both project failed before release why? people in this day dont want play this kind game and to this kind game work need people
People dont want the Theme park genre quest hub trinity system anymore either.
But since you are ahead of the curb and know what people want i look forward to seeing your mmorpg development company fire up this year, and you can start making the kinda game us people want.
I'm unable to find any information on Big Picture Games Ltd outside the Darfall:RoA website, that has nothing more than some pictures of people with a brief description of who they are. According to Adventurine SA website they license technology (game engine) yet this game isn't just an engine, it's all of the assets of the previous two failed darkfall games produced by Adventurine themselves.
Maybe I've just got my tinfoil hat on to tight today, but this looks like a scam by Adventurine to sell the same game a 3rd time. This time through a "community funded project", through way of an Ltd company backed by Adventurine SA.
In otherwords, they're licensing the game to themselves.
A startup game developer bought the rights. They have no background to look into.
But they didn't buy the rights, they purchased a license.
This looks very much like a version of what a lot of companies to do avoid paying taxes. Start a new company as a subsidiary, sell the IP to that company, and then license it back to the original company.
Granted that isn't exactly what is happening here, and obviously I have no proof that Adv. isn't licensing the game to themselves. However the fact they would license the entire game to another company so they can release the exact same game ( and this is the exact same game, you can see that in the trailer and information about it from the site) makes absolutely no sense from any business perspective what-so-ever.
No one would do this if they're trying to make money on their product, unless their product isn't making money, they've already sold the same product more than once in the past, and they want to draw in a more capital on the same product yet again.
Sad that in all these years there's still only Themepark/WoW Clone's to choose from.
Yeah I agree, but it doesn't make a founding campaign of a 7 years game any less ridiculous.
It really doesnt, it isnt like AV gave them a fully functioning game, they have them pieces they need to fix and rebuild major parts. Plus they will continue development of the 2012 content that was never released. (AV were a lazy company they made the only mmorpg worth paying for or playing on the market, then didnt support it/fix it at all) Now they handed off the rubble to 2 Development companys that are fully made up of Darkfall Online fan's.
You name 1 other game that was so inspiring, addictive, and has such a massive cult following that even 1 group of fans got together to make a company to bring it back (Not a EMU)?
Yeah you cant, because everything on the market is complete Trash and has been since before 2009.
Sad that in all these years there's still only Themepark/WoW Clone's to choose from.
Yeah I agree, but it doesn't make a founding campaign of a 7 years game any less ridiculous.
It really doesnt, it isnt like AV gave them a fully functioning game, they have them pieces they need to fix and rebuild major parts. Plus they will continue development of the 2012 content that was never released. (AV were a lazy company they made the only mmorpg worth paying for or playing on the market, then didnt support it/fix it at all) Now they handed off the rubble to 2 Development companys that are fully made up of Darkfall Online fan's.
You name 1 other game that was so inspiring, addictive, and has such a massive cult following that even 1 group of fans got together to make a company to bring it back (Not a EMU)?
Yeah you cant, because everything on the market is complete Trash and has been since before 2009.
How can you be sure that the "group of fans" isn't really just AV licensing the game to themselves. They already sold the same game twice already, no one is going to buy it a 3rd time if it was being sold by AV again.
You just said pretty much the same thing that AV said when they announced they were redeveloping DF and releasing a new game.
How does this not throw up a red flag for you?
Edit: Is AV planning to phase out their version of DF when this one releases? Or are they planning to keep it running? Does this not seem the least bit odd that a company would allow another version of their game to be released that is going to compete with the same core group of players as their own game?
How does this make any sense.
Would you not think something was strange if Blizzard announced they had licensed WoW to a group of guys who would be releasing the exact same game, even while Blizzard intended to keep WoW running for themselves?
From a business perspective, this would be considered suicide. This makes absolutely no sense unless AV intends to shut down their version of DF, or Big Picture Games is a shell company for AV to try and sell the same game for a 3rd time under the guise of it being a new game.
Sad that in all these years there's still only Themepark/WoW Clone's to choose from.
Yeah I agree, but it doesn't make a founding campaign of a 7 years game any less ridiculous.
It really doesnt, it isnt like AV gave them a fully functioning game, they have them pieces they need to fix and rebuild major parts. Plus they will continue development of the 2012 content that was never released. (AV were a lazy company they made the only mmorpg worth paying for or playing on the market, then didnt support it/fix it at all) Now they handed off the rubble to 2 Development companys that are fully made up of Darkfall Online fan's.
You name 1 other game that was so inspiring, addictive, and has such a massive cult following that even 1 group of fans got together to make a company to bring it back (Not a EMU)?
Yeah you cant, because everything on the market is complete Trash and has been since before 2009.
How can you be sure that the "group of fans" isn't really just AV licensing the game to themselves. They already sold the same game twice already, no one is going to buy it a 3rd time if it was being sold by AV again.
You just said pretty much the same thing that AV said when they announced they were redeveloping DF and releasing a new game.
How does this not throw up a red flag for you?
Edit: Is AV planning to phase out their version of DF when this one releases? Or are they planning to keep it running? Does this not seem the least bit odd that a company would allow another version of their game to be released that is going to compete with the same core group of players as their own game?
How does this make any sense.
Would you not think something was strange if Blizzard announced they had licensed WoW to a group of guys who would be releasing the exact same game, even while Blizzard intended to keep WoW running for themselves?
From a business perspective, this would be considered suicide. This makes absolutely no sense unless AV intends to shut down their version of DF, or Big Picture Games is a shell company for AV to try and sell the same game for a 3rd time under the guise of it being a new game.
I watched these groups form and battle with AV for the license.
But that isnt whats happening, and yes AV plan to continue Development on UW they are making it Freemium and bla bla bla dont care DF:UW was terrible and unwanted by all the DFO players, AV is hated and unwanted by the DFO players.
We got rid of both and got the masterpiece in the hands of 2 company's who actually have passion for the game, and out of control of the lazy Greeks who have lied to us and back stabbed us over the years.
Edit: Is AV planning to phase out their version of DF when this one releases? Or are they planning to keep it running? Does this not seem the least bit odd that a company would allow another version of their game to be released that is going to compete with the same core group of players as their own game?
How does this make any sense.
Would you not think something was strange if Blizzard announced they had licensed WoW to a group of guys who would be releasing the exact same game, even while Blizzard intended to keep WoW running for themselves?
From a business perspective, this would be considered suicide. This makes absolutely no sense unless AV intends to shut down their version of DF, or Big Picture Games is a shell company for AV to try and sell the same game for a 3rd time under the guise of it being a new game.
I watched these groups form and battle with AV for the license.
But that isnt whats happening, and yes AV plan to continue Development on UW they are making it Freemium and bla bla bla dont care DF:UW was terrible and unwanted by all the DFO players, AV is hated and unwanted by the DFO players.
We got rid of both and got the masterpiece in the hands of 2 company's who actually have passion for the game, and out of control of the lazy Greeks who have lied to us and back stabbed us over the years.
I realize DF had a cult following, but we are talking a pretty small niche cult. How can there be any logical justification for 3 games in a nearly dead franchise.
The only thing that can happen is that only one survives at all. We all know the UW version is the first to die. But, as to the other two, there simply are barely enough DF followers(at least, remaining followers, after all the crap from the older versions) to sustain even one game.
I understand people liking things about DF, but if you are going to start a game you can't afford to fund yourself and sell founder's packs and junk, you might as well build your own game with similar mechanics. Crowdfunding a new title vs. trying to crowdfund a 7 year-old game that has spurned and spited so many of its followers seems like a no-brainer to me. I think marketing your new IP as a "spiritual successor to Darkfall's gameplay" would be alot more successful than keeping the same urine-stained title.
...DF has been around since 2009. you had to buy the game and pay a premium subscription then. everything that players accumulated and built was wiped in 2012.
Then you had to go and buy Unholy Wars AND pay a subscription.....and now everything that people have accumulated and built will be wiped.
now you get to BUY a "founders pack" for 99$ for beta, and there will probably be a sub once it launches.
....this is just priceless....
i quote you but i think my response is for everyone in this thread:
there are 3 fases..
Alpha:
get the server running.. test minor patches.. ( people @ roa can learn the source code)
THIS FASE IS COMPLETELY FREE FOR EVERYONE WHO HAS A ALPHA KEY
Side note: alpha is a working build from 2012 ( so basicly a working game)
Beta:
hopefully roa feels itself working with the code and make some major content patches to the game
beta requirers no box price.. only a sub for 13 euro a month
Launch:
no box prices only sub fee.. as stated in beta.
why the prices: and founders packers:?
people who wanne support the roa team for the efforts of getting the license deal and working together to get a server runing and taking the risk.
As an old darkfall vet I'm not happy with their pay for alpha pricing. They won't get enough population to get me to play with that price barrier.
Df1/UW were at their best the first few months of launch/na launch when there were players everywhere. Good pvpers like me can farm players instead of AI, farm people gathering mats and doing pve so we don't have to. This only works when there is 1000+ players online.
They won't get enough players for me to play with this payment plan. I don't want DF1 to come back to be the same people dueling/ 20v20 sieges that the game shut down with.
three year old???This game is from 2001,15 years old. These guys must really like the game themselves to want to rehash it,imo they can't possibly do enough to make it worthwhile to anyone other than the original fans of the game. All i see happening is a new window will open to pvp cheating,imo this project is not a good idea but lik i said they must have a real passion for the game to want to bring it back.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
three year old???This game is from 2001,15 years old. These guys must really like the game themselves to want to rehash it,imo they can't possibly do enough to make it worthwhile to anyone other than the original fans of the game. All i see happening is a new window will open to pvp cheating,imo this project is not a good idea but lik i said they must have a real passion for the game to want to bring it back.
I guess those people can continue to dump $50 - $60 for more theme park rehash games they will dislike quit and bad talk for another couple of years. Doesn't bother me ill be playing Darkfall and forget this site and its indecisive community all together
I watched these groups form and battle with AV for the license.
But that isnt whats happening, and yes AV plan to continue Development on UW they are making it Freemium and bla bla bla dont care DF:UW was terrible and unwanted by all the DFO players, AV is hated and unwanted by the DFO players.
We got rid of both and got the masterpiece in the hands of 2 company's who actually have passion for the game, and out of control of the lazy Greeks who have lied to us and back stabbed us over the years.
Gotcha. The people involved aren't a mystery, the community knew who was involved.
I did not know that they had sold 2 licenses, that's crazy.
I've got to disagree with the person who made the comment about only one of these companies succeeding.
I think that's incorrect, I think it's far more likely that all 3 will end up having to close, and if one does survive it'll be the AV version. They're still a large company and they are probably in a far better position to run on a loss for longer, and then hope to take in people from the other two versions after they close up.
That is assuming that either of these other versions is being run a business and not just as fan project that doesn't care about making a profit; which is very possible. Saga of Ryzom is still around I believe, and I don't think that game has ever made that much money.
I watched these groups form and battle with AV for the license.
But that isnt whats happening, and yes AV plan to continue Development on UW they are making it Freemium and bla bla bla dont care DF:UW was terrible and unwanted by all the DFO players, AV is hated and unwanted by the DFO players.
We got rid of both and got the masterpiece in the hands of 2 company's who actually have passion for the game, and out of control of the lazy Greeks who have lied to us and back stabbed us over the years.
Gotcha. The people involved aren't a mystery, the community knew who was involved.
I did not know that they had sold 2 licenses, that's crazy.
I've got to disagree with the person who made the comment about only one of these companies succeeding.
I think that's incorrect, I think it's far more likely that all 3 will end up having to close, and if one does survive it'll be the AV version. They're still a large company and they are probably in a far better position to run on a loss for longer, and then hope to take in people from the other two versions after they close up.
That is assuming that either of these other versions is being run a business and not just as fan project that doesn't care about making a profit; which is very possible. Saga of Ryzom is still around I believe, and I don't think that game has ever made that much money.
From the Highlighted in bold above, i know for 100% fact you have no clue what you are talking about.
I watched these groups form and battle with AV for the license.
But that isnt whats happening, and yes AV plan to continue Development on UW they are making it Freemium and bla bla bla dont care DF:UW was terrible and unwanted by all the DFO players, AV is hated and unwanted by the DFO players.
We got rid of both and got the masterpiece in the hands of 2 company's who actually have passion for the game, and out of control of the lazy Greeks who have lied to us and back stabbed us over the years.
Gotcha. The people involved aren't a mystery, the community knew who was involved.
I did not know that they had sold 2 licenses, that's crazy.
I've got to disagree with the person who made the comment about only one of these companies succeeding.
I think that's incorrect, I think it's far more likely that all 3 will end up having to close, and if one does survive it'll be the AV version. They're still a large company and they are probably in a far better position to run on a loss for longer, and then hope to take in people from the other two versions after they close up.
That is assuming that either of these other versions is being run a business and not just as fan project that doesn't care about making a profit; which is very possible. Saga of Ryzom is still around I believe, and I don't think that game has ever made that much money.
From the Highlighted in bold above, i know for 100% fact you have no clue what you are talking about.
____________________________________________________________________ Don't know why it formatted the post this way, but I'm responding to what's written above. AV doesn't just make video games. They write tracking software for the Greek navy, as well as other things they can't disclose. I don't know what kind of company you think Adventurine is. They aren't a small company in Greece.
Did you even bother to read up on the company before you made that post?
I watched these groups form and battle with AV for the license.
But that isnt whats happening, and yes AV plan to continue Development on UW they are making it Freemium and bla bla bla dont care DF:UW was terrible and unwanted by all the DFO players, AV is hated and unwanted by the DFO players.
We got rid of both and got the masterpiece in the hands of 2 company's who actually have passion for the game, and out of control of the lazy Greeks who have lied to us and back stabbed us over the years.
Gotcha. The people involved aren't a mystery, the community knew who was involved.
I did not know that they had sold 2 licenses, that's crazy.
I've got to disagree with the person who made the comment about only one of these companies succeeding.
I think that's incorrect, I think it's far more likely that all 3 will end up having to close, and if one does survive it'll be the AV version. They're still a large company and they are probably in a far better position to run on a loss for longer, and then hope to take in people from the other two versions after they close up.
That is assuming that either of these other versions is being run a business and not just as fan project that doesn't care about making a profit; which is very possible. Saga of Ryzom is still around I believe, and I don't think that game has ever made that much money.
From the Highlighted in bold above, i know for 100% fact you have no clue what you are talking about.
____________________________________________________________________ Don't know why it formatted the post this way, but I'm responding to what's written above. AV doesn't just make video games. They write tracking software for the Greek navy, as well as other things they can't disclose. I don't know what kind of company you think Adventurine is. They aren't a small company in Greece.
Did you even bother to read up on the company before you made that post?
Yup and they lost all those contracts years ago when the country when bankrupt last.
I'm not sure how else they're supposed to fund their project, mortgage their homes and go deep in debt?
Milking is when people have no choice in the matter and their wallets are emptied involuntarily. This is not the case here because yes you can wait for release, or choose to help fund something you want to see become reality.
I have no interest in the game personally, but I see nothing wrong with this.
If they couldn't do all that before they bought the rights then they shouldn't have bought the rights. Lol at the $100 buy in, hell lol at the $20 one, Gloria Victus only asks for $10 to get in I gave them more.And how many Darkfall games are there now 3?
I'm unable to find any information on Big Picture Games Ltd outside the Darfall:RoA website, that has nothing more than some pictures of people with a brief description of who they are. According to Adventurine SA website they license technology (game engine) yet this game isn't just an engine, it's all of the assets of the previous two failed darkfall games produced by Adventurine themselves.
Maybe I've just got my tinfoil hat on to tight today, but this looks like a scam by Adventurine to sell the same game a 3rd time. This time through a "community funded project", through way of an Ltd company backed by Adventurine SA.
In otherwords, they're licensing the game to themselves.
Don't like much RoA vision, seems they will stay with the old arena vanilla focused mainly on pvp and nothing esle, they don't have limits to crafting and combat skills, they have global banking and fast traveling promoting nutcups, and also no penalties for ARAC clans or measures to prevent new player kills.
Prefer DnD vision that will be a full sandbox like EVE and will have everything if not more to a complete new experience, a full meaningfull RvR with warfront racial wars, territory control, watchtowers to protect same race citizens and collect taxes, and important a complete localized economy and local banks without fast traveling.
DnD will be more roleplayers friedly where pvp, pve and industry are equally balanced and where even full crafting playstyle is 100% viable avoiding completely pvp.
But is good to have 2 different iterations, at least the old playerbase will have their quasi-vanilla DF in RoA project while some old vets not happy with the old game and EVE/UO players can have a new home in the DnD one.
I'm unable to find any information on Big Picture Games Ltd outside the Darfall:RoA website, that has nothing more than some pictures of people with a brief description of who they are. According to Adventurine SA website they license technology (game engine) yet this game isn't just an engine, it's all of the assets of the previous two failed darkfall games produced by Adventurine themselves.
Maybe I've just got my tinfoil hat on to tight today, but this looks like a scam by Adventurine to sell the same game a 3rd time. This time through a "community funded project", through way of an Ltd company backed by Adventurine SA.
In otherwords, they're licensing the game to themselves.
If Tacos is involved, you're prolly right. Dude is a scam artists to the worst degree.
RoA is cancer.. what people don't seem to realize is that its made by some fanboys that wants DFO back almost as it was. Doomed to fail again further tarnishing the name darkfall for the New Dawn project which dare to actually develop the game.. And now these fanboys want to get paid to put up their private server, because that is what RoA is portraying itself as, just read the interview how vauge the answers are it might aswell be Adventurine answering the questions. Sure I'd play if the free alpha was open for everyone, but most likley forum warriors will get those slots. While their opposition plan to welcome anyone intressted to test, RoA comes off as very unprofessional and closed doors, who knows how things are handeld backstage for these people, they have only contact with eachother online aswell.. arrogance.
RoA is cancer.. what people don't seem to realize is that its made by some fanboys that wants DFO back almost as it was. Doomed to fail again further tarnishing the name darkfall for the New Dawn project which dare to actually develop the game.. And now these fanboys want to get paid to put up their private server, because that is what RoA is portraying itself as, just read the interview how vauge the answers are it might aswell be Adventurine answering the questions. Sure I'd play if the free alpha was open for everyone, but most likley forum warriors will get those slots. While their opposition plan to welcome anyone intressted to test, RoA comes off as very unprofessional and closed doors, who knows how things are handeld backstage for these people, they have only contact with eachother online aswell.. arrogance.
Darkfall failed because of lack of Dev support and development. We all loved DFO 2009-2012, So i guess you are speaking for yourself and a few others.
RoA Forum members shows 1,500 DnD Forum members shows 400
RoA also has 2000+ Signatures for their Alpha sign up
Don't like much RoA vision, seems they will stay with the old arena vanilla focused mainly on pvp and nothing esle, they don't have limits to crafting and combat skills, they have global banking and fast traveling promoting nutcups, and also no penalties for ARAC clans or measures to prevent new player kills.
Prefer DnD vision that will be a full sandbox like EVE and will have everything if not more to a complete new experience, a full meaningfull RvR with warfront racial wars, territory control, watchtowers to protect same race citizens and collect taxes, and important a complete localized economy and local banks without fast traveling.
DnD will be more roleplayers friedly where pvp, pve and industry are equally balanced and where even full crafting playstyle is 100% viable avoiding completely pvp.
But is good to have 2 different iterations, at least the old playerbase will have their quasi-vanilla DF in RoA project while some old vets not happy with the old game and EVE/UO players can have a new home in the DnD one.
I agree. Unfortunately the arena PvP only people outnumber the normal MMO people...that are willing to play Darkfall.
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People dont want the Theme park genre quest hub trinity system anymore either.
But since you are ahead of the curb and know what people want i look forward to seeing your mmorpg development company fire up this year, and you can start making the kinda game us people want.
But they didn't buy the rights, they purchased a license.
This looks very much like a version of what a lot of companies to do avoid paying taxes. Start a new company as a subsidiary, sell the IP to that company, and then license it back to the original company.
Granted that isn't exactly what is happening here, and obviously I have no proof that Adv. isn't licensing the game to themselves. However the fact they would license the entire game to another company so they can release the exact same game ( and this is the exact same game, you can see that in the trailer and information about it from the site) makes absolutely no sense from any business perspective what-so-ever.
No one would do this if they're trying to make money on their product, unless their product isn't making money, they've already sold the same product more than once in the past, and they want to draw in a more capital on the same product yet again.
An Ltd is a perfect shell company.
Yeah I agree, but it doesn't make a founding campaign of a 7 years game any less ridiculous.
(AV were a lazy company they made the only mmorpg worth paying for or playing on the market, then didnt support it/fix it at all) Now they handed off the rubble to 2 Development companys that are fully made up of Darkfall Online fan's.
You name 1 other game that was so inspiring, addictive, and has such a massive cult following that even 1 group of fans got together to make a company to bring it back (Not a EMU)?
Yeah you cant, because everything on the market is complete Trash and has been since before 2009.
How can you be sure that the "group of fans" isn't really just AV licensing the game to themselves. They already sold the same game twice already, no one is going to buy it a 3rd time if it was being sold by AV again.
You just said pretty much the same thing that AV said when they announced they were redeveloping DF and releasing a new game.
How does this not throw up a red flag for you? Edit: Is AV planning to phase out their version of DF when this one releases? Or are they planning to keep it running? Does this not seem the least bit odd that a company would allow another version of their game to be released that is going to compete with the same core group of players as their own game? How does this make any sense. Would you not think something was strange if Blizzard announced they had licensed WoW to a group of guys who would be releasing the exact same game, even while Blizzard intended to keep WoW running for themselves? From a business perspective, this would be considered suicide. This makes absolutely no sense unless AV intends to shut down their version of DF, or Big Picture Games is a shell company for AV to try and sell the same game for a 3rd time under the guise of it being a new game.
I watched these groups form and battle with AV for the license.
But that isnt whats happening, and yes AV plan to continue Development on UW they are making it Freemium and bla bla bla dont care DF:UW was terrible and unwanted by all the DFO players, AV is hated and unwanted by the DFO players.
We got rid of both and got the masterpiece in the hands of 2 company's who actually have passion for the game, and out of control of the lazy Greeks who have lied to us and back stabbed us over the years.
The only thing that can happen is that only one survives at all. We all know the UW version is the first to die. But, as to the other two, there simply are barely enough DF followers(at least, remaining followers, after all the crap from the older versions) to sustain even one game.
I understand people liking things about DF, but if you are going to start a game you can't afford to fund yourself and sell founder's packs and junk, you might as well build your own game with similar mechanics. Crowdfunding a new title vs. trying to crowdfund a 7 year-old game that has spurned and spited so many of its followers seems like a no-brainer to me. I think marketing your new IP as a "spiritual successor to Darkfall's gameplay" would be alot more successful than keeping the same urine-stained title.
Frankly, none of it makes any sense to me.
i quote you but i think my response is for everyone in this thread:
there are 3 fases..
Alpha:
get the server running.. test minor patches.. ( people @ roa can learn the source code)
THIS FASE IS COMPLETELY FREE FOR EVERYONE WHO HAS A ALPHA KEY
Side note: alpha is a working build from 2012 ( so basicly a working game)
Beta:
hopefully roa feels itself working with the code and make some major content patches to the game
beta requirers no box price.. only a sub for 13 euro a month
Launch:
no box prices only sub fee.. as stated in beta.
why the prices: and founders packers:?
people who wanne support the roa team for the efforts of getting the license deal and working together to get a server runing and taking the risk.
nothing more nothing less
Df1/UW were at their best the first few months of launch/na launch when there were players everywhere. Good pvpers like me can farm players instead of AI, farm people gathering mats and doing pve so we don't have to. This only works when there is 1000+ players online.
They won't get enough players for me to play with this payment plan. I don't want DF1 to come back to be the same people dueling/ 20v20 sieges that the game shut down with.
These guys must really like the game themselves to want to rehash it,imo they can't possibly do enough to make it worthwhile to anyone other than the original fans of the game.
All i see happening is a new window will open to pvp cheating,imo this project is not a good idea but lik i said they must have a real passion for the game to want to bring it back.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
Doesn't bother me ill be playing Darkfall and forget this site and its indecisive community all together
Gotcha. The people involved aren't a mystery, the community knew who was involved.
I did not know that they had sold 2 licenses, that's crazy.
I've got to disagree with the person who made the comment about only one of these companies succeeding.
I think that's incorrect, I think it's far more likely that all 3 will end up having to close, and if one does survive it'll be the AV version. They're still a large company and they are probably in a far better position to run on a loss for longer, and then hope to take in people from the other two versions after they close up.
That is assuming that either of these other versions is being run a business and not just as fan project that doesn't care about making a profit; which is very possible. Saga of Ryzom is still around I believe, and I don't think that game has ever made that much money.
Gotcha. The people involved aren't a mystery, the community knew who was involved.
I did not know that they had sold 2 licenses, that's crazy.
I've got to disagree with the person who made the comment about only one of these companies succeeding.
I think that's incorrect, I think it's far more likely that all 3 will end up having to close, and if one does survive it'll be the AV version. They're still a large company and they are probably in a far better position to run on a loss for longer, and then hope to take in people from the other two versions after they close up.
That is assuming that either of these other versions is being run a business and not just as fan project that doesn't care about making a profit; which is very possible. Saga of Ryzom is still around I believe, and I don't think that game has ever made that much money.
From the Highlighted in bold above, i know for 100% fact you have no clue what you are talking about.
____________________________________________________________________
Don't know why it formatted the post this way, but I'm responding to what's written above.
AV doesn't just make video games.
They write tracking software for the Greek navy, as well as other things they can't disclose. I don't know what kind of company you think Adventurine is. They aren't a small company in Greece.
Did you even bother to read up on the company before you made that post?
Yup and they lost all those contracts years ago when the country when bankrupt last.
The information you are using is dated back around 2008-2009
http://aventurine.gr/about/research.html
They have since lost all of those contracts (One of the reasons Tasos left)
If they couldn't do all that before they bought the rights then they shouldn't have bought the rights. Lol at the $100 buy in, hell lol at the $20 one, Gloria Victus only asks for $10 to get in I gave them more.And how many Darkfall games are there now 3?
I wouldn't put it past them.
Prefer DnD vision that will be a full sandbox like EVE and will have everything if not more to a complete new experience, a full meaningfull RvR with warfront racial wars, territory control, watchtowers to protect same race citizens and collect taxes, and important a complete localized economy and local banks without fast traveling.
DnD will be more roleplayers friedly where pvp, pve and industry are equally balanced and where even full crafting playstyle is 100% viable avoiding completely pvp.
But is good to have 2 different iterations, at least the old playerbase will have their quasi-vanilla DF in RoA project while some old vets not happy with the old game and EVE/UO players can have a new home in the DnD one.
Crowfall - LiF: MMO - Darkfall: New Dawn
If Tacos is involved, you're prolly right. Dude is a scam artists to the worst degree.
We all loved DFO 2009-2012, So i guess you are speaking for yourself and a few others.
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