcher 3
Dark Messiah of Might and Magic
Out of This World
I still play these from time to time.
"We all do the best we can based on life experience, point of view, and our ability to believe in ourselves." - Naropa "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are." SR Covey
Chrono Trigger (Replay value was amazing, other than my horrible memory, I know about every nook and cranny)
Neverwinter Nights (Gamespy network I think is shutdown now? But holy cow the amount of stuff to do was endless. From playing other people's campaigns to building your own. An experience I could never forget.)
Shining Force (Sure, maybe not completely an RPG, and more of a tactical turn-based game, but I had spent many of days on my Genesis playing this.)
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Especially because they allow us to play a "role" and one that we choose. But go ahead, name one that you think is a good example and If I've played it I'll weigh in my opinion.
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Hmm. Let's see.. Not in any particular order
1) Legend of the Dragoon
2) Xenogears
3) FF Tactics
Hon. Mentions
1) Wild Arms
2) FFVII
3) Suikoden 2
4) Vagrant Story
5) Breath of Fire III
I could go on and on but I (as well as most of us) would be here all night!
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2. Chrono Trigger
3. Chrono Trigger
Honorable Mentions - Ultima III for being the first rpg I played without a combat ending. FF6 for the World of Ruin twist. FFVII was more expansive and prettier, but was a far more flawed game. The original Wasteland for letting you get STDs by banging 3 boobed prostitutes.
- might and magic 7
- gothic 1
- temple of elemental evil
these games i finished so many times, and without them I wouldn't had played other rpgs or mmos
Can't say which one was the best because all 3 played differently
Honorable mentioned are kotor ( really good) and lineage 2 ( first mmorpg)
This game owned my life for about 8 months. Every spare minute I had was spend on this. Just a great game. For it's time, the level of immersion was incredible. I'd be on the edge of my seat, shitting myself in every dungeon.
2. Mass Effect 2
290 hours according to Steam and I loved every minute of it. Best of the trilogy with an epic ending. Maybe if ME3 hadn't had a complete brainfart for an ending then ME3 would be here instead.
3. Baldur's Gate
Go for the eyes, Boo!
1, NWN2
2, Fallout 3
3, The witcher 3
2. Black Crypt
3. Bloodwych
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Eye of the Beholder
Morrowind.
Honourable mention to Exile: Escape from the Pit
I thought about this. Couldn't remember the differences though.
FFVII, Wild ARMS, Fallout 2
3. Final Fantasy Tactics - the varieties.... The dark story, the unsung hero...
2. Morrowind - unprecedented freedom, and consequences, I've never felt more like "this is my character, my story"
1. FF6 - So many interesting characters, secrets, and the best ff story imo, the dungeons and bosses that require all (16?) characters....Just Epic
Besides all that, these are the games I've played the most
Honorable mention goes to Suikoden 1&2, NWN, and FF9.
Ultima 7
Kotor
I think many people just don't know what some of the truely great RPGs were and are so wrapped up on high end graphics and action play that they have forgotten deep stories, strategic play and character development.
I'm also playing Pillars of Eternity and it is really taking me back to what is great in a good RPG....
Skyrim
Dragon Age Inquisition
Witcher 3
All good examples of modern action oriented RPGs that are wonderful but lacking in some of the story and development of games i've listed.
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Ethion
_________________________________
Vic - "Androzzi here"
John - "Vic, your case just busted wide open."
Vic - "So close it for me!"
John - "Looks like your going to have to close it yourself, SHITTY!!!!"
FFVII
Diablo
Xenogears
Just for fun I'll list the 3 games that really got me started with gaming in general.
Frog Bog
Double Dragon III
Super Mario 2
Diablo 2
Final fantasy tactics
Final fantasy VI
KOTOR
Morrowind
Skyrim
Planescape Torment
Secret of Mana
A Link to the Past/ Zelda 3 Final fantasy IV
Any mmo worth its salt should be like a good prostitute when it comes to its game world- One hell of a faker, and a damn good shaker!