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Hindus Call For Symmetra Skin Removal
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The skin has no lore significance to the game. So just tweak it to not be so literal. Everybody wins.
This have been a good conversation
However there's something about respect even if you don't believe that seems to be lost on folks who usually play the art card on these types of issues, in most of these cases it isn't an attempt to be "artistic" it's a matter of gross ignorance of the subject matter they're dealing with. They just think that looks cool so it will probably sell. Selling out a cherished symbol, or way of life to make a buck is not an artistic practice.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Agreed.Then again there's a new age in horizon mainly including the extremist idea of religion and rather than old teachings and scholars now those exremists have their volumes turned way on.
As an atheist i see many examples both in whole world and especially in my country that old understanding of religion is being manipulated, twisted and being turned into a monstrosity of an idea such as mass acts of ignorance and whole world is witnessing it from east to west of this planet.. Like the good old German friend said: "There is nothing more frightful than ignorance in action"
So novadays..When you talk about religion, you probably not even thinking of tolerance..
beLIEve
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Yes. We should. Religion, just as any idea, should be open to mockery and challenge. I'm sorry if your sensibilities are offended or the sensibilities of some other person but I and the rest of the world that gave up fairy tales when we were children would like to enjoy our media without the written consent of people who still believe you can cure diseases and ailments with incantations.
Blizzard should add a Jesus skin for Lucio and a Muhammad skin for Junkrat while they are at it.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Yeah I was wondering why he wasn't going nuts about SMITE since there are 7 hindu gods you can actually play (i.e. they're not even meant to be just skins, they're meant to be the Gods themselves).
Turns out he was, back in 2014:
http://www.pcgamer.com/hindu-leader-requests-removal-of-dieties-from-smite-hi-rez-declines/
Hi-Rez wasn't having any of it:
"In reply, Hi-Rez issued a statement explaining why they will not be removing the characters from the game. "SMITE includes deities inspired from a diverse and ever expanding set of pantheons including Greek, Chinese, Egyptian, and Norse," Todd Harris, Hi-Rez's COO said. "Hinduism, being one of the world's oldest, largest and most diverse traditions, also provides inspiration toward deities in our game. In fact, given Hinduism's concept of a single truth with multiple physical manifestations one could validly interpret ALL the gods within SMITE to be Hindu. And all gods outside of SMITE as well. Ponder that for a minute. Anyway, going forward SMITE will include even more deities, not fewer."
That is the difference... How you respond to it.... And i also think that this should be done if a substantial group complain about it (like with Tracer previous)... A lone man and his close friends does not cut it beyond a court letter "sorry"
This have been a good conversation
Shame on Blizzard. Or should i say shame on America? Japan has some of the best representations of deities in the Shin Megami Tensei series and nobody cries about it. I guess we have more closed minded individuals in the west that love to cry outloud like that hindu guy and the SJWs. I'm not buying OW if they make another alteration just to please dumb people who dont even play the game.
I Reject your Reality and Substitute it with My Own!
All deities are myths.......none of them are real.
Tolerence is not a virtue. By not tolering the fact a videogame use of an hindu religious icon prove that. Therefore defending just an emotional respond to an icon is not virtuous or sign of courage. It is sign of cowardice.
Kidding, of course, but really -- tolerating the abysmal behavior of people in my life in the interest of not driving myself insane...or going to jail....is the epitome of virtue.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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I think we are kind of in a transition period, where all the archaic, out of touch/date cavemen that still adhere to such savage ideologies will just fade away. As religion fades we will also see a decrease in violence world wide as well I am sure.
From User EchoPianist:
"For me personally, as a Hindu, I don't find it offensive at all. Even if they don't want to include Jesus due to religion bias, I personally like the fact that they include Hindu gods in the game. It really raises awareness for people who don't have a clue about the religion and can see some of these gods in a better light. I don't think games are insulting, it's just another form of media. If hollywood is able to churn out movies about worshipped gods all the time, I don't see why game devs can't do it without making it insulting."
You're forgetting that this is a company driven by profit. They aren't going to make money by pissing off potential customers. And no, most people aren't tolerant. If they were, you wouldn't have all this SJW and PC bullshit plaguing society today.
Muslims - 1.6 Billion or about 23% of all the people on the planet, Christians - 2.2 Billion or about 31% of all the people on Earth. Hindu - over a billion or roughly 14% of the worlds population. (my sources are bit unclear here). So with over half the humans alive believing in the top 3 religions and I don't know how many in the lesser observed religions, and you want to pontificate that we are transitioning towards none? You may want to look into that because it is no where in the same universe as true.
Having said that, I would like to see a world where people can go about their lives in harmony with each other respecting the thoughts and habits others, but as this thread has proven, people can't even speak their mind in order to defend their point of view or to have thier religion be left alone without someone condemning them and saying; because I don't think it is important, it is irrelevant or 'stupid'.
No in order to achieve what you are describing, we must first look to education. I like what you describe and I would love to see it come to fruition, but it never will. Why? Because human, that is why.
If you want a new idea, go read an old book.
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