Howdy, Stranger!
It looks like you're new here. If you want to get involved, click one of these buttons!
Quick Links
Is he right?
Daikuru
Member RarePosts: 797
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
- Albert Einstein
- Albert Einstein
Comments
These days people take it all for granted so they want to be entertained to an extreme level, the problem is it's incredibly hard to entertain people with standards they have today.
That's why companies have stopped making mmorpg titles now, the gamers are too hard to entertain and they cost too much to gamble with. Making an mmo and people bailing on the game in 4-5 months just isn't worth it.
You can't make an mmo that is popular like they used to be because the magic and wonder is gone, if you try to make an "old school" title people will bail quick because it's boring. Things that worked back in the day do not work now.
Oh and just saying, if he really knew what he was talking about he wouldn't be begging for money on twitch. He would have a job at a game dev.
I guarantee you this guy won't be playing black desert in a couple of months, almost everything he says is stupid. I'm guessing he is being paid to promote it or something (pro-tip: saying "i'm not paid to promote this" doesn't mean he wasn't paid to promote it).
I agree with him, raiding should not be the final destination it should be an option in a crowd of many other bits of content at endgame.
When you're done raiding, then what? It's most likely the reason top PvE guilds are bowing out, there's nothing to do and pay a sub for once they've done raiding, put on top of this the long ass content droughts.
Raids ruin games. As does any other game that features singularly dominant end-game content.
It makes sense to me.
I can care less about raiding/dungeons as for me the true beauty in BDO is in the hidden content, kind of like the artifact hunting in RIFT.Just this time i am looking for caves/nodes.
Best end game -> turn every stone in the world while you are a swamped with variety of other tasks each of them equally important
That is a "If 2+3 does not make 4, then it makes 7" type logic...
MOST if not all players that CLAIM they play WOW because it is a great game ,never had a CLUE what the game was like and they already purchased it.He is basically saying the same thing,players that claim it was great based on raiding but they had not yet raided.
However there is a MUCH bigger picture>>>Blizzard...hype...fanbois everybody following the hype.
As to Raiding ,i have never thought raiding was anything more than a joke,an idea that some crappy system designer thought it would be cool or a cool attraction to be a part of the l33t crowd.
Now back to this guy in video....he got max level in 2 weeks,need i say anymore?He rushed through the game so fast,he never learned a thing,likely couldn't remember any of the game.However he is basically describing WOW as i know it,a shallow game with various shallow reasons to play it.....speed leveling,EASY leveling...raiding...flying mounts all shallow reasons to play a game.
I'd swear that guy has to be Forsen's brother ...feelsbadman.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
WHat's wrong with instantly warping into a raid,that is realistic no? LMAO
As far as replacing OLD content,that has been my complaint for the last 15 years,EVERY single game is doing that because >>>>>>$$$$$ it is CHEAPER to do.
NOw you know why i get bored of these games now,they are VERY shallow games that are nothing more than a RACE to end game.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
Maybe BDO will be his game, but, i doubt it, no doubt be hearing the same old rant a few months down the line.
Sorry but raiders, like PVP'ers are kind of a minority group, just a bit more 'elitist' and thats pretty much why Vanilla WoW evolved the way it did.
So few actually got involved in the whole raiding thing, it was kind of inevitable, more people got involved in PVP than they did raiding, but the main reason why WoW lasted as long as it has, with the numbers it has, which is pretty amazing for a game this old, is because its a game that is PVE orientated, and its pretty good at what it does.
As for the 3 hours per week thing, it really shouldn't be much of a surprise, as he said himself, the Raiders pretty much represented under 1% of the total playerbase, even PVP'ers represent a good 10% or more, but the majority of players, did neither of those things, so, PVP'ers have their battlegrounds, PVE'ers have their undisturbed gameplay, and Raiders, they get their 3 hours, its all proportional.
His talk about flying mounts, the queue system and the AH to Bank circlejerk, the scrapping of previous content in new expansions, etc., also follows my own lines of thought. I don't know about Black Desert, the game looks like a mixed bag to me at first glance. But i'll check it out one day.
However, all of that is not the biggest failing of WoW imo. For me the biggest failing is that Blizzard, with all the money and the players backing them up, never did more exciting things with the game. Events like Ahn'Qiraj were NEVER repeated in all this time, likely because they never even wanted to take the risk pissing a few people off.
Feel free to use my referral link for SW:TOR if you want to test out the game. You'll get some special unlocks!
(2+(3x2))-1 = 7
(2+3)x(2-1) = 5
I AM A TOP RAIDER ( EU firsts that do not matter but I will keep saying it anyway)
WOW is crap now
I RUSHED TO MAX LEVEL, nothing to do so wow is crap now
RAIDS have ruined all games, but I am a top raider with EU firsts.
Bloody weird post, he seems to be a bit of a drama queen ;(
I did say at time that flying mounts had an adverse effect on the game,
But is premis is after raiding what is left, nothing, regardless of how you/he gets there its the same, once there is nothing left, now his point is about BDO having no such problems, but i would add, lets see how it goes in 3-6months
This post is all my opinion, but I welcome debate on anything i have put, however, personal slander / name calling belongs in game
where of course you're welcome to call me names im often found lounging about in EvE online.
Use this code for 21days trial in eve online https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=d385aff2-794a-44a4-96f1-3967ccf6d720&action=buddy
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
What an utter waste of a beautiful world where you could go and be surprised as the landscape changed and the colours faded or brightened up as you change zones without loading. Now no one cares it is sad truly that people have forgotten or do not care to go out and explore any more. I wonder whether it breaks the heart of the artist who poured so many hours into creating a world to see no one even gets to look at it. Do they bother to really create then or just use copy paste I wonder.
WoW used to be a 'world' it is not that any longer and we have only ourselves to blame for it because we all clamoured for a better way to form groups and they should have allowed auto grouping for dungeons once you have travelled there.
So much waste.
Some of his assumptions don't apply, I knew about raiding before WOW, DAOC introduced it to me (TOA expansion) and I didn't care for it.
I left right before the launch of BC when they changed the mechanics in such a way to reduce group sizes from 40 to lower, which killed my guild (different server, different guild) who was in the process of clearing AQ40
I will not disagree though, raiding end game is not something I enjoy, not sure if it's the worst end game out there, some folks must love it, me I prefer a more open end experience a la EVE.
I am Phenomenal
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
1.I tried vanilla and to be honest I hated it (it was my first mmo it was taking way too long time lvling was a slow night mare
2.I joined in Cataclysm and I enjoyed the causality of the game I raided I farmed I did all the old raids I've read the lore and loved it .
3.I got bored gear in wow is useless even expansion is a new rush for gear I got sick MOP 1 subed 2 months got best gear in 1 months and quit same with WOD ... I always sub for 2 months but quit after 20 30 days
And yes I agree with him now in wow is very little content ....I got every thing in WOD in 25 days Maxed Garrison with auction even some of top gear and farmed to death old Wrath Of the Lich King time travel dungeons ...in 1 Event I farmed that cool looking mount and guess what it took me 2 and a half days
This causality allows me to play wow but also turn me away bc game became it value
And I agree in WOD sucks what end game ? Garrison I agree I also was logging for a few hours and was login off bc there is nothing to do
The rise in this way of thinking has, in my opinion, decimated the majority of the text based chat in zones where it used to be common. Voice chat is definitely not inclusive, no matter what anyone believes. It is very limited and talking over each other is not a workable option. Have you ever tried talking to someone in another country and discover that there is a delay, causing you to talk over each other? Yeah, that doesn't work at all.
A opinion can not be right or wrong... If it could it would be a fact. They can only break with norms and social rules.
So the answer is... To him he is right. We can not take away his experience of the situation. We can only agree or disagree (if we even care that much)
In my opinion he has a very narrow view of the subject and i would not agree. But that i just my opinion, it is not backed by any facts.
This have been a good conversation
I never wanted this :chuffed:
Too much convenience has killed the game world.