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The Hero Shooter to Beat - Overwatch Review
SBFord
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The Hero Shooter to Beat - Overwatch Review
Overwatch feels like a sort of natural evolution of the Team Fortress formula. Blizzard’s taken the basic idea of Team Fortress 2 and managed to modernize it with gameplay elements from the MOBA genre. It’s a hard locked six vs. six affair and there are way more characters (21, to be exact), but they’re ultimately pretty similar games with similar game modes.
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Erm...WoW? No content for 12 month?
"Silliness"...looks silly, sounds silly, artstyle is silly everything is just silly.
In particularly, it is a game for young players who ingest too much sugar and are constantly moving.
The ultimates aren't even really a completely foreign idea because, as I've mentioned in another thread, Valve experimented with this a decade ago in the form of the Medic's invulnerability/kritzkrieg.
The flavors of the characters aren't new... TF2 has been doing that for years with shorts starring one or more of the character classes in their game.
This is a good game that's being hyped as an incredible game due to brand recognition. It's polished and fun, but so is Warhammer: Vermintide, yet I don't see articles here at MMORPG hyping it as being the "hero-based co-op game to beat".
The comparison between L4D and Vermintide is almost identical to the one with TF2 and Overwatch (down to the developer borrowing heavily from a Valve title, in fact), as Vermintide took the L4D formula and altered it ever so slightly by using Warhammer characters and giving them each unique weapons (instead of having every character play identically as in L4D). Yet whereas Vermintide was consistently decked points for being so copy/paste from Valve's unique zombie foray, folks seem to merely pay lip service to how much Overwatch uses Valve's class-based shooter unapologetically and with very little evolution to account for 10 years of progress (or its lack of content, having only an online-only component as well- TF2 even does the player vs. AI thing better, see TF2's Mann vs. Machine).
In the end, I'm sure I'll be accused of simply hating on Blizzard. But that's the thing: I think Overwatch is a good game. I don't dislike the game, nor do I wish ill will on Blizzard as I've enjoyed many hours with their games. It's just not as groundbreakingly awesome as Blizzard fans would have you believe. From this gamers perspective, it fails in just as many ways to take advantage of a stagnant genre (with only one entry of note over the past ten years) as it succeeds in blending the most common MOBA tropes with a hero shooter.
No, some of the assets of titan was used here, like character design and tools related to it, arts asset, small portions of maps from titan, it is not the whole titan.
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10 years of evolution, and Blizzard just did it better than anyone else.
Not saying you are wrong, just saying it is a topic of interest for me (nothing to do with this forum) and I can't seem to find any information about it.
Again, to reiterate I am in no way attacking you just asking for information.
If you want a new idea, go read an old book.
In order to be insulted, I must first value your opinion.
Yeah Overwatch feels waaaaay better than TF2 especially when you get a good group together. As far as MOBA elements, several Overwatch maps are basically lane pushes with out the creeps. Love them. Nothing better than when the enemy team sets up a good defense and your team adapts with a few hero changes and goes in for the kill. Push the objective, enemy team adapts to your push, sets up a new defense, comes in with new hereos...!! You whip out a couple heroics ooooooooo Rinse repeat let the best team win!!!! ARRRRRGGGHHH LET ME PLAY I'M AT WORK FOR THE NEXT 12 HOURS
Here's part one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jq-HwvYjLLg
EDIT- @Vrika, take a look at the TF2 steam charts. In May (Overwatch's release month), TF2 lost a whopping 3.17% of its total average players. It's actually gained a percent of those players back in the last 30 days (which would, oddly enough, include Overwatch's first week). The title lost more players leading up to Overwatch's release than it has since, indicating it isn't replacing TF2 for the vast majority of folks who were fans of the genre before Overwatch's release. Not even sure what you mean by "anyone else," as I don't know of another AAA hero shooter released between TF2 and Overwatch (though they may exist).
I feel this is a stupid argument, and is only levied by people that think they are "too mature" to play games that have a bit of cartoonish art style. My brother gave me the same excuse, and my response was "so even if the game play ended up being the most fun you have had in years, you still won't try the game because of superficial aesthetic preferences?" which is answered with at short "yes". Pig headed approach, and of course his current favorite game right now is "The Division", a game with such a repetitive and uninteresting setting for an MMO, that I couldn't keep playing past level 10...
But I guess people are entitled to their opinion. I just think you should not take yourselves so seriously, your still just nerd gamers like the rest of us, despite what you tell yourselves.
I've seen a number of threads elsewhere, and even a youtube video about LoL being more affected by Overwatch than anything else. Seems OW could be picking up more LoL players...which really sucks imo.
From my perspective (and having read what folks here seem to like about OW), it seems the vast majority of Overwatch buyers are either casual MOBA/FPS players who like that they don't have to fool with "laning phases" or being completely dominated by hardcore gamers (as the abilities in OW help a more casual player feel useful even in the face of more hardcore players). I don't fault anyone for enjoying either of these aspects, as they alleviate a lot of the timesink required to feel like you're contributing to your team.
dont get me wrong this game might be great but a 9 is too high for a game that doesnt even have any progress in it and no "new" features that wasnt already in other games.
Its just select hero, play a battle, get cosmetics as reward and repeat.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Except that $40 for a shooter with no story mode seems like a little much.
It's a very objective-oriented game: escort item Y from point A to point B... protect area X while group accomplishes goal Z, etc. It just isn't deathmatch centric. Having said that, WoW's battlegrounds (especially the recent ones) are also designed in this same manner, and quickly grow incredibly stale.