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Nostalrius Team Retracts Offer to Release Source Code
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Nostalrius Team Retracts Offer to Release Source Code
Citing themselves as 'ambassadors of a larger movement', the Nostalrius team has announced that they will not be releasing the server's code as they had previously indicated. The decision was made to ensure that when meeting with Blizzard representatives in the near future they would have 'all the chances on [their] side', an admission of sorts that perhaps releasing most of the server's code would be a bad move.
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I'd rather Blizzard improve the game today than go back in time to an earlier version. I enjoyed early WoW a lot, right up until Cata was released. Since then, I think Blizzard has really dropped the ball big time. I'm hoping Legion reverses that trend but I'm not holding my breath.
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I feel pretty comfortable saying that they probably used their bargaining power to benefit themselves. If Blizzard is taking this seriously and has secret intentions to announce some type of legacy system they're going to want to market it on a timeline and turn it into a promotional opportunity. Getting a payday or even hired by Blizz to work on it might be more meaningful to them than playing people's champions.
We'll see, I thought Blizz was serious about not running a legacy system, but it doesn't feel like that's the whole picture right now and I'm wondering if they're really weighing their options to release something.
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Both sides are not seeing that they can financially benefit from working together. Now they need to negotiate. Don't like it? Think the Nost group should just cave in to a corporation? You're a fool if you think that. If you created some thing for a product that someone owns that makes that product better and know that the main company can make money off of would you walk away with no financial benefit from it? No you would do what ever it takes to make money off it, if you think otherwise you are a fool.
Anyone who does not get it.
Our custom anticheat had unique functionalities that allowed us to detect and track any kind of hack / bot in a generic way. We believe the anticheat that we made was able to detect and was able to block all of the known threats, and releasing our code would allow the development of more powerful cheating tools that would be more difficult, if not impossible, to detect. We have spent countless hours to fight people making money from exploits, cheats and traffics: the last thing we want to see now is people getting more money from wow hacks because of us.
Basically they have some Anti chest code that blizzard can use in a game like HOTS or Overwatch. Blizzard could take this code adapt it to their games and financially benefit off it. This is a huge bargaining chip that they could sell to blizzard and adapt it to Overwatch or HOTS or Current WOW or hell the new MMO they might be making that we dont know about. It's like the guy that invented the umbrella for the Golf Cart. He didnt steal the Gold Cart design however he made an improvement that both parties can make money on. It's that simple.
Also a good read about Nostalrius. http://www.buffed.de/World-of-Warcraft-Spiel-42971/News/Nostalrius-Classic-Interview-1194098/2/
You will likely see the Nost group release the code directly to blizzard after there are signed agreements once the negotiations have concluded.
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They claim all they want is vanilla servers, and Blizz has always refused. Now Blizz is finally willing to talk to them after their legal maneuvers to shut them down threatened to go like a hydra sticking it's heads in a blender, going from one renegade to thousands in an instance.
Whether they are doing this for themselves, or for the vanilla community, it's a good move. The real question is what happens after this, and a lot of that hinges on what Blizz does both publicly and behind those closed doors.
Be patient.
On a side note, I'd like to run a wow server for me and my friends to goof around in, but who wouldn't?
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Also not dropping the Nossy source code is the only bargain chip they have. If they do it is bye bye to any chance they have with Blizzard and there would most likely be legal actions taken soon afterward.
This have been a good conversation
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This have been a good conversation
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Communications and/or Negotiations are ongoing.
Nothing more
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https://archive.org/details/softwarelibrary_msdos?&sort=-downloads&page=1
Kyleran: "Now there's the real trick, learning to accept and enjoy a game for what it offers rather than pass on what might be a great playing experience because it lacks a few features you prefer."
John Henry Newman: "A man would do nothing if he waited until he could do it so well that no one could find fault."
FreddyNoNose: "A good game needs no defense; a bad game has no defense." "Easily digested content is just as easily forgotten."
LacedOpium: "So the question that begs to be asked is, if you are not interested in the game mechanics that define the MMORPG genre, then why are you playing an MMORPG?"
Do you seriously believe that Blizzard would not be prosecuting them if they had "pirated" server code?
What they have done is usually referred to as "reverse engineering". Which is legal everywhere as far as I know.
I saw the first post from nos on the boards and the only source code allowed to be released was the script code used for video stuff to help other server hosters of vanilla do some creative stuff. That was it, the main source code is not allowed out lol
So with not reading the post because it sounded absolutely like click bait - They can only be retracting the video source coding for scenes. That is all, so what gets my goat is why the title as it is? Indicating oooo they decided to not release the source code, as semi accurate as that may be its not enough for a valid thread title.
Read over the original posting after the blizzard meet instead I would say, then read over it once more.
*says in Donald Trumps voice* "Hey, you know that thing i stole from you? Well if you don't set me and my buddies over here up with 5 figure salary careers, we're gonna release it to the winds. *scratches underbeard* You don't want that to happen now do ya? I'll expect some dames to be at my beck and call too capiche?"
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Take note of the original letter to the community from April 6th:
Today is also the day where Nostalrius will start being community-driven in the truest sense of the word, as we will be releasing THE SOURCE CODE, and anonymized players data (encrypting personal account data), so the community as a whole will decide the form of the future of Nostalrius. We will still be there in the background if you want us to, but will no longer take the lead.
I stand by the title.
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