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Graveblade
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I have been looking for an mmorpg lately, particularly one with some decent pvp with a western fantasy theme (preferably not anime or with really exaggerated animations etc but sometimes gotta put up with it anyway)...
...Where are they?
It seems to me practically every mmorpg out there is incomplete in some way, lack in certain areas or have questionable design choices with regard to mmorpgs with some good pvp. These choices seem to cause very unbalanced reviews, very up and down. Currently looking forward to Camelot Unchained, Crowfall and the new Darkfall with a hope they will be fun. Still though these may very well not be AAA quality mmorpg's.
I still believe there is potential for some great mmorpg's to be released. There probably needs to be a bit of a Paradigm shift. Something more innovative that is fun and not just a gimmick or a system that will gain players but then also alienate a lot of others.
Perhaps in fact.... There needs to be a lot more good psychologists who work in the gaming industry, who also have a strong background in gaming to actually help create a game that is fun and not gimmicky or one with systems that might alienate people, a AAA good mmorpg. I get the impression that a lot of companies create an mmorpg with some features they believe will be very innovative and will bring in lots of players, but in reality to the majority it is really just a gimmick. It is like the delusion of a programmer who thinks far too systematically for their own good which results in a system being created that while perhaps very clever and/or innovative, is not actually all that fun.
...Where are they?
It seems to me practically every mmorpg out there is incomplete in some way, lack in certain areas or have questionable design choices with regard to mmorpgs with some good pvp. These choices seem to cause very unbalanced reviews, very up and down. Currently looking forward to Camelot Unchained, Crowfall and the new Darkfall with a hope they will be fun. Still though these may very well not be AAA quality mmorpg's.
I still believe there is potential for some great mmorpg's to be released. There probably needs to be a bit of a Paradigm shift. Something more innovative that is fun and not just a gimmick or a system that will gain players but then also alienate a lot of others.
Perhaps in fact.... There needs to be a lot more good psychologists who work in the gaming industry, who also have a strong background in gaming to actually help create a game that is fun and not gimmicky or one with systems that might alienate people, a AAA good mmorpg. I get the impression that a lot of companies create an mmorpg with some features they believe will be very innovative and will bring in lots of players, but in reality to the majority it is really just a gimmick. It is like the delusion of a programmer who thinks far too systematically for their own good which results in a system being created that while perhaps very clever and/or innovative, is not actually all that fun.
Started playing mmorpg's in 1996 and have been hooked ever since. It began with Kingdom of Drakkar, Ultima Online, Everquest, DAoC, WoW...
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As far as programmers literally being hard-coded into their line of work, I'd rather be a farmer. I'd rather have two tractors and some crops and everyone in town will call me Dickfarmer Dan
No fate but what we make, so make me a ham sandwich please.
The problem is that Blizzard only releases a month worth of content every year.
"True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde
"I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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Mmorpg's are definitely for me otherwise I wouldn't still be playing them, I have been since 1996. Quite simply because virtual worlds have always interested me a great deal and love rpg's. It is quite evident that a lot of other people out there are also waiting on something which fits their taste. Especially for people who like western fantasy themed mmorpgs with some good pvp.
So i've basically been bitter and lost since 2012.
But not everyone enjoys space sci-fi and space sci-fi themes enough to want to dedicate the amount of time and effort it takes to excel at EVE. We want a western medieval fantasy world to play in.
Nothing else coming now that Revival is canceled i doubt Elyria is going to scratch the itch.
I'll have to read more about Darkfall. But if it doesn't have enough meaningful consequences for pking, the wolves will dominate it just like they always do.
But the pvp is bar none the best pvp in any game period
I read about it on Wikipedia, and it does sound very interesting. I wonder if they have explored the idea of allowing players to create support characters that mainly play support roles such as building, repairing, crafting, gathering resources, and healing (etc.), but who would still have to engage in combat if encountered by AI mobs or attempt to flee. (I suppose they usually wouldn't wander into the wilderness alone or without more combat-geared player-characters guarding them.) Killing these non-combatant types of player characters could carry a much higher penalty, such as instantly moving the offending player's character to red (evil alignment).
I don't think they need good psychologists. I'm not a psychologist, and I've played online games long enough to understand online social interaction dynamics between players. What they need to do is play their own games until they understand it themselves. Or to ask smart, reasonable, thoughtful veteran players to explain it to them. We don't need better graphics, we need better underlying systems so that an open PVP/PVE MMORPG world is viable and fun for everyone, beginners and veterans alike.
I personally will return to WOW for few months for Legion expansion ......in waiting of Conan Exile MMORPG survival
skiped the panda release because it looked like crap, skiped also the release of the lastest exp
but 5 days ago i have buy the base game ( 20$ ) with the exp for 7$, spend 15$ for a months and im HAVING A BLAST, that realy fun and amazing, the graphic are realy better, the gameplay good and the fact you can own a castle ect realy fun, im enjoying my time spend alot curently, i dont know how long it will last but for like 40 $ im sure it will last a couple months, more that many game i spend usualy for these alpha key or beta key or other crap.....
if you not sure or did not play wow since many year or time, do yourself a favor and try it again, that not the most playeds mmorpg for nothing, blizzard make good games and the last exp realy good, legion close too so you can switch realy fast to the others games and keep playings!!
also if you buy raenor exp you get a character auto at lvl 90 ( right at the start of the exp ) realy worth it
i was like totaly bored of all these new games and realy a wow hater since some year... and im enjoying wow again.
Not sure I trust Funcom after playing Secret World (and getting horribly bored in the first zone, barely making it to the second, then quitting). But I read what limited information currently available about it. Again, PKing must have meaningful consequences or the wolves will dominate. Ultima Online already proved that once and for all.
*Actually, I wouldn't play Conan Exiles. The possibility of human sacrifice committed using player characters in a game doesn't appeal to me. Human sacrifice doesn't appeal to me in general.