Hindus Call For Symmetra Skin Removal

holdenhamlet · July 2016

jesteralways said:

patlefort said:

Horusra said:

jesteralways said:

Horusra said:

Hilter, Stalin, and Mao killed a higher percentage of people than any recorded religious group. I have studied history...maybe some of you should....

You are talking about history that only recorded from 1990-2000, you are ignoring history from middle age to 19th century. Well done, you made your point, that you actually know nothing about history other than what US propaganda teaches you.

Please tell me when another human group killed a higher percentage of people than those three in the 1900s....they are responsible for 154 millions deaths or 6% of the Earths population. Outside of the Black Death what 3 men presided over that kind of death in that amount of time? I will wait while you try.

Hitler was a catholic, also supported by the catholic church. Those other 2 didn't kill in the name of atheism. Seems to me you get your "facts" from conservative sites.

He actually defended holocaust through christian belief, he claimed jews were the murderer of jesus thus he was doing god's work by killing them.

Yeah, madmen will often appeal to any reasoning possible to justify their atrocities.

The flaw in your thinking is you believe getting rid of religion (which will never happen, so it's beyond stupid to even consider) would get rid of atrocities, or that there would've been fewer atrocities without religion. It wouldn't, obviously both because atrocities have happened all the time without any kind of religious connection and secondly because getting rid of one excuse for atrocities doesn't mean a madman can't just come up with some other reason to justify them.

Madmen are notoriously creative and there is no shortage of irrational reasons that can convince wayward humans to kill people.

patlefort · July 2016

Horusra said:

Stalin and Mao were atheists....

So? They didn't kill in the name of atheism, but in the name of marxism, which is a dangerous ideology like religion.

Horusra · July 2016

patlefort said:

Horusra said:

Stalin and Mao were atheists....

So? They didn't kill in the name of atheism, but in the name of marxism, which is a dangerous ideology like religion.

So your defense is any belief is a religion...then Atheist are religious by your own thinking. Communism, Democracy, Capitalism....all religions.

xmenty · July 2016

Ghagiel said:

Furthermore I am offended that he calls his religion as "hinduism" and adherents as "hindus", a name given by muslims at the oppressive muslim invasion., and later by the Brittish Empire.

Can you link where did you got that info from? First time I heard about it.

Horusra · July 2016

patlefort said:

Horusra said:

Stalin and Mao were atheists....

So? They didn't kill in the name of atheism, but in the name of marxism, which is a dangerous ideology like religion.

reading your post again...thank you. You prove the point. People kill cause they want power not because of religions...power. So long as one man can control another group through faith, politics, or money people will kill. To hate one of those over another is stupid. They are not the cause just tools.

Phaedruslives · July 2016

patlefort said:

Horusra said:

Stalin and Mao were atheists....

So? They didn't kill in the name of atheism, but in the name of marxism, which is a dangerous ideology like religion.

Agreed. We're seeing a similar dogmatic fervor in super-far-left ideologies at present. Hopefully they doesn't boil over into full-blown violence.
That said, you know that religiosity is simply a scapegoat when looking for a motive. Even ISIS is basically just a barbaric crime syndicate. It just so happens that fanaticism and conversion are among the most effective tools regarding recruitment and expansion of any political powerbase.

Nilden · July 2016

Horusra said:

patlefort said:

Horusra said:

Stalin and Mao were atheists....

So? They didn't kill in the name of atheism, but in the name of marxism, which is a dangerous ideology like religion.

So your defense is any belief is a religion...then Atheist are religious by your own thinking. Communism, Democracy, Capitalism....all religions.

Atheism is a religion like off is a TV channel.

observer · July 2016

This thread has gone way off topic.

Phaedruslives · July 2016

Nilden said:
Atheism is a religion like off is a TV channel.

It is for Steve Shives and the rest of the intersectional crew...

holdenhamlet · July 2016

patlefort said:

Horusra said:

Stalin and Mao were atheists....

So? They didn't kill in the name of atheism, but in the name of marxism, which is a dangerous ideology like religion.

Here's the thing. We'll never get rid of dangerous ideologies. People are tribal creatures that respond to group-think.

Religious pretext has been and continues to be used to coerce people into killing. But so has statism.

Does that mean we should get rid of countries?

It's a rhetorical question, because we can't get rid of them, just like we can't get rid of religion even if we wanted to.

Think about it this way- if there was no Christianity, sure maybe the crusades wouldn't have happened. But do you think it would've been a time of peace?

Of course not, there would have been wars and genocide just like there always has been in the history of the human race, with or without religion, perhaps even worse than the crusades.

The real problem is the tribal nature of humans. Religious zealotry is like a symptom of that problem.

Keep in mind the tribal nature of humans is also responsible for all of our success as we can do almost nothing on our own.

So it's a pickle. But one thing's for sure- "getting rid of religion" would solve nothing, and all this is completely disregarding the positive effects religion has.

ElRenmazuo · July 2016

jesteralways said:

FlyByKnight said:

If there was a Jesus Christ look a like running around shooting things up, there would be outrage and uproar, eventual yank of skin, and lawyer written apology from company.
NO!! Almost every animated comedy tv show is graphically satirizing Jesus weekly basis. No christian in world gives a shit about it because christians know that no human can insult Jesus no matter how they try, no power of mortals can take down a god like person. Only morons and illiterate fools who are also illiterate about their own religions, get insulted about their gods or prophets being insulted.

The real Yahushua and Israelites (Jews) are Black anyway. The Bloodline of the 12 tribes of Jacob (Israel)
They can make fun false european jesus all they want who is just the image of Caesar Borgia

Curses of Deuteronomy 28 = Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade

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Exodus 4:6-7 Moses King James Version (KJV)

6 And the Lord said furthermore unto him, Put now thine hand into thy bosom. And he put his hand into his bosom: and when he took it out, behold, his hand was leprous as snow.

7 And he said, Put thine hand into thy bosom again. And he put his hand into his bosom again; and plucked it out of his bosom, and, behold, it was turned again as his other flesh.

Ezekiel 1:13 Angels

As for the likeness of the living creatures, their appearance was like burning coals of fire, and like the appearance of lamps: it went up and down among the living creatures; and the fire was bright, and out of the fire went forth lightning.

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Theres a lot more in the Bible than this

Horusra · July 2016

observer said:

This thread has gone way off topic.

Staff on the site are not that smart if they thought this was not going to go here....

xmenty · July 2016

How stupid can you be? Learn to use your rational unbias brain. Religions did not teach human to be violent.

Here as an example, if the USA government system does not allow his citizen to rape and kill. But still some of his citizen rape and kill other human. Do you blame the USA system for this?

Nilden · July 2016

coleman11b said:

Megilindir said:

Lets keep the characters and remove religion from world..how about that

That is a great idea! Never mind that 13 of the top 20 relief organizations are or were founded as or by religious organization. Your world would have no

American Red Cross
United Way
Salvation Army
St. Jude's Children's Research Hospital
YMCA
Goodwill
Habitat for Humanity
World Vision
Compassion International
Mayo Clinic

You may hate religion, but the world would collectively groan if these organizations ceased to exist. Compassion lifts children and families out of poverty all over the world. The American Red Cross is the first responder to disasters all over the world. How many would die without their response? St. Judes is the foremost provider of cancer care to children in the world, and at no cost to the cancer patient/family. Habitat for Humanity builds homes for people of all race, religion, and creed. Mayo Clinic is one of the foremost research hospitals in the world.

Radicalized religion of any kind is certainly responsible for pain and destruction the world over. But radicalized anything is destructive(Government, Social Movements, etc.) The organizations above were all founded by religion(specifically Christians), and many more have been founded by other religions. Educate yourself before you blindly hate something. You certainly don't have to be religious, but to argue for the removal of religion is the height of ignorance.

What I see is 7 out of the top 20 are not Religious. You don't need Religion at all to be charitable or have compassion and empathy to help ones fellow man.

Nilden · July 2016

observer said:

This thread has gone way off topic.

Not really. It's about religion. If they put in a Donald Trump skin it would be about politics.

Nilden · July 2016

Phaedruslives said:

Nilden said:
Atheism is a religion like off is a TV channel.

It is for Steve Shives and the rest of the intersectional crew...

No dogma, no holy text, no place of worship, no commandments, no belief in a deity and no faith. Not seeing it.

You want to call him obsessed, go for it, but atheism is literally the lack of belief making it impossible for atheism to be a religion.

GeezerGamer · July 2016

Someone really really wants their 15 minutes of fame now

LoMaX21 · July 2016

If your religion is that strict, you shouldn't be playing video games in general...

SBFord · July 2016

Let's keep this thread to the more generic "do currently worshiped deities" (whether YOU believe in them or not) belong in games rather than the very specific and divisive "general pro- or con- religion". If not, we'll have to close it down and it's been a pretty good debate so far.

Agnhar · July 2016

I think is dumb, it might be an active religion but its not like we are spitting on her.

PottedPlant22 · July 2016

I would keep it and not acknowledge the 'complaint.' When you start changing things based on what might be perceived offensive just by its very representation, you open up a precedent. People might find violence offensive. So should Blizzard look to make the weapons the characters use less violent? Where's the line? And what gives one group's religious belief more value than the anti-violence crowd? How about Australians being offended that Junkrat and Road Hog are Australian? Or French people upset that Widow is from France?

Common sense should dictate decisions and common sense says that this is just a skin that is used with the obvious intent of being a positive, not a negative. Regardless of what one person 'perceives' to be otherwise.

Nilden · July 2016

SBFord said:

Let's keep this thread to the more generic "do currently worshiped deities" (whether YOU believe in them or not) belong in games rather than the very specific and divisive "general pro- or con- religion". If not, we'll have to close it down and it's been a pretty good debate so far.

Jesus Christ RPG
http://store.steampowered.com/app/449040/

Yes. You should be able to make a video game with any characters you want.

PottedPlant22 · July 2016

OH and here's a christian religious figure being attacked.

So sick of this reactionary political BS. It's this type of crap why we're dealing with mess we have right now in politics around the world. How about we focus on issues and offenses that actually matter and don't sweat the small stuff?

Gaendric · July 2016

The question is where do we draw the line.
If using one diety is not OK because it could offend people, then using any diety must be not OK (you never know who still believes in them).
In fact using anything that anyone could potentially believe in (thus anything and everything) is not OK and we soon can't use anything in any way because someone could potentially be offended.

This is a very dangerous slippery slope.

That said, I also wouldn't go out of my way to insult someone's beliefs, even if I personally find them nonsensical.
But I do feel it is a very dangerous path to start censoring things based on "someone might be offended". Because someone will always be offended. Plus, sooner or later the censorship will always be misused by those pushing ideologies.

Thane · July 2016

so, if the pastafarians demand for a removal of spagetti out of games, would that be a legit concern?
if not, when does a religion become "important" enough to demand those things?
and why would someone be "more right" than others, just because they are more?

isn't every human worth the same?

seriously, we should focus in gaming, not religions, or this could get out of hand quickly *G*

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