I like the fact people are outside exercising enjoying something but Pokemon? Why does it have to be this? Not sure what is more exciting this or waiting for a Kickstarter game to actually release.
I agree in that Pokemon isn't my thing either but I can see a dev using the GPS features for a more classic fantasy style MMO where places like public parks are contested territory ect ect. I just think its a really cool idea to be taking the game outside and meeting people in your local areas who are also playing the game.
@OP, Today is Thursday. I predict Thursday will be a thing. Dude, it is already a thing.
There are already Phones with bad ass graphics cards and processors? Huge amounts of ram and power to supply all this while away from your charger? No, think bigger its not a thing yet but its around the corner...
Edit* People are going to be demanding more pretty and more resource intense phone games and this will bring about the gaming phones... How will they do it I don't know but if the people demand it, they'll build it and take your money...
No, you are taking something smaller than trivial and making the big prediction out of it. You apparently are engaging in attention seeking behavior or consider this a big achievement. You could do this thread without patting yourself on the back if talking about the subject was important than your prediction.
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Pokemon Go is big. Like, really big. New data is emerging that reveals the game is not just catching on, it’s catching on more than dating, chatting with celebrities, and even Game of Thrones. It’s hard to get across just how huge this phenomenon is, so here are four essential graphs that will hopefully put it into perspective
I'm talking about the idea of mobile gaming becoming a huge part of the gaming market now that Pokemon GO has entered the building. As future games are made for mobile devices better graphics and more resource intensive games will be developed. We might see some monster sized gaming phones or we might see some backpacks filled with hardware and solar recharging capabilities that plug into your exsisting phone. No idea what they'll come up with but I think Pokemon Go has shown us there is a huge market for mobile GPS based gaming.
If there was a fantasy classic style game I could play on one I would...
backpacks filled with hardware and solar recharging capabilities that plug into your exsisting phone.
Solar powered charging backpacks have already existed for sometime, as have multiple accessories you can hook up to existing phones that would fit into said backpack.
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backpacks filled with hardware and solar recharging capabilities that plug into your exsisting phone.
Solar powered charging backpacks have already existed for sometime, as have multiple accessories you can hook up to existing phones that would fit into said backpack.
yes they have solar chargers for laptops, And I'm sure they have them for cell phones too. What they don't have are external CPU/GPU devices that boost your phone to run intense graphics for the mobile games of the future
Hey maybe someday all these components will be small enough to fit into your "Gaming Phone"
backpacks filled with hardware and solar recharging capabilities that plug into your exsisting phone.
Solar powered charging backpacks have already existed for sometime, as have multiple accessories you can hook up to existing phones that would fit into said backpack.
yes they have solar chargers for laptops, And I'm sure they have them for cell phones too. What they don't have are external CPU/GPU devices that boost your phone to run intense graphics for the mobile games of the future
Hey maybe someday all these components will be small enough to fit into your "Gaming Phone"
And things like that are unnecessary. It's what larger tablets and laptops are for. Or just get an nvidia shield. Reinventing the wheel so you can stare at increasingly smaller screen sizes doesn't really make sense, as once a phone reaches a certain size, it's pointless to carry it as a phone anymore 'cause it would be too heavy/bulky/etc. to bother with.
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backpacks filled with hardware and solar recharging capabilities that plug into your exsisting phone.
Solar powered charging backpacks have already existed for sometime, as have multiple accessories you can hook up to existing phones that would fit into said backpack.
yes they have solar chargers for laptops, And I'm sure they have them for cell phones too. What they don't have are external CPU/GPU devices that boost your phone to run intense graphics for the mobile games of the future
Hey maybe someday all these components will be small enough to fit into your "Gaming Phone"
And things like that are unnecessary. It's what larger tablets and laptops are for. Or just get an nvidia shield. Reinventing the wheel so you can stare at increasingly smaller screen sizes doesn't really make sense, as once a phone reaches a certain size, it's pointless to carry it as a phone anymore 'cause it would be too heavy/bulky/etc. to bother with.
It might make a difference in mobile gaming where the gamer walks 10+ miles a day...
backpacks filled with hardware and solar recharging capabilities that plug into your exsisting phone.
Solar powered charging backpacks have already existed for sometime, as have multiple accessories you can hook up to existing phones that would fit into said backpack.
yes they have solar chargers for laptops, And I'm sure they have them for cell phones too. What they don't have are external CPU/GPU devices that boost your phone to run intense graphics for the mobile games of the future
Hey maybe someday all these components will be small enough to fit into your "Gaming Phone"
And things like that are unnecessary. It's what larger tablets and laptops are for. Or just get an nvidia shield. Reinventing the wheel so you can stare at increasingly smaller screen sizes doesn't really make sense, as once a phone reaches a certain size, it's pointless to carry it as a phone anymore 'cause it would be too heavy/bulky/etc. to bother with.
It might make a difference in mobile gaming where the gamer walks 10+ miles a day...
It would take a number of hours to walk 10 miles, and while doing so, it makes more sense that you'd be paying attention to where you're going, rather than having your nose so close to your tiny screen to prevent glare from the sun to make even trying to play anything worthwhile. So no, it would make no difference, as your attention would and should be on your surroundings.
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backpacks filled with hardware and solar recharging capabilities that plug into your exsisting phone.
Solar powered charging backpacks have already existed for sometime, as have multiple accessories you can hook up to existing phones that would fit into said backpack.
yes they have solar chargers for laptops, And I'm sure they have them for cell phones too. What they don't have are external CPU/GPU devices that boost your phone to run intense graphics for the mobile games of the future
Hey maybe someday all these components will be small enough to fit into your "Gaming Phone"
And things like that are unnecessary. It's what larger tablets and laptops are for. Or just get an nvidia shield. Reinventing the wheel so you can stare at increasingly smaller screen sizes doesn't really make sense, as once a phone reaches a certain size, it's pointless to carry it as a phone anymore 'cause it would be too heavy/bulky/etc. to bother with.
It might make a difference in mobile gaming where the gamer walks 10+ miles a day...
It would take a number of hours to walk 10 miles, and while doing so, it makes more sense that you'd be paying attention to where you're going, rather than having your nose so close to your tiny screen to prevent glare from the sun to make even trying to play anything worthwhile. So no, it would make no difference, as your attention would and should be on your surroundings.
ha ha ha,,, it does make a difference. I'd rather hold a phone with my hardware in my back pack being supported by my shoulders than holding a laptop out in front of me while walking around town.
Thanks for being my "surroundings police" though glad someones watching out for me, ha ha ha...
This game has a VERY short life expectancy apparently class action lawsuits are already being filed by private property owners that consider pokemon on their private property without their consent a property violation. Hell I'm considering joining neighborhood kids have destroyed my flower beds chasing these damn things.
I read about a guy who has some pokemon gym(?) on his yard, not far from a school. Kids have already ruined everything there and he has to collect a ton of empty soda cans and other waste every day after coming home from work.
In many countries there are also laws in place that under certain circumstances enable intruders on your property to sue you if something happens to them. Cases like somebody jumping over the fence getting mauled by a dog on the property. Imagine some kid wants to catch a pokemon in your yard while you are at work and then drowns in your pond. Even worse since the kids now start to go out at nighttime in order to catch better pokemons. In some countries accidents like these can grant you a lifetime in jail if the investigation reveals that just one of your gate's padlock was lose.
There'll be alot of ramifications coming that nobody can yet foresee. I hope the game comes with a huge disclaimer to remind people to act responsible.
I'm sure many people will soon be going into this mode:
This game has a VERY short life expectancy apparently class action lawsuits are already being filed by private property owners that consider pokemon on their private property without their consent a property violation. Hell I'm considering joining neighborhood kids have destroyed my flower beds chasing these damn things.
I read about a guy who has some pokemon gym(?) on his yard, not far from a school. Kids have already ruined everything there and he has to collect a ton of empty soda cans and other waste every day after coming home from work.
In many countries there are also laws in place that under certain circumstances enable intruders on your property to sue you if something happens to them. Cases like somebody jumping over the fence getting mauled by a dog on the property. Imagine some kid wants to catch a pokemon in your yard while you are at work and then drowns in your pond. Even worse since the kids now start to go out at nighttime in order to catch better pokemons. In some countries accidents like these can grant you a lifetime in jail if the investigation reveals that just one of your gate's padlock was lose.
There'll be alot of ramifications coming that nobody can yet foresee. I hope the game comes with a huge disclaimer to remind people to act responsible.
I'm sure many people will soon be going into this mode:
Maybe the home owner needs to file a bug report, lol...
I don't really see 'gaming phones' (i.e. with extra joysticks and buttons) becoming a thing, as by their very nature acts like capturing pokemon in the wild need to remain simple, but I can definitely see bigger batteries, battery packs, accessories (eye-wear, watches, etc.), and maybe even 'rugged' phones becoming more of a thing.
Also, pokemon has a pretty big brand name, and somewhat universal appeal, so it's not too surprising that it's proving popular, but it's hard to see much else (i.e. some random no name fantasy AR game) getting to the point that you would see teams of 'role-players' roaming the streets looking to take on a raid boss / PvP... the world is a strange place though, and only getting stranger
backpacks filled with hardware and solar recharging capabilities that plug into your exsisting phone.
Solar powered charging backpacks have already existed for sometime, as have multiple accessories you can hook up to existing phones that would fit into said backpack.
I'd say the "gaming phone" started in July 2008, when Apple opened their iPhone up to developers and introduced the App Store.
Since then, we've been assaulted by Angry Birds, Clash of Clans, Candy Crush Saga, and now Pokemon Go.
Mobile gaming (which I say is both phone and tablet) has been here for a long time, that's not really anything new. What's new with Pokemon Go is the AR aspect, and it's the biggest game I can think of that is using the real physical world as part of the gamespace.
There are some predictions that Pokemon Go may spur on the wearables market, which hasn't really taken off yet past Fitbit and other passive monitors of the like. That remains to be seen.
Mobile Gaming (mobile phones + tablets) has been around for ages. Hardware manufacturers are constantly improving the specs of their phones so that gaming can be a thing. This "revolution" has already happened, its already here, its already a ridiculously massive business market.
So, gaming phones? We basically already have them. What else do we need the processing power and graphics for? Writing word documents? Watching netflix? I don't think so. It's already about gaming.
As for GPS gaming and Augmented Reality? Can't see it taking off. Augmented Reality is cool, but you can't have serious games on phones. You need headsets / glasses with it built in, otherwise its just a shitty gimmick. Then there is GPS accuracy issues.
With Pokemon, the accuracy doesn't matter because you're given a large radius in which to find your pokemon. With more serious games, accuracy matters but we won't get it. The GPS that is available to the public is only accurate up to 3m, usually slightly less accurate. If you leave your phone stationary for a long time, it will eventually get more accurate but if you're playing AR games, you don't want to be stationary. So, any games that rely on GPS for actual gameplay (such as tennis, shooters or whatever) would fail. (I know this from personal experience, we built an augmented reality app for property developers so they could view their properties on site, could walk through the front door, look out the windows etc. Was great, but houses / extensions constantly jumped about by a few metres as GPS got things wrong).
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"Age of the gaming phone"? Mobile gaming has been a thing for a while now, so it's a little strange to imply a mobile gaming age is around the corner -- we're already in it. Sure if you define it by the period where mobile revenue is actually bigger than the next-biggest segment, maybe there's an argument there (since 2016-2017 is the predicted crossover point where mobile makes more than any other).
Koster recently wrote AR is a MMO, and it makes some good points (though I did expect a larger list of known MMO failings that were directly applicable to Pokemon Go.) The framework of calling the player the avatar (the "client") does provide some insights into the interactions we've witnessed, and the possible interactions we can imagine might happen. Granted it's super weird that he calls the company running a game a "government" -- yes, developers are essentially god-like entities who create and manipulate game worlds, but they're neither gods nor governments.
As for Pokemon Go, I've seen enough GPS-based games before it (with similarly shallow mechanics) fade away pretty fast. While Pokemon's IP and social momentum are big advantages, if the gameplay is as shallow as it seems to be then it's not going to keep many players around. I'm still a bit skeptical whether a different GPS-based game with stronger mechanics is what people want either, but I'd guess it would have better retention than Pokemon Go will have (well...if you could somehow separate Pokemon Go from the retention benefits of its IP; I'm sure a big chunk of players will play PG longer than they'd play a game with identical mechanics, purely on the strength of the IP).
"What is truly revealing is his implication that believing something to be true is the same as it being true. [continue]" -John Oliver
I saw a quote by the Niantic dude who said a Game of Thrones or Risk type game would be a dream come true with people battling for territory control.
At the same time, I can also see that these things could get out of hand with IRL contact between players inhabiting the same space during a pixel fight and having it turn to a real one.
Also...I don't know about you, but I sure as sh*t don't want to be wearing any type of headset when I'm outside! If I want to be looking at a game world, I'll do it from the comfort of my own home in front of my PC. No thank you on the headset thing. Just NO.
Eventually the "headset" will just be a thin screen you paste onto to your sunglasses' lenses.
Then and only then will I think AR is cool and totally worth it.
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Pokemon Go Is Already Bigger Than Tinder
And Twitter is next.
Full story here:http://fortune.com/2016/07/11/nintendo-pokemon-go/
These 4 Graphs Show Just How Big 'Pokemon Go' Ishttps://www.inverse.com/article/18272-4-pokemon-go-graphs-that-show-just-how-big-the-game-is
Pokemon Go is big. Like, really big. New data is emerging that reveals the game is not just catching on, it’s catching on more than dating, chatting with celebrities, and even Game of Thrones. It’s hard to get across just how huge this phenomenon is, so here are four essential graphs that will hopefully put it into perspectiveLike it or not, its huge...
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If there was a fantasy classic style game I could play on one I would...
As a game 1/10
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
Hey maybe someday all these components will be small enough to fit into your "Gaming Phone"
Thanks for being my "surroundings police" though glad someones watching out for me, ha ha ha...
In many countries there are also laws in place that under certain circumstances enable intruders on your property to sue you if something happens to them. Cases like somebody jumping over the fence getting mauled by a dog on the property. Imagine some kid wants to catch a pokemon in your yard while you are at work and then drowns in your pond. Even worse since the kids now start to go out at nighttime in order to catch better pokemons. In some countries accidents like these can grant you a lifetime in jail if the investigation reveals that just one of your gate's padlock was lose.
There'll be alot of ramifications coming that nobody can yet foresee. I hope the game comes with a huge disclaimer to remind people to act responsible.
I'm sure many people will soon be going into this mode:
Also, pokemon has a pretty big brand name, and somewhat universal appeal, so it's not too surprising that it's proving popular, but it's hard to see much else (i.e. some random no name fantasy AR game) getting to the point that you would see teams of 'role-players' roaming the streets looking to take on a raid boss / PvP... the world is a strange place though, and only getting stranger
I don't think battery power is an issue.
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Since then, we've been assaulted by Angry Birds, Clash of Clans, Candy Crush Saga, and now Pokemon Go.
Mobile gaming (which I say is both phone and tablet) has been here for a long time, that's not really anything new. What's new with Pokemon Go is the AR aspect, and it's the biggest game I can think of that is using the real physical world as part of the gamespace.
There are some predictions that Pokemon Go may spur on the wearables market, which hasn't really taken off yet past Fitbit and other passive monitors of the like. That remains to be seen.
So, gaming phones? We basically already have them. What else do we need the processing power and graphics for? Writing word documents? Watching netflix? I don't think so. It's already about gaming.
As for GPS gaming and Augmented Reality? Can't see it taking off. Augmented Reality is cool, but you can't have serious games on phones. You need headsets / glasses with it built in, otherwise its just a shitty gimmick. Then there is GPS accuracy issues.
With Pokemon, the accuracy doesn't matter because you're given a large radius in which to find your pokemon. With more serious games, accuracy matters but we won't get it. The GPS that is available to the public is only accurate up to 3m, usually slightly less accurate. If you leave your phone stationary for a long time, it will eventually get more accurate but if you're playing AR games, you don't want to be stationary. So, any games that rely on GPS for actual gameplay (such as tennis, shooters or whatever) would fail. (I know this from personal experience, we built an augmented reality app for property developers so they could view their properties on site, could walk through the front door, look out the windows etc. Was great, but houses / extensions constantly jumped about by a few metres as GPS got things wrong).
Koster recently wrote AR is a MMO, and it makes some good points (though I did expect a larger list of known MMO failings that were directly applicable to Pokemon Go.) The framework of calling the player the avatar (the "client") does provide some insights into the interactions we've witnessed, and the possible interactions we can imagine might happen. Granted it's super weird that he calls the company running a game a "government" -- yes, developers are essentially god-like entities who create and manipulate game worlds, but they're neither gods nor governments.
As for Pokemon Go, I've seen enough GPS-based games before it (with similarly shallow mechanics) fade away pretty fast. While Pokemon's IP and social momentum are big advantages, if the gameplay is as shallow as it seems to be then it's not going to keep many players around. I'm still a bit skeptical whether a different GPS-based game with stronger mechanics is what people want either, but I'd guess it would have better retention than Pokemon Go will have (well...if you could somehow separate Pokemon Go from the retention benefits of its IP; I'm sure a big chunk of players will play PG longer than they'd play a game with identical mechanics, purely on the strength of the IP).
"What is truly revealing is his implication that believing something to be true is the same as it being true. [continue]" -John Oliver
Then and only then will I think AR is cool and totally worth it.