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The future of MMOs are non-MMOs?

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  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    Arakazi said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    what I am perplexed about is if the term MMO is a dying one then why are gaming like The Division and Destiny wanting to be classified as one?
    The Division calls itself an online RPG not an MMO and Destiny calls itself a persistant online first person action game. Nowhere did either publisher claim that either game is an MMO. If you go to the official sites nowhere will you see the word MMO.
    that is not what the other OP post says I will get it for reference as well as multiple media outlets refering to Destiny as an MMO. It might take me awhile so paitence please.

    Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.

    Please do not respond to me

  • ArakaziArakazi Member UncommonPosts: 911
    Arakazi said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    what I am perplexed about is if the term MMO is a dying one then why are gaming like The Division and Destiny wanting to be classified as one?
    The Division calls itself an online RPG not an MMO and Destiny calls itself a persistant online first person action game. Nowhere did either publisher claim that either game is an MMO. If you go to the official sites nowhere will you see the word MMO.
    that is not what the other OP post says I will get it for reference as well as multiple media outlets refering to Destiny as an MMO. It might take me awhile so paitence please.

    http://kotaku.com/5984863/bungie-reveals-its-destiny-in-this-documentary


  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    Arakazi said:
    Arakazi said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    what I am perplexed about is if the term MMO is a dying one then why are gaming like The Division and Destiny wanting to be classified as one?
    The Division calls itself an online RPG not an MMO and Destiny calls itself a persistant online first person action game. Nowhere did either publisher claim that either game is an MMO. If you go to the official sites nowhere will you see the word MMO.
    that is not what the other OP post says I will get it for reference as well as multiple media outlets refering to Destiny as an MMO. It might take me awhile so paitence please.

    http://kotaku.com/5984863/bungie-reveals-its-destiny-in-this-documentary


    narisseldon said:

    'More interestingly, some websites love to call them MMOs. They are classified as MMOTPS here on MMORPG.com. The dev said the division is a MMO, while Bungie said Destiny is not .. but PCGamer said that it is. I suppose some here will blow a gasket seeing that they are classified as MMOTPS. For the purpose of this topic, let's just call them MMO-hybrids (though I don't mind if someone want to debate definitions AGAIN).'

    How the Division works as an MMO:

    'buy this 3rd person MMO'

    MMO in game description:

    'I think this article is saying that The Division is MORE like an MMO than Destiny'

    'IS an MMO' stated as a fact in the article
    http://gamerant.com/ubisoft-confirms-the-division-rainbow-six-siege-for-2015/

    I can provide more links but its turning into work is this enough? I think the most compelling article is the last one. and yes..I scanned mostly

    Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.

    Please do not respond to me

  • Tasslehoff35Tasslehoff35 Member UncommonPosts: 962
    edited March 2016
    SEANMCAD said:
    what I am perplexed about is if the term MMO is a dying one then why are gaming like The Division and Destiny wanting to be classified as one?
    They aren't.  Now we know you have a serious issue when it comes to The Division you even admitted it yesterday.  But the truth which you clearly are not here to discuss and is actually a topic you spent spamming months ago and clearly are trying to hijack this thread about IS The Division is not being called an MMO by its developed.  Only people who have an awkward, weird, sick obsession are trying to make that inaccurate claim.  Since you admitted yesterday about your awkward, weird, sick obsession with The Division it's safe to say any point/comment you make  or thread you try to hijack it's should be made crystal clear where you stand and that you have an disturbing agenda toward a VIDEO GAME you DONT PLAY.  Yeah we know it's scary a 50 year old would act like this FOR MONTHS but here it is in writing.

     SEANMCAD said:
    ---"A game I have this awkward, weird, sick obsession with is only popular because of marketing."
    seems reasonable yes. and I have given details as to why


  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    edited March 2016
    SEANMCAD said:
    what I am perplexed about is if the term MMO is a dying one then why are gaming like The Division and Destiny wanting to be classified as one?
    They aren't.  Now we know you have a serious issue when it comes to The Division you even admitted it yesterday.  But the truth which you clearly are not here to discuss and is actually a topic you spent spamming months ago and clearly are trying to hijack this thread about IS The Division is not being called an MMO by its developed.  Only people who have an awkward, weird, sick obsession are trying to make that inaccurate claim.  Since you admitted yesterday about your awkward, weird, sick obsession with The Division it's safe to say any point/comment you make  or thread you try to hijack it's should be made crystal clear where you stand and that you have some an agenda toward a VIDEO GAME you DONT PLAY.  Yeah we know it's scary a 50 year old would act like this FOR MONTHS but here it is in writing.

     SEANMCAD said:
    ---"A game I have this awkward, weird, sick obsession with is only popular because of marketing."
    seems reasonable yes. and I have given details as to why


    but read the 5 links above your post that i posted and narisseldon having created a post in which his OP says that the developers are calling The Division an MMO?

    i mean if you are right then what is this entire thread about?

    Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.

    Please do not respond to me

  • Tasslehoff35Tasslehoff35 Member UncommonPosts: 962
    edited March 2016
    SEANMCAD said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    what I am perplexed about is if the term MMO is a dying one then why are gaming like The Division and Destiny wanting to be classified as one?
    They aren't.  Now we know you have a serious issue when it comes to The Division you even admitted it yesterday.  But the truth which you clearly are not here to discuss and is actually a topic you spent spamming months ago and clearly are trying to hijack this thread about IS The Division is not being called an MMO by its developed.  Only people who have an awkward, weird, sick obsession are trying to make that inaccurate claim.  Since you admitted yesterday about your awkward, weird, sick obsession with The Division it's safe to say any point/comment you make  or thread you try to hijack it's should be made crystal clear where you stand and that you have some an agenda toward a VIDEO GAME you DONT PLAY.  Yeah we know it's scary a 50 year old would act like this FOR MONTHS but here it is in writing.

     SEANMCAD said:
    ---"A game I have this awkward, weird, sick obsession with is only popular because of marketing."
    seems reasonable yes. and I have given details as to why


    but read the 5 links above your post that i posted and narisseldon having created a post in which his OP says that the developers are calling The Division an MMO?

    i mean if you are right then what is this entire thread about?
    None of those links the Developers are saying "The Division is an mmorpg". They claim it may have mmo elements which it does, but they never claim it to be an mmorpg.  It's a tatical, third person cover based shooter with mmo elements. 

    Btw those are the same 5 links you are spamming you spammed two months ago.  [mod edit]
    Post edited by Vaross on
  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    SEANMCAD said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    what I am perplexed about is if the term MMO is a dying one then why are gaming like The Division and Destiny wanting to be classified as one?
    They aren't.  Now we know you have a serious issue when it comes to The Division you even admitted it yesterday.  But the truth which you clearly are not here to discuss and is actually a topic you spent spamming months ago and clearly are trying to hijack this thread about IS The Division is not being called an MMO by its developed.  Only people who have an awkward, weird, sick obsession are trying to make that inaccurate claim.  Since you admitted yesterday about your awkward, weird, sick obsession with The Division it's safe to say any point/comment you make  or thread you try to hijack it's should be made crystal clear where you stand and that you have some an agenda toward a VIDEO GAME you DONT PLAY.  Yeah we know it's scary a 50 year old would act like this FOR MONTHS but here it is in writing.

     SEANMCAD said:
    ---"A game I have this awkward, weird, sick obsession with is only popular because of marketing."
    seems reasonable yes. and I have given details as to why


    but read the 5 links above your post that i posted and narisseldon having created a post in which his OP says that the developers are calling The Division an MMO?

    i mean if you are right then what is this entire thread about?
    None of those links the Developers are saying "The Division is an mmorpg". They claim it may have mmo elements which it does, but they never claim it to be an mmorpg.  It's a tatical, third person cover based shooter with mmo elements. 
    so again..

    1. 'what is this entire thread about'?

    2. are you saying narisseldon thread that he is wrong in his OP when he says '..The dev said the division is a MMO...'


    Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.

    Please do not respond to me

  • Tasslehoff35Tasslehoff35 Member UncommonPosts: 962
    SEANMCAD said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    what I am perplexed about is if the term MMO is a dying one then why are gaming like The Division and Destiny wanting to be classified as one?
    They aren't.  Now we know you have a serious issue when it comes to The Division you even admitted it yesterday.  But the truth which you clearly are not here to discuss and is actually a topic you spent spamming months ago and clearly are trying to hijack this thread about IS The Division is not being called an MMO by its developed.  Only people who have an awkward, weird, sick obsession are trying to make that inaccurate claim.  Since you admitted yesterday about your awkward, weird, sick obsession with The Division it's safe to say any point/comment you make  or thread you try to hijack it's should be made crystal clear where you stand and that you have some an agenda toward a VIDEO GAME you DONT PLAY.  Yeah we know it's scary a 50 year old would act like this FOR MONTHS but here it is in writing.

     SEANMCAD said:
    ---"A game I have this awkward, weird, sick obsession with is only popular because of marketing."
    seems reasonable yes. and I have given details as to why


    but read the 5 links above your post that i posted and narisseldon having created a post in which his OP says that the developers are calling The Division an MMO?

    i mean if you are right then what is this entire thread about?
    None of those links the Developers are saying "The Division is an mmorpg". They claim it may have mmo elements which it does, but they never claim it to be an mmorpg.  It's a tatical, third person cover based shooter with mmo elements. 
    so again..

    1. 'what is this entire thread about'?

    2. are you saying narisseldon thread that he is wrong in his OP when he says '..The dev said the division is a MMO...'


    Yeah about a 1000 people told you two months ago the Devs never called The Division an mmo.  Yes the OP is wrong if that is what he is saying truthfully I think he is just trolling you.  

    Btw it's rather creepy you keep a spreadsheet of links on your desktop of a video game you don't play.  I bet you got all giddy when you saw this thread. 
  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    edited March 2016
    SEANMCAD said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    what I am perplexed about is if the term MMO is a dying one then why are gaming like The Division and Destiny wanting to be classified as one?
    They aren't.  Now we know you have a serious issue when it comes to The Division you even admitted it yesterday.  But the truth which you clearly are not here to discuss and is actually a topic you spent spamming months ago and clearly are trying to hijack this thread about IS The Division is not being called an MMO by its developed.  Only people who have an awkward, weird, sick obsession are trying to make that inaccurate claim.  Since you admitted yesterday about your awkward, weird, sick obsession with The Division it's safe to say any point/comment you make  or thread you try to hijack it's should be made crystal clear where you stand and that you have some an agenda toward a VIDEO GAME you DONT PLAY.  Yeah we know it's scary a 50 year old would act like this FOR MONTHS but here it is in writing.

     SEANMCAD said:
    ---"A game I have this awkward, weird, sick obsession with is only popular because of marketing."
    seems reasonable yes. and I have given details as to why


    but read the 5 links above your post that i posted and narisseldon having created a post in which his OP says that the developers are calling The Division an MMO?

    i mean if you are right then what is this entire thread about?
    None of those links the Developers are saying "The Division is an mmorpg". They claim it may have mmo elements which it does, but they never claim it to be an mmorpg.  It's a tatical, third person cover based shooter with mmo elements. 
    so again..

    1. 'what is this entire thread about'?

    2. are you saying narisseldon thread that he is wrong in his OP when he says '..The dev said the division is a MMO...'


    Yeah about a 1000 people told you two months ago the Devs never called The Division an mmo.  Yes the OP is wrong if that is what he is saying truthfully I think he is just trolling you.  

    Btw it's rather creepy you keep a spreadsheet of links on your desktop of a video game you don't play.  I bet you got all giddy when you saw this thread. 
    good...

    so basically you agree with my core position about The Divsion. that its not an MMO

    Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.

    Please do not respond to me

  • Tasslehoff35Tasslehoff35 Member UncommonPosts: 962
    edited March 2016
    SEANMCAD said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    what I am perplexed about is if the term MMO is a dying one then why are gaming like The Division and Destiny wanting to be classified as one?
    They aren't.  Now we know you have a serious issue when it comes to The Division you even admitted it yesterday.  But the truth which you clearly are not here to discuss and is actually a topic you spent spamming months ago and clearly are trying to hijack this thread about IS The Division is not being called an MMO by its developed.  Only people who have an awkward, weird, sick obsession are trying to make that inaccurate claim.  Since you admitted yesterday about your awkward, weird, sick obsession with The Division it's safe to say any point/comment you make  or thread you try to hijack it's should be made crystal clear where you stand and that you have some an agenda toward a VIDEO GAME you DONT PLAY.  Yeah we know it's scary a 50 year old would act like this FOR MONTHS but here it is in writing.

     SEANMCAD said:
    ---"A game I have this awkward, weird, sick obsession with is only popular because of marketing."
    seems reasonable yes. and I have given details as to why


    but read the 5 links above your post that i posted and narisseldon having created a post in which his OP says that the developers are calling The Division an MMO?

    i mean if you are right then what is this entire thread about?
    None of those links the Developers are saying "The Division is an mmorpg". They claim it may have mmo elements which it does, but they never claim it to be an mmorpg.  It's a tatical, third person cover based shooter with mmo elements. 
    so again..

    1. 'what is this entire thread about'?

    2. are you saying narisseldon thread that he is wrong in his OP when he says '..The dev said the division is a MMO...'


    Yeah about a 1000 people told you two months ago the Devs never called The Division an mmo.  Yes the OP is wrong if that is what he is saying truthfully I think he is just trolling you.  

    Btw it's rather creepy you keep a spreadsheet of links on your desktop of a video game you don't play.  I bet you got all giddy when you saw this thread. 
    did they tell me but not the OP of one of the longest standing threads as of late? (narisseldon)

    here is the thing. If you are right then what is this thread about? I am asking you a point blank question I would like an answer please
    I told you he is trolling you.  He knows just like everyone on this site how giddy you would get on this topic.  

    But for fun let's dissect the title.  

    The future of mmos is non-mmos

    clearly he is saying games like The Division and Destiny are non-mmos which he is correct.  But they do have mmo elements and the majority of players may rather play hybrid games like the division and destiny then play full blown mmos.

    Now just to continue this walkthrough with you just because some poster on a random website that gets about .00001 of actual gamers makes a post you can't understand doesn't mean his post is accurate or factual.  Remember that as you spend the rest the time you have here. 
  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    SEANMCAD said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    what I am perplexed about is if the term MMO is a dying one then why are gaming like The Division and Destiny wanting to be classified as one?
    They aren't.  Now we know you have a serious issue when it comes to The Division you even admitted it yesterday.  But the truth which you clearly are not here to discuss and is actually a topic you spent spamming months ago and clearly are trying to hijack this thread about IS The Division is not being called an MMO by its developed.  Only people who have an awkward, weird, sick obsession are trying to make that inaccurate claim.  Since you admitted yesterday about your awkward, weird, sick obsession with The Division it's safe to say any point/comment you make  or thread you try to hijack it's should be made crystal clear where you stand and that you have some an agenda toward a VIDEO GAME you DONT PLAY.  Yeah we know it's scary a 50 year old would act like this FOR MONTHS but here it is in writing.

     SEANMCAD said:
    ---"A game I have this awkward, weird, sick obsession with is only popular because of marketing."
    seems reasonable yes. and I have given details as to why


    but read the 5 links above your post that i posted and narisseldon having created a post in which his OP says that the developers are calling The Division an MMO?

    i mean if you are right then what is this entire thread about?
    None of those links the Developers are saying "The Division is an mmorpg". They claim it may have mmo elements which it does, but they never claim it to be an mmorpg.  It's a tatical, third person cover based shooter with mmo elements. 
    so again..

    1. 'what is this entire thread about'?

    2. are you saying narisseldon thread that he is wrong in his OP when he says '..The dev said the division is a MMO...'


    Yeah about a 1000 people told you two months ago the Devs never called The Division an mmo.  Yes the OP is wrong if that is what he is saying truthfully I think he is just trolling you.  

    Btw it's rather creepy you keep a spreadsheet of links on your desktop of a video game you don't play.  I bet you got all giddy when you saw this thread. 
    did they tell me but not the OP of one of the longest standing threads as of late? (narisseldon)

    here is the thing. If you are right then what is this thread about? I am asking you a point blank question I would like an answer please
    I told you he is trolling you.  He knows just like everyone on this site how giddy you would get on this topic.  

    But for fun let's dissect the title.  

    The future of mmos is non-mmos

    clearly he is saying games like The Division and Destiny are non-mmos which he is correct.  But they do have mmo elements and the majority of players may rather play hybrid games like the division and destiny then play full blown mmos.

    Now just to continue this walkthrough with you just because some poster on a random website that gets about .00001 of actual gamers makes a post you can't understand doesn't mean his post is accurate or factual.  Remember that as you spend the rest the time you have here. 
    great! this is fantastic news because on this topic you and I are allies. we agree on something.

    The Division is not an MMO. 

    and what motovates me the most to talk about The Division other than your posts is the claim that it is an MMO. so that is good. weight off my back for sure!

    Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.

    Please do not respond to me

  • Tasslehoff35Tasslehoff35 Member UncommonPosts: 962
    edited March 2016
    SEANMCAD said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    what I am perplexed about is if the term MMO is a dying one then why are gaming like The Division and Destiny wanting to be classified as one?
    They aren't.  Now we know you have a serious issue when it comes to The Division you even admitted it yesterday.  But the truth which you clearly are not here to discuss and is actually a topic you spent spamming months ago and clearly are trying to hijack this thread about IS The Division is not being called an MMO by its developed.  Only people who have an awkward, weird, sick obsession are trying to make that inaccurate claim.  Since you admitted yesterday about your awkward, weird, sick obsession with The Division it's safe to say any point/comment you make  or thread you try to hijack it's should be made crystal clear where you stand and that you have some an agenda toward a VIDEO GAME you DONT PLAY.  Yeah we know it's scary a 50 year old would act like this FOR MONTHS but here it is in writing.

     SEANMCAD said:
    ---"A game I have this awkward, weird, sick obsession with is only popular because of marketing."
    seems reasonable yes. and I have given details as to why


    but read the 5 links above your post that i posted and narisseldon having created a post in which his OP says that the developers are calling The Division an MMO?

    i mean if you are right then what is this entire thread about?
    None of those links the Developers are saying "The Division is an mmorpg". They claim it may have mmo elements which it does, but they never claim it to be an mmorpg.  It's a tatical, third person cover based shooter with mmo elements. 
    so again..

    1. 'what is this entire thread about'?

    2. are you saying narisseldon thread that he is wrong in his OP when he says '..The dev said the division is a MMO...'


    Yeah about a 1000 people told you two months ago the Devs never called The Division an mmo.  Yes the OP is wrong if that is what he is saying truthfully I think he is just trolling you.  

    Btw it's rather creepy you keep a spreadsheet of links on your desktop of a video game you don't play.  I bet you got all giddy when you saw this thread. 
    did they tell me but not the OP of one of the longest standing threads as of late? (narisseldon)

    here is the thing. If you are right then what is this thread about? I am asking you a point blank question I would like an answer please
    I told you he is trolling you.  He knows just like everyone on this site how giddy you would get on this topic.  

    But for fun let's dissect the title.  

    The future of mmos is non-mmos

    clearly he is saying games like The Division and Destiny are non-mmos which he is correct.  But they do have mmo elements and the majority of players may rather play hybrid games like the division and destiny then play full blown mmos.

    Now just to continue this walkthrough with you just because some poster on a random website that gets about .00001 of actual gamers makes a post you can't understand doesn't mean his post is accurate or factual.  Remember that as you spend the rest the time you have here. 
    great! this is fantastic news because on this topic you and I are allies. we agree on something.

    The Division is not an MMO. 

    and what motovates me the most to talk about The Division other than your posts is the claim that it is an MMO. so that is good. weight off my back for sure!
    The developed never claimed it to be a mmo.  [mod edit]
    Post edited by Vaross on
  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    SEANMCAD said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    what I am perplexed about is if the term MMO is a dying one then why are gaming like The Division and Destiny wanting to be classified as one?
    They aren't.  Now we know you have a serious issue when it comes to The Division you even admitted it yesterday.  But the truth which you clearly are not here to discuss and is actually a topic you spent spamming months ago and clearly are trying to hijack this thread about IS The Division is not being called an MMO by its developed.  Only people who have an awkward, weird, sick obsession are trying to make that inaccurate claim.  Since you admitted yesterday about your awkward, weird, sick obsession with The Division it's safe to say any point/comment you make  or thread you try to hijack it's should be made crystal clear where you stand and that you have some an agenda toward a VIDEO GAME you DONT PLAY.  Yeah we know it's scary a 50 year old would act like this FOR MONTHS but here it is in writing.

     SEANMCAD said:
    ---"A game I have this awkward, weird, sick obsession with is only popular because of marketing."
    seems reasonable yes. and I have given details as to why


    but read the 5 links above your post that i posted and narisseldon having created a post in which his OP says that the developers are calling The Division an MMO?

    i mean if you are right then what is this entire thread about?
    None of those links the Developers are saying "The Division is an mmorpg". They claim it may have mmo elements which it does, but they never claim it to be an mmorpg.  It's a tatical, third person cover based shooter with mmo elements. 
    so again..

    1. 'what is this entire thread about'?

    2. are you saying narisseldon thread that he is wrong in his OP when he says '..The dev said the division is a MMO...'


    Yeah about a 1000 people told you two months ago the Devs never called The Division an mmo.  Yes the OP is wrong if that is what he is saying truthfully I think he is just trolling you.  

    Btw it's rather creepy you keep a spreadsheet of links on your desktop of a video game you don't play.  I bet you got all giddy when you saw this thread. 
    did they tell me but not the OP of one of the longest standing threads as of late? (narisseldon)

    here is the thing. If you are right then what is this thread about? I am asking you a point blank question I would like an answer please
    I told you he is trolling you.  He knows just like everyone on this site how giddy you would get on this topic.  

    But for fun let's dissect the title.  

    The future of mmos is non-mmos

    clearly he is saying games like The Division and Destiny are non-mmos which he is correct.  But they do have mmo elements and the majority of players may rather play hybrid games like the division and destiny then play full blown mmos.

    Now just to continue this walkthrough with you just because some poster on a random website that gets about .00001 of actual gamers makes a post you can't understand doesn't mean his post is accurate or factual.  Remember that as you spend the rest the time you have here. 
    great! this is fantastic news because on this topic you and I are allies. we agree on something.

    The Division is not an MMO. 

    and what motovates me the most to talk about The Division other than your posts is the claim that it is an MMO. so that is good. weight off my back for sure!
    The developed never claimed it to be a mmo.  Your motivation is clearly misguided and rooted in troubled thinking.  I guess that's goes back to your weird, awkward, sick obsession you admitted having towards the Division. 
    are you suggesting that it is an MMO but the developer never said it was? I think that would qualify as a strawman.

    frankly between you and me all I care about is if you think its an MMO regardless of who said what. Because what motovates me the most on talking about The Division other than your posts toward me, is the question of it being an MMO or not.

    Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.

    Please do not respond to me

  • Tasslehoff35Tasslehoff35 Member UncommonPosts: 962
    SEANMCAD said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    what I am perplexed about is if the term MMO is a dying one then why are gaming like The Division and Destiny wanting to be classified as one?
    They aren't.  Now we know you have a serious issue when it comes to The Division you even admitted it yesterday.  But the truth which you clearly are not here to discuss and is actually a topic you spent spamming months ago and clearly are trying to hijack this thread about IS The Division is not being called an MMO by its developed.  Only people who have an awkward, weird, sick obsession are trying to make that inaccurate claim.  Since you admitted yesterday about your awkward, weird, sick obsession with The Division it's safe to say any point/comment you make  or thread you try to hijack it's should be made crystal clear where you stand and that you have some an agenda toward a VIDEO GAME you DONT PLAY.  Yeah we know it's scary a 50 year old would act like this FOR MONTHS but here it is in writing.

     SEANMCAD said:
    ---"A game I have this awkward, weird, sick obsession with is only popular because of marketing."
    seems reasonable yes. and I have given details as to why


    but read the 5 links above your post that i posted and narisseldon having created a post in which his OP says that the developers are calling The Division an MMO?

    i mean if you are right then what is this entire thread about?
    None of those links the Developers are saying "The Division is an mmorpg". They claim it may have mmo elements which it does, but they never claim it to be an mmorpg.  It's a tatical, third person cover based shooter with mmo elements. 
    so again..

    1. 'what is this entire thread about'?

    2. are you saying narisseldon thread that he is wrong in his OP when he says '..The dev said the division is a MMO...'


    Yeah about a 1000 people told you two months ago the Devs never called The Division an mmo.  Yes the OP is wrong if that is what he is saying truthfully I think he is just trolling you.  

    Btw it's rather creepy you keep a spreadsheet of links on your desktop of a video game you don't play.  I bet you got all giddy when you saw this thread. 
    did they tell me but not the OP of one of the longest standing threads as of late? (narisseldon)

    here is the thing. If you are right then what is this thread about? I am asking you a point blank question I would like an answer please
    I told you he is trolling you.  He knows just like everyone on this site how giddy you would get on this topic.  

    But for fun let's dissect the title.  

    The future of mmos is non-mmos

    clearly he is saying games like The Division and Destiny are non-mmos which he is correct.  But they do have mmo elements and the majority of players may rather play hybrid games like the division and destiny then play full blown mmos.

    Now just to continue this walkthrough with you just because some poster on a random website that gets about .00001 of actual gamers makes a post you can't understand doesn't mean his post is accurate or factual.  Remember that as you spend the rest the time you have here. 
    great! this is fantastic news because on this topic you and I are allies. we agree on something.

    The Division is not an MMO. 

    and what motovates me the most to talk about The Division other than your posts is the claim that it is an MMO. so that is good. weight off my back for sure!
    The developed never claimed it to be a mmo.  Your motivation is clearly misguided and rooted in troubled thinking.  I guess that's goes back to your weird, awkward, sick obsession you admitted having towards the Division. 
    are you suggesting that it is an MMO but the developer never said it was? I think that would qualify as a strawman.

    frankly between you and me all I care about is if you think its an MMO regardless of who said what. Because what motovates me the most on talking about The Division other than your posts toward me, is the question of it being an MMO or not.
    Do you not read post you reply to?  I said two months ago and again today it's not an mmo.  It's a third person tactic RPG shooter with mmo elements.  
  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    edited March 2016

    Do you not read post you reply to?  I said two months ago and again today it's not an mmo.  It's a third person tactic RPG shooter with mmo elements.  
    and I say again.

    this is a good thing, we are in agreement you and I on this subject. I agree 100% with what you are saying. in this specific statement:

    ' it's not an mmo.  It's a third person tactic RPG shooter with mmo elements.  '

    I should be even more clear though and say that I also think 7 Days to Die is an RPG game with mmo elements' although the RPG part really isnt the focus

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  • nariusseldonnariusseldon Member EpicPosts: 27,775
    Arakazi said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    what I am perplexed about is if the term MMO is a dying one then why are gaming like The Division and Destiny wanting to be classified as one?
    The Division calls itself an online RPG not an MMO and Destiny calls itself a persistant online first person action game. Nowhere did either publisher claim that either game is an MMO. If you go to the official sites nowhere will you see the word MMO.
    hmm .. have read this? And i quote:

    However, while The Division is an MMO, most your time will be spent with a small group of players. The game is “phased to a group”, when you join someone’s group you’re phased off into their universe, there are no other players present. This isn’t always the case. “There are areas in the game, like dark zones, which are public spaces.” In these public hubs “you’ll see players of different levels.”

    http://www.pcgamesn.com/division/how-division-works-mmo
  • nariusseldonnariusseldon Member EpicPosts: 27,775



    clearly he is saying games like The Division and Destiny are non-mmos which he is correct.  But they do have mmo elements and the majority of players may rather play hybrid games like the division and destiny then play full blown mmos.


    yuppie .. someone can actually read and comprehend.

    One more point you are missing. Websites, devs and the industry can start calling these hybrids MMOs because they are successful.

    So the successful hybrid-mmos today become tomorrow's mmo. 
  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775



    clearly he is saying games like The Division and Destiny are non-mmos which he is correct.  But they do have mmo elements and the majority of players may rather play hybrid games like the division and destiny then play full blown mmos.


    yuppie .. someone can actually read and comprehend.

    One more point you are missing. Websites, devs and the industry can start calling these hybrids MMOs because they are successful.

    So the successful hybrid-mmos today become tomorrow's mmo. 
    so all games that are successful can be called hybird MMOs?

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  • nariusseldonnariusseldon Member EpicPosts: 27,775
    SEANMCAD said:



    clearly he is saying games like The Division and Destiny are non-mmos which he is correct.  But they do have mmo elements and the majority of players may rather play hybrid games like the division and destiny then play full blown mmos.


    yuppie .. someone can actually read and comprehend.

    One more point you are missing. Websites, devs and the industry can start calling these hybrids MMOs because they are successful.

    So the successful hybrid-mmos today become tomorrow's mmo. 
    so all games that are successful can be called hybird MMOs?
    nah .. just the random ones that the MMO industry pick .. like The Division and Destiny, but not Call of Duty.
  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    edited March 2016
    SEANMCAD said:



    clearly he is saying games like The Division and Destiny are non-mmos which he is correct.  But they do have mmo elements and the majority of players may rather play hybrid games like the division and destiny then play full blown mmos.


    yuppie .. someone can actually read and comprehend.

    One more point you are missing. Websites, devs and the industry can start calling these hybrids MMOs because they are successful.

    So the successful hybrid-mmos today become tomorrow's mmo. 
    so all games that are successful can be called hybird MMOs?
    nah .. just the random ones that the MMO industry pick .. like The Division and Destiny, but not Call of Duty.
    Tasslehoff35told me is true.

    that you created this thread just to stir people like me up and make us upset and I might add extremely successful at it.  I have to admit and give credit where credit is due if I and Tasslehoff35 is right. as a side note as an extension his attacks on me would also be doing the same thing given he knew you were, but never the less based on your sentence above I think he is right


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  • CecropiaCecropia Member RarePosts: 3,985
    SEANMCAD said:
    SEANMCAD said:



    clearly he is saying games like The Division and Destiny are non-mmos which he is correct.  But they do have mmo elements and the majority of players may rather play hybrid games like the division and destiny then play full blown mmos.


    yuppie .. someone can actually read and comprehend.

    One more point you are missing. Websites, devs and the industry can start calling these hybrids MMOs because they are successful.

    So the successful hybrid-mmos today become tomorrow's mmo. 
    so all games that are successful can be called hybird MMOs?
    nah .. just the random ones that the MMO industry pick .. like The Division and Destiny, but not Call of Duty.
    Tasslehoff35told me is true.

    that you created this thread to troll people like me and I might add extreemly successful at it.


    He's admitted on several occasions that it's one of his main hobbies believe it or not.

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  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    Cecropia said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    SEANMCAD said:



    clearly he is saying games like The Division and Destiny are non-mmos which he is correct.  But they do have mmo elements and the majority of players may rather play hybrid games like the division and destiny then play full blown mmos.


    yuppie .. someone can actually read and comprehend.

    One more point you are missing. Websites, devs and the industry can start calling these hybrids MMOs because they are successful.

    So the successful hybrid-mmos today become tomorrow's mmo. 
    so all games that are successful can be called hybird MMOs?
    nah .. just the random ones that the MMO industry pick .. like The Division and Destiny, but not Call of Duty.
    Tasslehoff35told me is true.

    that you created this thread to troll people like me and I might add extreemly successful at it.


    He's admitted on several occasions that it's one of his main hobbies believe it or not.
    to be fair he is really good at it.

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  • Tasslehoff35Tasslehoff35 Member UncommonPosts: 962
    SEANMCAD said:
    SEANMCAD said:



    clearly he is saying games like The Division and Destiny are non-mmos which he is correct.  But they do have mmo elements and the majority of players may rather play hybrid games like the division and destiny then play full blown mmos.


    yuppie .. someone can actually read and comprehend.

    One more point you are missing. Websites, devs and the industry can start calling these hybrids MMOs because they are successful.

    So the successful hybrid-mmos today become tomorrow's mmo. 
    so all games that are successful can be called hybird MMOs?
    nah .. just the random ones that the MMO industry pick .. like The Division and Destiny, but not Call of Duty.
    Tasslehoff35told me is true.

    that you created this thread just to stir people like me up and make us upset and I might add extremely successful at it.  I have to admit and give credit where credit is due if I and Tasslehoff35 is right. as a side note as an extension his attacks on me would also be doing the same thing given he knew you were, but never the less based on your sentence above I think he is right


    Seanmcad I have never lied to you.  I've be honest and truthful in all of our conversation of course I was right. 

    Its to not by chance I picked the name of a very cleaver character...
  • SEANMCADSEANMCAD Member EpicPosts: 16,775
    To be fair I think the king of all trolls is this quote:

    David Polfeldt, managing director at Massive, says “We wanted a lighter game than [World of Warcraft]. I’m not calling [The Division] an MMO,” although he’s aware of the similarities


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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975
    Arakazi said:
    SEANMCAD said:
    what I am perplexed about is if the term MMO is a dying one then why are gaming like The Division and Destiny wanting to be classified as one?
    The Division calls itself an online RPG not an MMO and Destiny calls itself a persistant online first person action game. Nowhere did either publisher claim that either game is an MMO. If you go to the official sites nowhere will you see the word MMO.
    hmm .. have read this? And i quote:

    However, while The Division is an MMO, most your time will be spent with a small group of players. The game is “phased to a group”, when you join someone’s group you’re phased off into their universe, there are no other players present. This isn’t always the case. “There are areas in the game, like dark zones, which are public spaces.” In these public hubs “you’ll see players of different levels.”

    http://www.pcgamesn.com/division/how-division-works-mmo
    The key is how many players will you see in the Dark zones.  If it's several hundred, you might just have an MMO on your hands.  If it's 24, not so much.

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