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No MMO can Please Everyone - Eorzea Reborn
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No MMO can Please Everyone - Eorzea Reborn
Victor believes that no MMO, not even FFXIV, can please everyone all of the time. Do you agree?
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I'm glad Square changed their mind about Final Fantasy 11 and now publish monthly updates for it, it's just too unique and amazing to let slip and stagnate.
I could say a lot more about ff14 but in all honestly I don't really care enough to bother anymore.
To those that stuck with it and still play it, I hope you continue to enjoy it. The more mmo titles we have the better because they sure aren't making anymore now.
Kind of not. For 30$ i got way more in FF and for 60$ i got way more value in ESO compared to BDO.
Mind you, i stuck the game out because my buddy really wanted to play and he didn't want to play alone.
Value has EVERYTHING to do with it. Same goes foe every principle we uphold everyday. Without value, your words have no weight.
And written words alone have toppled civilizations. Crushed kings and saved lives. Some quote from some dude.
If you can stomach old school mmo titles instead of everything on a platter theme parks ofc.
http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/index.shtml
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On topic, were loving the game and constant updatse that no matter what ther mmo gives. Were happy with a dev team that actually LISTENS and does NOT make false promises. I especially love getting new subscribers to the game. Everyday we get new people and guess what, they actually stay.
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I know you're trying to bait me and I know why but as I said, I just don't care enough about this game to play along anymore. Again, if you love this game then more power to you.
Chill out hellbound.
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FF XI is a decent game. But, FF XI is NOTHING compared to XIV.
FF XI is like the Jar Jar Binks of FF mmo's. FF XIV got it right in every aspect.
Besides, FF XI is over. Asides from a few updates coming, i never have a reason to go back, especially when FF XIV is wayyy more fun and exciting to play and way more rewarding without a grind.
With wow hitting mainstream success and mobile gaming becoming popular in the mainstream, so many different types of people have joined the gaming community in the past decade. These days, creating games that target specific subsections of the gaming community is the only way to go IMO. The attempts to make an MMO that grabs everyone is just not feasible because so many players have completely different ideas of what makes an MMO and what doesn't.
However I think it also showcases how strong the gaming industry is because of how diverse it is. We will hopefully be able to see a lot of different games aimed at different types of players because the developers have so many different types of target audiences to make games for. This will hopefully allow them to try different things and allow the gaming community as a whole the ability to try a lot of different games that they have never tried before. Whether those are a return to older mechanics or something brand new being developed. Of course the issue that comes with this train of thought is that developers can only make games that make money and the bean counters always get in the way of progress because of their love of the all mighty dollar. I think this will slow it down a bit but won't stop it, especially with crowd funding getting popular.
Time will tell but I thin it's a good thing that no one game will satisfy everyone and I think the industry is stronger for it.
Some wont even get new games unless they do something new that nobody else has done. Some are or have predispositions before getting into a game.
Some hate games they never tried.
People are weird.
I learned to enjoy the good parts of them while ignoring my less favorable parts... which makes me content as an MMO hopper these days, playing all of them a bit casuall...
(grins) i think i am happy with a game, as long as i feel it does not controll my life...
Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)
EQ1, EQ2, SWG, SWTOR, GW, GW2 CoH, CoV, FFXI, WoW, CO, War,TSW and a slew of free trials and beta tests
Now share what you hate about FFXIV, and let's see what we can dig up in the process.
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It's just way too much grind in my opinion. If you just take a look at the game and the history of updates RNG seems to be a huge factor involved with FFXIV and as someone who works 40+ hours a week, I don't have time to deal with RNG systems.
Also unlike a lot of players, the crafting system to me is not fun at all. I don't want a crafting system where endgame crafting has as many skills involved as combat classes.
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RNG will always be around. Just thank your lucky stars it's not BDO's or Destinys RNG system LOL.
Honestly you'd do a better job of bringing people away from BDO, if you just posted positive things about other games without mentioning BDO at all, if that's your goal. Your crusade against BDO in an FFXIV thread just come off as a bit silly if you ask me. To each their own though.
The constant gear grind is a bit annoying (especially playing multiple classes), but it does keep a sense of progression going. Also, they do make the older gear easier to get over time, so it's not like you need to put in 5 years worth of effort just to get anywhere. And, in contrast to certain other MMOs, you only need top level gear if you want to do savage raiding, all the story and other content can be done with lower tier gear.
My biggest issue is still the lack of non-visual character customisation. Yes you can assign a few stat points, cross-class skills (usefulness varies wildly) and even meld some materia now, but there really isn't a choice of what to pick (even if it's not always clear what is actually useful). I guess having known quantities makes things easier to balance, but it would still be nice to able to pick a few passive (and meaningful) talents or something.
Edit: Oh, forgot that Diadem is also a major disappointment. I mean how they possibly thought it was any good, even from a design point of view, is beyond me. That it has exclusive items (mainly crafting related) tied to it is just salt in the wound. Honestly, the game would be instantly better if they just removed it.
So I take it if you can't get the BiS gear there's no point in playing? There, that's why we don't agree. We have different playstyles! Who ever would've thought that 2 different people who've never met could actually like different things? That's kinda the whole point of the article y'know. I don't do something if I don't find it fun. You do something you obviously hate for a pile of pixels that's .0013 better than an easier to get pile of pixels.
You didn't enjoy the game, yet you kept playing(for an understandable reason), and now you're blaming the game. It's understandable you feel like you didn't get your moneys worth, because the game doesn't fit your playstyle. It doesn't mean the game sucks, just means it doesn't give you what you need to enjoy it. Again, the point of the article.
To that I say, "Duh." Glad they've caught up to what most of us understood 15 years ago.
they introduced the "feast" 2 weeks ago and the season is about to start , is competitive PVP , they have been patching and "balancing" it this weeks and 3.26 is introducing more changes.
However i dont like FFXIV pvp , is too "weird" for me , not fast enough nor too slow to be enjoyable , is a in btw , plus my job not being good a it doesnt help
Anyway , FFXIV needs to put something fresh on the table , the same thing over and over gets tiring , we already know what to expect until 4.0 , Void ark in 3.3 (that looks amazing , the new zones look cool to be fair...) , Last part of Alexander in 3.4 , and the last 2 primals of the Warring Triad. 1 on each patch
Hildibrand and Gigi (Vivi 2.0) , more MSQ , moogle tribe quests , new gear sets , new mount , pets
All that is cool but there is nothing that surprise players anymore.... the new implementations on HW failed hard , Diadem and Lords of Vermillion..... Crafting and gathering are boring and frustrating like always. I enjoy raiding and love the MSQ , the dungeons, trials but it lacks innovation ....