Consoles 'Opened Up the Game to Millions of New People'ESO Elder Scrolls Online News - MMORPG.com

SBFord · May 2016

Consoles 'Opened Up the Game to Millions of New People'ESO Elder Scrolls Online News - MMORPG.com

Elder Scrolls Online is a gigantic success according to Zenimax's Matt Firor. Between the transition of the game from a subscription model to a buy to play title and the release of ESO for both XBox One and PlayStation 4, Firor says that the game was opened up to 'millions of new people', later qualifying that statement with 'that's actually new players'.

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Righteous_Rock · May 2016

I play on pc and xb1 , transitioning back over to pc only though at the moment. I notice on console though it is a well populated game. To my surprise too, the open voice chat system did not have a bunch of trolls just yelling obscenities

SavageHorizon · May 2016

Millions is an exaggeration but obviously consoles has given them more players. NWN is still the most played MMO on XB1. Problem with PS4 ESO is there is no chat and even though you make a name for your character no one can see it because all they see is your PSN name.

You would of thought ZeniMax would of sorted this.

Tasslehoff35 · May 2016

SavageHorizon said:

Millions is an exaggeration but obviously consoles has given them more players. NWN is still the most played MMO on XB1. Problem with PS4 ESO is there is no chat and even though you make a name for your character no one can see it because all they see is your PSN name.

You would of thought ZeniMax would of sorted this.

I have been popping into NWN a little bit to level up to 70 this week and it's been pretty crowed on the xb1. DC universe is too but the quest structure is way too frustrating with a lot of other people. Glad to see these games active.

ceratop001 · May 2016

Torval said:

I think this puts to rest the question of how successful the game has been. I think moving beyond the traditional mmo market, which some of my other favorite games have struggled with, was a really smart move on their part.

This is where devs/games like Arena Net and Guild Wars 2 should take note. I think ANet could really make a solid title that would be popular on multiple platforms. Unfortunately they've gone down the more traditional raiding pipeline in HoT, but they have the potential to be big like this.

One of the most exciting things in the article that Firor wouldn't really comment on is the idea that other IPs could eventually follow suit.

You make some really astute observations Torval. From a financial standpoint crossing over to consoles is a no brainer. Purists might find console gaming offensive because gaming PC's are superior machines for the most part. For gaming companies you have to adapt to where the money is lol.

Octagon7711 · May 2016

I bet they counted the people with transferred accounts twice but can't really say as they don't release numbers. So millions, is how many?

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Volgore · May 2016

DMKano said:

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Opened up the game to millions of people - talk about really vague phrasing.

I plan to hold a Mikado world championship in my garage.
As a world championship, it's open up for millions of competitors from allover the world!

Update: Only my neighbour came over. He is now a worldchampion.

IceAge · May 2016

Octagon7711 said:

So millions, is how many?

Millions

rojoArcueid · May 2016

Octagon7711 said:

I bet they counted the people with transferred accounts twice but can't really say as they don't release numbers. So millions, is how many?

While i also think "millions" sounds a little bit too much, i do believe it is quite a lot of people, considering multi platform online games most of the time have less people on PC. It is a smart move to expand to new platforms the games from IPs that were multi platform in the first place. We all benefit from this.

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Distopia · May 2016

rojoArcueid said:

Octagon7711 said:

I bet they counted the people with transferred accounts twice but can't really say as they don't release numbers. So millions, is how many?

While i also think "millions" sounds a little bit too much, i do believe it is quite a lot of people, considering multi platform online games most of the time have less people on PC. It is a smart move to expand to new platforms the games from IPs that were multi platform in the first place. We all benefit from this.

Millions could just mean 2 million TBH...still either way Millions is a good number.

Mikeha · May 2016

Damage control

SlyLoK · May 2016

ESO remains my favorite MMO and I really dont see that changing very soon.

Sunscour · May 2016

I'm really diggin ESO right now..... Happy to hear the game is healthy.

bcbully · May 2016

This is news?

Sid_Vicious · May 2016

unfortunately, right now its all about consoles for most people . ..

Kickaxe · May 2016

Torval said:
It's a little vague out of context but if you read the article it's fairly clear he means that the consoles and Tamriel Unlimited added up to millions of new purchases. He even said new players.

This is big because it could bring a lot of new non-mmo gamers into mmos. This is the sort of thing that could bring mmo gaming into the mainstream especially with the console audience. [emphasis added]

I'm only skimming the article so maybe I'm missing it, but do you have a quote for where he makes this clear --millions of new purchases?

reeereee · May 2016

So they purposely used language that let them count PC players shortly after console launch to say millions. Now they're saying millions of console players.

All this really tells us is they didn't hit two million in console sales in the first month or two but did hit it sometime later in the year.

This doesn't really seem like groundbreaking news.

meonthissite · May 2016

I'm highly critical of teams and their design and I have to say that ESO is one of my top ten games ever. They certainly had a rocky start when they launched for PC only but they have definitely done the time to turn everything around and deserve the credit for it.

The one and only complaint I have for this game is their lack of cross faction support.

They could at the very least for console players allow for cross faction gameplay in their newest of DLC areas such as Orsinium, Thieves Guild, and their upcoming DLC for the Black Hand that way guilds can be multi-faction and not be penalized.
Everything has been done wondefully on the PVE side.

Kickaxe · May 2016

Torval said:

Here is the quote (I emphasized and underlined),

"All told, the combination of Tamriel Unlimited and the console launch, "opened up the game to millions of people."

"That's
actually new players," Firor adds. "It's been huge. Bethesda doesn't
talk numbers, but it's been huge... It was way beyond our expectations,
and it was mostly because players could knew they could buy it just like
they did with Oblivion and Skyrim."

At the risk of being contentious, I'm going to say that's not a clear statement, especially if we take into account publishers and developers tendency to use marketing-speak to suggest great success.

Of course it's surely not hard to believe an excellent game with a highly recognizable ip like ESO is doing quite well, but for me the question is why say 'opened up to millions,' when you mean sold millions of games--or millions of new players purchased the game; something of that sort of language that is absolutely clear. I may be wrong of course (and I won't deny that I'm being a bit of a stickler) but I can't help but feel the answer to that question is because it is likely they did not sell millions.

wireded21 · May 2016

I called it quite a long time ago, I'm and old old PC player, played many an MMO, from DAOC, SWG, Everquest, WWIIOnline, Planetside, Darkfall etc. through to modern MMO's. (Urggh) but I could see that the "next" gen (actually current gen now) consoles were going to blur the boundaries.

The future of MMO's will be console based, eventually most will be built for console and ported to PC.

At first I was like meh... I'll stick to my PC, but now, I have a Xbox One, PS4 and PC and my PC doesn't get a lot of play time any more.

I can choose between Planetside 2, DC Universe, ESO, Elite as well as a healthy catalogue of multiplayer and RPG games, on my sofa, big screen, pick up and play.... it just works.

Phry · May 2016

Kickaxe said:

Torval said:

Here is the quote (I emphasized and underlined),

"All told, the combination of Tamriel Unlimited and the console launch, "opened up the game to millions of people."

"That's
actually new players," Firor adds. "It's been huge. Bethesda doesn't
talk numbers, but it's been huge... It was way beyond our expectations,
and it was mostly because players could knew they could buy it just like
they did with Oblivion and Skyrim."

At the risk of being contentious, I'm going to say that's not a clear statement, especially if we take into account publishers and developers tendency to use marketing-speak to suggest great success.

Of course it's surely not hard to believe an excellent game with a highly recognizable ip like ESO is doing quite well, but for me the question is why say 'opened up to millions,' when you mean sold millions of games--or millions of new players purchased the game; something of that sort of language that is absolutely clear. I may be wrong of course (and I won't deny that I'm being a bit of a stickler) but I can't help but feel the answer to that question is because it is likely they did not sell millions.

Thats probably why he said it has opened up the game to millions of new players, technically any game on the PS4 and XB1 is open to 'millions' of players, it doesn't however mean that they have bought the game. Its also a very vague statement, because it doesn't state how many millions, and if he'd come right out and said, by putting the game on console it opened the game up to 55 million players, nobody would for a moment think that every single console owner now had a copy of ESO, and this is probably also why Zenimax is still not giving out any actual figures, but just 'vague' statements that are open to interpretation, even the whole, they sold more than they expected is not informative, because they didn't state how many they expected to sell, or by what margin this was exceeded.
Is the game doing well? well that depends on who you ask.

Horusra · May 2016

Or he is not allowed to talk specific numbers and uses the best words he can to says millions of new players.

Phry · May 2016

Horusra said:

Or he is not allowed to talk specific numbers and uses the best words he can to says millions of new players.

I don't doubt at all that he isn't allowed to talk specific numbers, which is probably why he used the terminology that he did, its all about PR after all, though one might also say that if there had been millions of actual players, then they would have been shouting it from the rooftops, not using PR doublespeak.

Oziius · May 2016

Two pages of arguing over this lol. VG shows total console sales over 2.5 million and the original pc sales at about .86m. So saying millions of player no matter how vague seems pretty accurate.

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