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Heroic Fan Memorialized In Game For Act of Bravery

ShelassaShelassa MMORPG.COM Staff UncommonPosts: 616

imageHeroic Fan Memorialized In Game For Act of Bravery

A Chinese fan looking forward to the release of Overwatch was sadly killed during an altercation with a criminal the night before the game release. Wu Hongyu witnessed the theft of a classmate's motorcycle and chased the perpetrator on his own. The two crushed and sadly Hongyu died from his injuries.

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  • Ken1801Ken1801 Member UncommonPosts: 6
    "Heroes never die"

    That caption is absolutely perfect for this.
  • donger56donger56 Member RarePosts: 443
    Sounds like some guy who saw way too many action movies to me. Risking your life to chase a guy who stole a bike seems foolish, not heroic to me. If he charged some terrorist firing and AK-47 into a crowd or something that would be one thing, but this guy got himself killed over a bike. If you wanted to honor a hero, I'm sure you could find someone better than this. Oh well, he was a fan of Overwatch though, so this makes for good PR I guess. Seems rather self serving to me.
  • DeltoisDeltois Member UncommonPosts: 384
    Really, he tried to be a good citizen and you call it foolish. No one plans to die , but I say yes he s a hero, unlike you who would probably just let it happen by the sounds of things.
  • donger56donger56 Member RarePosts: 443

    Deltois said:

    Really, he tried to be a good citizen and you call it foolish. No one plans to die , but I say yes he s a hero, unlike you who would probably just let it happen by the sounds of things.



    Absolutely I would let it happen. I don't care about a stupid bike. If the guy got some kid killed by chasing someone on a stolen bike he would be going to prison. Even the police don't chase stolen vehicles many time because it causes a danger to everyone on the road. Sometimes you need to stop and think rather than act out of emotion. Firemen don't run into burning buildings to save your couch right? Don't be a moron. This is just a publicity gimmick and nothing more.
  • VrikaVrika Member LegendaryPosts: 7,973
    edited July 2016

    donger56 said:

    Sounds like some guy who saw way too many action movies to me. Risking your life to chase a guy who stole a bike seems foolish, not heroic to me. If he charged some terrorist firing and AK-47 into a crowd or something that would be one thing, but this guy got himself killed over a bike..


    I agree with this.

    If we elevate people who try to stop a motorbike to heroes, then we'll just teach the next idiot to emulate his behavior and there will be more lives lost for no good reason.
     
  • DeltoisDeltois Member UncommonPosts: 384

    Yep you just answered society these days, who cares about anyone else, pathetic.

    Publicity gimmick , lol, conspiracy theorist or something. Don t be such a self serving ass, and feel for the guy who died, not arguing that you think big bad Blizz is doing it all for them. Grow up.

  • SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129
    edited July 2016
    donger56 said:

    Deltois said:

    Really, he tried to be a good citizen and you call it foolish. No one plans to die , but I say yes he s a hero, unlike you who would probably just let it happen by the sounds of things.


    Absolutely I would let it happen. I don't care about a stupid bike. If the guy got some kid killed by chasing someone on a stolen bike he would be going to prison. Even the police don't chase stolen vehicles many time because it causes a danger to everyone on the road. Sometimes you need to stop and think rather than act out of emotion. Firemen don't run into burning buildings to save your couch right? Don't be a moron. This is just a publicity gimmick and nothing more.
    Regardless of what it was that the student was chasing down, I am quite sure he acted as he did for all the right reasons. I'm sure he would, if he could, agree that a motorbike wasn't worth dying for, but that's not the point of his being called a hero.

    "So shines a good deed in a weary world."

    We have become so immune to helping others because of the "danger to everyone" that might be presented and it is why the violence in the world has spiraled so deeply out of control. Heroism isn't limited to throwing oneself atop a grenade or leaping in the way of a machine-gun wielding terrorist. The small acts count just as much.

    In the US, the criminal would be charged with further crimes as a result of this person's death -- "injury or death in the commission of a crime". I hope the same is true in China.


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  • Harbinger1975Harbinger1975 Member UncommonPosts: 244

    Vrika said:



    donger56 said:


    Sounds like some guy who saw way too many action movies to me. Risking your life to chase a guy who stole a bike seems foolish, not heroic to me. If he charged some terrorist firing and AK-47 into a crowd or something that would be one thing, but this guy got himself killed over a bike..




    I agree with this.



    If we elevate people who try to stop a motorbike to heroes, then we'll just teach the next idiot to emulate his behavior and there will be more lives lost for no good reason.



    In the words of Dhalsim:

    -If good men do nothing, that is evil enough. (Street FIghter movie)

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  • SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129
    Vrika said:
    donger56 said:

    Sounds like some guy who saw way too many action movies to me. Risking your life to chase a guy who stole a bike seems foolish, not heroic to me. If he charged some terrorist firing and AK-47 into a crowd or something that would be one thing, but this guy got himself killed over a bike..

    I agree with this.

    If we elevate people who try to stop a motorbike to heroes, then we'll just teach the next idiot to emulate his behavior and there will be more lives lost for no good reason.

    In the words of Dhalsim:

    -If good men do nothing, that is evil enough. (Street FIghter movie)
    A lovely spin on: The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.  ~ Edmund Burke


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  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 12,342
    edited July 2016
    donger56 said:
    Absolutely I would let it happen. I don't care about a stupid bike. If the guy got some kid killed by chasing someone on a stolen bike he would be going to prison. Even the police don't chase stolen vehicles many time because it causes a danger to everyone on the road. Sometimes you need to stop and think rather than act out of emotion. Firemen don't run into burning buildings to save your couch right? Don't be a moron. This is just a publicity gimmick and nothing more.
    So you find charging an aggressor armed with automatic rifle fine and thought out but chasing a bike stupid...?

    That is the point about heroism, it isn't a matter of calculation what is there to lose or gain - it is about caring and ability to act. That is nothing inheritedly stupid as you put it.
  • DakeruDakeru Member EpicPosts: 3,802
    I also have to agree with @donger56 , he risked and lost his life for a motorbike by chasing a thief.
    Not only did he endanger himself but also others by doing some Hollywood kind of chase in China's crowded streets.
    Sorry but that simply isn't heroic.
    Harbinger of Fools
  • goboygogoboygo Member RarePosts: 2,141
    donger56 said:
    Sounds like some guy who saw way too many action movies to me. Risking your life to chase a guy who stole a bike seems foolish, not heroic to me. If he charged some terrorist firing and AK-47 into a crowd or something that would be one thing, but this guy got himself killed over a bike. If you wanted to honor a hero, I'm sure you could find someone better than this. Oh well, he was a fan of Overwatch though, so this makes for good PR I guess. Seems rather self serving to me.


    Man you just don't get it........at all.   Its not about the freaking value you of a BIKE and if its worth it.  Do you realize a person like this taking action over something as simple as a stolen bike is the same type of person that takes action PERIOD!

    We need more people like this and your all wrapped up in, man its just a bike it wasn't a terrorist with an AK47 why make a big deal about it, now its just a PR thing..  That guy is the SAME guy that does stop a guy with an AK47 in the office when everyone else is pissing themselves under their desk and I'm sure that's where you would be, under the desk, but also the first one talking to the news reporter later if you LIVED.

    Pull your head out of the bubble you live in and show a little respect for someone who died doing the right thing.....helping someone else.  One day you might need help badly, and everyone is too busy or scared to get involved, you might look at life differently.

    I see a couple of completely self centered responses to this post and it sickens me.  You have to evaluate it its "worth" your time to help someone or get involved.  Totally selfish.


  • SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129
    edited July 2016
    Eadan1 said:
    SBFord said:
    A lovely spin on: The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.  ~ Edmund Burke
    [mod edit]
    Considering Burke preceded Hitler by 200 years, factually you're wrong. 

    The fact you even wrote what you did is...mind boggling. Just....wow.

    How terribly sad that a tragic death in service to others is being both ridiculed and dismissed.
    Post edited by Vaross on


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  • DakeruDakeru Member EpicPosts: 3,802
    I'm at work and asked around..
    Everyone said the same:
    A heroic and brave act is trying to stop someone from beating someone else up and similar.

    No one feels that riding a motorbike like a madman, risking the lives of people on the streets and ultimately getting yourself and the thief killed is a heroic act.
    Harbinger of Fools
  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 12,342
    Dakeru said:
    I'm at work and asked around..
    Everyone said the same:
    A heroic and brave act is trying to stop someone from beating someone else up and similar.

    No one feels that riding a motorbike like a madman, risking the lives of people on the streets and ultimately getting yourself and the thief killed is a heroic act.
    Pretty sad, isn't it?
  • DakeruDakeru Member EpicPosts: 3,802
    Gdemami said:
    Dakeru said:
    I'm at work and asked around..
    Everyone said the same:
    A heroic and brave act is trying to stop someone from beating someone else up and similar.

    No one feels that riding a motorbike like a madman, risking the lives of people on the streets and ultimately getting yourself and the thief killed is a heroic act.
    Pretty sad, isn't it?
    Sad that a gaming company labels him as hero so other kids will toss away their lives too, indeed.
    Harbinger of Fools
  • SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129
    Dakeru said:
    I'm at work and asked around..
    Everyone said the same:
    A heroic and brave act is trying to stop someone from beating someone else up and similar.

    No one feels that riding a motorbike like a madman, risking the lives of people on the streets and ultimately getting yourself and the thief killed is a heroic act.
    Once again missing the point that it is not the bike that matters, it is the act of service to fellow human beings. It is, as @goboygo said, the fact that this individual is the sort of person we need in this world, the one guy who would perform an act of great heroism in anyone's book. Stopping to consider all the possible repercussions of an act means that nothing gets done, a sad and terrible condition that has rendered the world a more dangerous place.


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  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 12,342
    edited July 2016
    Dakeru said:
    Sad that a gaming company labels him as hero so other kids will toss away their lives too, indeed.
    Yep, it is better to close eyes and do nothing...
    SBFord said:
    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.  ~ Edmund Burke
  • DakeruDakeru Member EpicPosts: 3,802
    SBFord said:
    Dakeru said:
    I'm at work and asked around..
    Everyone said the same:
    A heroic and brave act is trying to stop someone from beating someone else up and similar.

    No one feels that riding a motorbike like a madman, risking the lives of people on the streets and ultimately getting yourself and the thief killed is a heroic act.
    Once again missing the point that it is not the bike that matters, it is the act of service to fellow human beings. It is, as @goboygo said, the fact that this individual is the sort of person we need in this world, the one guy who would perform an act of great heroism in anyone's book. Stopping to consider all the possible repercussions of an act means that nothing gets done, a sad and terrible condition that has rendered the world a more dangerous place.
    No Suzy the point is that he ended up killing someone for stealing a bike.
    Death sentence for theft is way over the top and we can be grateful that he didn't get more people killed.

    It's totally different whether you protect someone or if you go on some kind of Mad Max ride for revenge.
    Harbinger of Fools
  • SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129
    edited July 2016
    Dakeru said:
    SBFord said:
    Dakeru said:
    I'm at work and asked around..
    Everyone said the same:
    A heroic and brave act is trying to stop someone from beating someone else up and similar.

    No one feels that riding a motorbike like a madman, risking the lives of people on the streets and ultimately getting yourself and the thief killed is a heroic act.
    Once again missing the point that it is not the bike that matters, it is the act of service to fellow human beings. It is, as @goboygo said, the fact that this individual is the sort of person we need in this world, the one guy who would perform an act of great heroism in anyone's book. Stopping to consider all the possible repercussions of an act means that nothing gets done, a sad and terrible condition that has rendered the world a more dangerous place.
    No Suzy the point is that he ended up killing someone for stealing a bike.
    Death sentence for theft is way over the top and we can be grateful that he didn't get more people killed.

    It's totally different whether you protect someone or if you go on some kind of Mad Max ride for revenge.
    HE died. The thief was caught by police. He didn't do it 'for revenge' but because someone did something wrong. 


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  • DakeruDakeru Member EpicPosts: 3,802
    Good, then I take that back.
    But I still find it wreckless to do a bike chase in the streets of China.
    Harbinger of Fools
  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 12,342
    Dakeru said:
    No Suzy the point is that he ended up killing someone for stealing a bike.
    Death sentence for theft is way over the top and we can be grateful that he didn't get more people killed.

    It's totally different whether you protect someone or if you go on some kind of Mad Max ride for revenge.
    You are missing the point.

    Even if you do the right thing, things can go wrong but if you will only think about things that can go wrong, you will never do anything.


    You never know how things will turn out, how seemingly harmless situation might escalate into something that could not be stopped later and it is the essense of heroism - to act instead of thinking whether the cause is worthy.
  • SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129
    DMKano said:
    Dakeru said:
    Good, then I take that back.
    But I still find it wreckless to do a bike chase in the streets of China.

    In USA chasing anyone with a motorbike - especially above the speed limits is illegal and considered public endangerment.

    Not sure what the laws are in China but let's say that the chase resulted in innocent people getting hurt - would he still be a hero?


    Moot point since that's not what happened.


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  • brihtwulfbrihtwulf Member UncommonPosts: 975
    I am all for calling attention to someone who is a REAL hero, but not someone who got himself killed driving recklessly on a motorcycle chasing down someone who stole his friend's motorcycle. If he was driving safely, he wouldn't have gotten in a fatal accident. It wasn't heroic. It was stupid.

    If someone steals your friend's wallet at gunpoint and you, unarmed, go chasing after them only to be shot and killed by the guy, would you be a hero? No, you'd be stupid. A loss of life is always sad for those it affects, but you can't go around calling everyone who tries to get their friend's stolen things back a hero. You're a hero if you save a life, not a damn MOTORCYCLE!

    "I saw that my friend's motorcycle was on the train tracks, and a train was coming. I pushed the bike out of the way and got hit by the train, so now I'm a HERO!"

    That's just as dumb.

    Also, DMKano makes a valid point. It isn't moot, because in this country we would NOT call him a hero. You can't drive recklessly because someone stole something of yours. You endanger others, as this guy almost certainly did. You can't engage in a high speed chase just because you feel wronged. No others paid with their lives, but he paid with his own for his poor decision. Sad, but not heroic by any means.
  • CendhariaCendharia Member UncommonPosts: 319
    Sometimes its best to allow law enforcement to do what's needed.  Causing someone's death because you decided to be a vigilante..isn't something I'd want to live with for the rest of my life.
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