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XcronosxXcronosx Member UncommonPosts: 16
in Hardware
Hello guys i need help to decide which one i should buy with some easy and honest answers ty in advance.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127760&cm_re=r9_270x-_-14-127-760-_-Product

or this one 

http://www.neweggbusiness.com/product/product.aspx?item=9b-14-127-935 


Help if u can ty ;)

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  • MeriikMeriik Member UncommonPosts: 60
    According to gpuboss http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-R9-270X-vs-GeForce-GTX-950  It's pretty much a toss up, go with whatever is cheaper. If you want to spend a few extra dollars I'd go with something like the 960 or the 380, both will give you much better performance.  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127878 that's a shell shocker deal right now at 209, 189 after rebate.
  • MalaboogaMalabooga Member UncommonPosts: 2,977
    The best thing to do right now is wait for the new gen GPUs as its just around the corner. Mainstream AMD Polaris GPUs are slated for Q22016 (April-June) and should get much better value than any of these.
  • XcronosxXcronosx Member UncommonPosts: 16
    Guys i live in poor economy country (paycheck average is very small) and one friend offers me these 2 so i can pick one that is why i need some nice opinions about these two cards only. Ty once again
  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,483
    If you're in Serbia as your profile says, then presumably you're not buying from New Egg.  If either is substantially cheaper than the other, then get the cheaper one.  For the same price, the GTX 950 is better.
  • XcronosxXcronosx Member UncommonPosts: 16
    Quizzical u are fast ;) Btw a friend will give me one of those (i worked something for him) so thats why i am asking i just need some thoughts about those two cards :)
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  • MalaboogaMalabooga Member UncommonPosts: 2,977
    edited May 2016
    They are about the same performance wise, NVidia is worse in DX12, that 270x is THE best 270x model. But this is where warranty comes in play, pick one with more warranty left.
    Post edited by Malabooga on
  • BookahBookah Member UncommonPosts: 260
    edited May 2016
    Xcronosx said:
    Hello guys i need help to decide which one i should buy with some easy and honest answers ty in advance.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127760&cm_re=r9_270x-_-14-127-760-_-Product

    or this one 

    http://www.neweggbusiness.com/product/product.aspx?item=9b-14-127-935 


    Help if u can ty ;)
    Perhaps I can help:

    I have a R9 270 and its a fantastic card, cool, quite and plays everything I have thrown at it on Ultra.

    Here is the card I have:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121823

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  • MalaboogaMalabooga Member UncommonPosts: 2,977
    edited May 2016
    bestever said:
    Malabooga said:
    They are about the same performance wise, NVidia is worse in DX12, that 270x is THE best 270x model. But this is when warranty comes in, pick one with longer warranty left.
    270x doesn't support full dx 12 so it would be better to take the 950 gtx as it does.

    http://wccftech.com/amd-confirms-gcn-cards-feature-full-directx-12-support-feature-level-111-gcn-10-feature-level-120-gcn-1112/

    Whole Maxwell series (and Pascal) lack basic DX12.0 features, whats your point?

    bestever said:
    Take the gtx 950. Pretty much on par with the 270x but it has full direct x 12 support.

    Thats a plain lie.

    NO architecture has full DX12 support yet and NVidia cards lack basic DX12 features (like Async Compute). In addition to that, NVidia has shown much worse results in DX12 so far.

  • MalaboogaMalabooga Member UncommonPosts: 2,977
    edited May 2016
    bestever said:
    Malabooga said:
    bestever said:
    Malabooga said:
    They are about the same performance wise, NVidia is worse in DX12, that 270x is THE best 270x model. But this is when warranty comes in, pick one with longer warranty left.
    270x doesn't support full dx 12 so it would be better to take the 950 gtx as it does.

    http://wccftech.com/amd-confirms-gcn-cards-feature-full-directx-12-support-feature-level-111-gcn-10-feature-level-120-gcn-1112/

    Whole Maxwell series (and Pascal) lack basic DX12.0 features, whats your point?

    bestever said:
    Take the gtx 950. Pretty much on par with the 270x but it has full direct x 12 support.

    Thats a plain lie.

    NO architecture has full DX12 support yet and NVidia cards lack basic DX12 features (like Async Compute). In addition to that, NVidia has shown much worse results in DX12 so far.

    Maxwell and pascal don't lack basic dx 12 features. Where you get that crap from? Both those cards lack async computing yes and that is not  a basic feature that is an advanced shader. If it was basic then anything could run it.

    Also not a lie that's whats stated so you can fanboy about it all you want. 270x not even supported by DX 12 when the 950 is.
    Async Compute is basic DX12 feature. Prime feature of DX12 to be precise. EVERY GCN card HAS Async Compute, NO NVidias card has it (they tried to software emulate it with NEGATIVE performance)

    x.1 "feture level" is COMPLETELY irrelevant just as any other x.1/2/3 "feature level" before. Thers total of 1 11.1 game so far that was released not long ago.
  • MalaboogaMalabooga Member UncommonPosts: 2,977
    edited May 2016
    Of course they can "software emluate" it. With a PERFORMANCE LOSS. But now go and ask NVidia WHY Async still hasnt been enabled in drivers after almost a year.

    You are also aware that 12.1 features work on all GPUs right (even if those are largely irrelevant)?
  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,483
    A pure CPU implementation can make arbitrary DirectX or OpenGL code run correctly.  Eventually.  But not fast.  The whole point of asynchronous shading is having different parts of the same GPU doing graphics and compute at the same time so that you can get some compute done "for free" by filling in holes where parts of the GPU wouldn't be used for graphics.  Maxwell can't do that.  Full stop.  Maxwell can do graphics and it can do compute, but not both at the same time.

    That said, I'm not entirely certain that Pitcairn supports asynchronous shading, either.  I think it probably can, but I'm not entirely certain.  What I am certain of, though, is that if you're looking at getting a $130 card, asynchronous shading shouldn't be your top priority.  If you want to care about DirectX 12 at all, then supporting the features to reduce host code overhead are the big thing--and that's supported by all GCN, Kepler, and Maxwell cards.
  • MalaboogaMalabooga Member UncommonPosts: 2,977
    edited May 2016
    GCN 1.0 has 2 ACEs while the rest have 8. All GCN cards benefit from Async Compute. But its not even abot that its about "full DX12 support" which no dGPU has.

    http://developer.amd.com/wordpress/media/2013/06/2620_final.pdf
    http://www.anandtech.com/show/4455/amds-graphics-core-next-preview-amd-architects-for-compute/5

    And your second part is more relevant because for now NVidia cards actually lose performance in DX12 while AMD gains performance. Lack of Async only makes the matter worse on top of that.

    This is a nice interview:

    http://wccftech.com/hitman-lead-dev-dx12-gains-time-ditching-dx11/

    And the question that pops out is how will NVidia perform when DX12(+Async) are even more prevalent than now.



  • maybebakedmaybebaked Member UncommonPosts: 305
    The guy is just asking what video card to buy and you guys turned this into a grand debate. How many DX12 games are even out?
  • xyzercrimexyzercrime Member RarePosts: 878
    maybebaked said:
    The guy is just asking what video card to buy and you guys turned this into a grand debate. How many DX12 games are even out?

    Well, you know, Nvidiaboys and AMDude..



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  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441
    Both kinda sucks. If you can wait and save up a little more to get a 960 card instead you would get a lot more for sum that isn't that much more. The 950 card is a card for really low budget gamers and the AMD card is even worse.

    The GFX card is the single most important thing in a gamers computer and it is usually better to wait a little longer to upgrade then getting something crappy unless your old card died.

    http://www.neweggbusiness.com/product/product.aspx?item=9b-14-487-093 The difference is $35 for a huge increase in performance. Certainly worth another months saving up money if your on a tight budget.
  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,483
    Loke666 said:
    Both kinda sucks. If you can wait and save up a little more to get a 960 card instead you would get a lot more for sum that isn't that much more. The 950 card is a card for really low budget gamers and the AMD card is even worse.

    The GFX card is the single most important thing in a gamers computer and it is usually better to wait a little longer to upgrade then getting something crappy unless your old card died.

    http://www.neweggbusiness.com/product/product.aspx?item=9b-14-487-093 The difference is $35 for a huge increase in performance. Certainly worth another months saving up money if your on a tight budget.
    Except that:

    1)  He lives in Serbia, so he isn't going to buy from New Egg.
    2)  He can't afford to buy a video card at all.
    3)  His friend has two and is offering to let him have one, and he wants to know which one he should take.
  • HrimnirHrimnir Member RarePosts: 2,415
    Seriously wish people would read OP's thread and responses instead of just responding.  Like quiz said, he isn't buying anything, his friend is giving him a choice between two.

    "The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently."

    - Friedrich Nietzsche

  • MalaboogaMalabooga Member UncommonPosts: 2,977
    edited May 2016
    The guy is just asking what video card to buy and you guys turned this into a grand debate. How many DX12 games are even out?
    Pretty much all important games in 2016 will have DX12. And theres 6-7 already out. And some older games will get DX12 too. Yeah, that IS something to consider when you buy GPU.

    The guy is just asking what video card to buy and you guys turned this into a grand debate. How many DX12 games are even out?

    Well, you know, Nvidiaboys and AMDude..
    Pointing out malicious advice that includes debunking lies is worthwhile. People pay good money for their GPUs and have a right to be properly informed what they give money for. And you can see plain lies from certain poster.

    And yes, i will debunk any lies, your whining about it isnt gonna change that.

    The person asking for advice has to consider future performance of his card as he aint getting another one anytime soon.
  • XcronosxXcronosx Member UncommonPosts: 16
    Guys i got gtx 950 thx for some ppl that messaged me with some good review. Thx once again for all that helped and sorry coz this turned into debate. I am pleased with what i have and will enjoy it full potential ;)
    Thx once again
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