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GreenChi13 · May 2016

Barf. Talk about a toxic person in the work force. Now trying to sue to make millions. F*ing pathetic.

Bloodaxes · May 2016

Geez...... 3 million is way too much.

ceratop001 · May 2016

We live in strange times that's for sure.

Dahkoht · May 2016

Seems like it's become open season to whine and bitch and being treated exactly how you want to be at all times otherwise break out the signs and protest and sue.

Been called much worse things , and have called others much worse things , at and out of work.

This special little snowflake would break down within 5 mins at what we call each other at our office.

3 million for hurt wittle feelings.

Hope the Valve lawyers bankrupt "it".

Nothing against trans , I am against whiny , thin skinned ,politically correct crap.

GreenChi13 · May 2016

^ Screenshots or it didn't happen!

filmoret · May 2016

We live in a world where people do whatever they want and demand to be respected as a result. When I was younger we laughed at people who did that kind of stuff. Next week i wont be able to laugh at people who molest animals because they will claim to be born that way.

RPGMASTERGAMER · May 2016

the boss say, you will do it and it will do it, he she got concerned and angry and started a lawsuit

honestly that pretty pathetic a lawsuit because the boss aparently say ''it''
maybe the reason everyone was hostile after that was because of what ''he'' ''she'' have done and nothing to do with the ''it''

nowaday you can start million lawsuit about a restaurant not putting enough cofee inside your ice cofee or someone who put a lime in your water...

pretty crazy time

Volgore · May 2016

I wonder if somebody needs a gender change in first place to make these claims a valid point. If so, then it's so to say gender discrimination towards everyone who hasn't had reassignment surgery.

I've been refered to as "it" many times. Never came to my mind to sue someone for 3mio about that.
If this case is successfull, i start to sue people allover the place.

Nayr752 · May 2016

People will do anything to get "rich". lols

Dahkoht · May 2016

filmoret said:

We live in a world where people do whatever they want and demand to be respected as a result. When I was younger we laughed at people who did that kind of stuff. Next week i wont be able to laugh at people who molest animals because they will claim to be born that way.

HEY , you watch it , just because I want to hump a porcupine , that does not give you the right to JUDGE ME!!!

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Volgore · May 2016

This will probably end in an out of court settlement with Valve agreeing to coming to an "undisclosed accommodation".

In over the top political correct times nobody wants especially this sort of publicity.

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Dahkoht · May 2016

Polygon though , is 99% poor thing in the comments and anti-valve. Shocking I know.

I swear I think that place makes Sanders look like a far right wing fascist.

Avanah · May 2016

Dahkoht said:

Seems like it's become open season to whine and bitch and being treated exactly how you want to be at all times otherwise break out the signs and protest and sue.

Been called much worse things , and have called others much worse things , at and out of work.

This special little snowflake would break down within 5 mins at what we call each other at our office.

3 million for hurt wittle feelings.

Hope the Valve lawyers bankrupt "it".

Nothing against trans , I am against whiny , thin skinned ,politically correct crap.

Nothing against Transgender, yet you specify "it" instead of "her". Irony.

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Dahkoht · May 2016

I can answer that Sed.

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Yaevindusk · May 2016

Wonder if this is the whole story and if there is any context.

Though anyone who refers to another human being as "it" -- whether it is true in this case or not -- seriously needs to not be in a position of authority over other human beings. They are supposed to provide a safe and productive work environment, inspiring confidence in their workers.

If there is any truth to her being let go for what was described, I'd say she's entitled to loss of wages as being targeted and losing your job because someone can't accept who you are is appalling . Though when it comes to seeking any type of emotional damages, then she needs to get thicker skin to work in an entertainment / community service. The "it" comment just cements that she was working in a hostile environment and lends credence to her assertions. The law shouldn't care if your feelings were hurt.

With that said, the abuse that transgender people go through is absolutely ludicrous. It's unnerving when you get to know a transgender person of what frequently happens. What you personally see, even if they won't go into details. Personally, one of my ex's was a transgender woman, so I know at least some of the trials and tribulations that she went through.

Graey · May 2016

SedrynTyros said:

There's an interesting angle to this type of situation that hasn't been thoroughly explored yet: if a person changes gender and name while on the job, is that enough of a change to warrant an employer being able to oust them? Legally, they're the same human being, but in some notable ways they're not the same person that was hired by the company.

If somebody I worked with for years as a man started coming into work as a woman, I think that would be a bit awkward and not the easiest adjustment for me to make, especially if I worked closely with that person. That's a pretty big change. Am I to blame for being uncomfortable around them?

At what point is a change to a person's body unreasonable enough for an employer to be able to safely draw the line. What if I realize tomorrow that deep inside I always wanted my genitals to be hanging off my chin? Should I be able to surgically graft my junk under my jaw and just expect everyone else at work to deal with that? There has to be a point when people who make changes to their own body take responsible for the consequences.

I find the last paragraph really funny. You know I wonder do women or men take this to be offensive in and of itself. For instance if a person was a guy, then had an operation and think that is all it takes to be a female. I have to wonder why people go along with that. A man is a man, a woman is a woman. No matter if you dislike it, no matter if you want with every fiber of your being to be the other sex, you are not.

I don't condone Valve's actions if that happened. I think 3 Million is way too much for this. I know some won't agree with you, but i'm thinking logically not with emotion. I'm a guy, simple I might want to be something different and having surgery does not make it so because I think it is more than just cutting here and slicing there to become the opposite sex. So if I know a guy was one a guy and he then has this done or vice versa I'm still going to refer to him as a guy. Regardless of what he or anyone thinks, logically he is still a guy or girl depending on the original sex.

Vaross · May 2016

Please keep this thread on topic. Discuss the article and avoid getting derailed into discussions of ethics and matters unrelated to the topic of the article the thread is about.

Graey · May 2016

Yaevindusk said:

Wonder if this is the whole story and if there is any context.
Though anyone who refers to another human being as "it" -- whether it is true in this case or not -- seriously needs to not be in a position of authority over other human beings. They are supposed to provide a safe and productive work environment, inspiring confidence in their workers.

If there is any truth to her being let go for what was described, I'd say she's entitled to loss of wages as being targeted and losing your job because someone can't accept who you are is appalling . Though when it comes to seeking any type of emotional damages, then she needs to get thicker skin to work in an entertainment / community service. The "it" comment just cements that she was working in a hostile environment and lends credence to her assertions. The law shouldn't care if your feelings were hurt.

With that said, the abuse that transgender people go through is absolutely ludicrous. It's unnerving when you get to know a transgender person of what frequently happens. What you personally see, even if they won't go into details. Personally, one of my ex's was a transgender woman, so I know at least some of the trials and tribulations that she went through.

I respect your post. Let me say that first. I would also say abuse of any kind should not be warranted. Granted the transgender thing I think is a touchy subject. Hell people are finally kinda almost getting over inte race couples. Now it is being gay, that is going to take some time as well. Transgender personally I don't believe in it, however let me add this. Granted I understand that a person can have surgery, and a person might think and believe they are the opposite sex. They are not, they never will be regardless of how much they try and pretend, surgery only handles some of the problem and I'm not sure that even handles the problem just covers it up. Then you ask that other people accept that you are this way. Okay, I'll accept to an extent. If you want to augment, change etc. I respect that. I won't go out of my way to treat you any differently. What I won't do is pretend a guy that had a sex change is now a woman. That to me is a slap in the face to other women. To say that is all it takes (sure is takes more than that, surgery, medications, therapy, etc) however that does not change the fact that a man is a man, a woman is a woman. If Joe gets a sex change and now wants to be called Jane. Sure I'll humor him in certain situations, but more than often not. Simply because he is not a woman. Simple. Now in regards to the lawsuit, like I stated above I think 3 Mil is a bit too much, but yes damages are owed if applicable.

Interesting post however.

VorpalChicken28 · May 2016

Just lock this topic before it spirals out of control, after reading some of the obvious bigot's comments on this thread it makes me pretty sad that such intolerance exists, most have no clue as to what happened, any form of discrimination in the workplace is wrong, way wrong.

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Graey · May 2016

blueturtle13 said:

Remember when forums were free and open to express ourselves? Yeah, me too.

I do everything was new then. People were unsure of what could and could not be said. Generally the manners you had at home was what transferred online. Not so much now. However it is an interesting conversation and I don't see why we can't have it as adults. Also as a poster stated above yes workplace or any form of discrimination is wrong.

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